# Wikiversity:Help desk/Archive 15

## Why are these templates creating white spaces?

Any page they are used on, the layout is messed up a bit. Any ideas how to prevent this? Regards, Lesion (discusscontribs) 14:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I would recommend using a {{Sidebar}} for this. But I suspect the difference is in whether the table is right-aligned or whether it is float right-aligned. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:38, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Changing to Floatright seems to have done the trick. Many thanks, Lesion (discusscontribs) 16:46, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Wait, no it didn't work... Lesion (discusscontribs) 16:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
I think I found the problem: the noinclude see also links were somehow transcluding white space. When I removed the see also lines, the layout was corrected (see example here->). Lesion (discusscontribs) 16:51, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
It's not the noinclude, but the end of the line just above it. noinclude has to directly follow on the same line or you do get a blank line on your content. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:25, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Thanks, Lesion (discusscontribs) 21:55, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

## Another Q

When linking to a wikiversity page from wikipedia, the template {{wikiversity|WIKIVERSITYPAGE}} can be used. However, what if the page title in wikiversity is long, e.g. Oral and maxillofacial surgery/Local anesthesia/Topical anesthetics? This creates a stupid-looking template on wp imo. See e.g.: [1]. Thoughts? Lesion (discusscontribs) 13:16, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

You can add a redirect page here. For example, add a Topical anesthetics page here with a #REDIRECT to the appropriate subpage. You should check first that there are no other appropriate Topical anesthetics pages or here. If there are, create a disambiguation / menu page instead of a redirect page. See Mouse (computing) as an example of a redirect page. See Java as a disambiguation example. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:49, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
OK then I made a redirect since currently no other search results with "topical anesthetic" on wikiversity. Many thanks, Lesion (discusscontribs) 16:51, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Check out our School:Business for management resources. Please use the four ~ or click on the signature pen to end your messages. Thanks! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 02:23, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

## Two basic questions about Wikiversity

Hi,

1. What's the difference between creating learning resources here, versus Wikibooks? i.e. what kind of work should be contributed here in contrast to there?
2. Can I create a course-specific resource? i.e. can I create a page (and sub-pages) such as "X University/Calculus 101"?

Thanks, Mintz l (discusscontribs) 01:42, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Welcome Mintz!
1. One of the key differences between Wikiversity and other wikis is that Wikiversity is focused on the learning experience rather than content alone. For example, if you want to write a book, Wikibooks would be good for that. If you want to have your students write the book, that could go either here or on Wikibooks. If you want to design a series of lessons that include activities students complete as part of their learning, that's Wikiversity. Using one of my own courses as an example, take a look at Windows Server Administration. Another example would be Web Science. There are many other good examples with different styles here, but it should be relatively easy to see the difference between a course/learning project and a book.
2. While it would be possible to create a calculus resource specific to University X, I would first ask, what's different about University X calculus that wouldn't apply to anyone wanting to learn calculus? Would it be possible to either adopt and/or adapt existing calculus learning project(s), and then create any necessary subpages that would be specific to University X under that project instead? In other words, think globally by helping everyone learn calculus, and then add any specific subpages that you might want for your students, recognizing that those pages may be helpful for everyone else as well. For example, I could easily see a Calculus/University X/2015 Spring Syllabus or similar pages as being helpful to everyone but would be left unedited by others because they are specific to your program.
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:25, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Dave - To follow up on this question, how would I go about configuring a class of about 20 students so that they could all contribute to Wikiverstiy? It would obviously be on either 1 or 20 subpages of a resource, but I can't find an example of that on Wikiversity. For example Web_Science/Enroll#students has only one student. (P.S. Hello Mintz, I put a message on your user page.--guyvan52 (discusscontribs) 13:36, 9 December 2014 (UTC))
See Collaborative Learning/Examples for the examples I'm most familiar with. They each approach collaborative learning in a different way, but all are effective in terms of meeting learning outcomes and content produced. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:50, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
Ha! That is a great example. Bloomclock, for example, turned out nicely in spite of its dubious beginning. --guyvan52 (discusscontribs) 14:28, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
On an unrelated subject, I advised Mintz1 to change his/her username if he/she is not the same as the one on Wikipedia. If you know of a place to post such advice on the intro (i.e., beginner's gateway) to Wikiversity I will be glad to insert it.--guyvan52 (discusscontribs) 14:32, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
See Wikiversity:Changing username. Usernames are global now, so there shouldn't be any issues for new users. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:42, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

## Incorrect spelling

See the page below

Is there an easy way to correct modelling to modeling (one 'l')?

Regards,

Tim, Timboliu (discusscontribs) 06:48, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Technically, either modeling or modelling is appropriate. Modeling is the North American spelling, while modelling is European. I have a bot I can use to rename the pages quite easily if you wish. Fixing the links for the renamed pages is a bit more work. I was working on a bot function that would update links, but I don't think I ever tested it. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:53, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

What is the proper technique for inserting a Wikiversity image like, e.g., 40px in some Wikipedia page? Thanks. Shustov (discusscontribs) 10:03, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

The proper technique would be to upload the Wikiversity image to Commons, and then access the image as you would any other image at Wikipedia. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

You are right. I did upload my images to Commons but people there started deleting them, often under pretty funny reasons like "he (which means me - V.S.) cannot be an author because he is a professor" (?!). To save those images, I recently re-uploaded some of them to Wikiversity (see https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Category:Images_of_Wikiversity) and they work alright here, in Wikiversity pages. Actually, I can do the same in all those Wikipedia projects where my images have been inserted but it is rather tedious task. Therefore, I decided to ask smart professionals like you to suggest something good to avoid the difficulties. Thank you in advance! Shustov (discusscontribs) 20:43, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikiversity images can only be used on Wikiversity. Commons images must have a free license, which can be a complicated issue. Commons images may be used on any WMF wiki. If there is an image where the license is not free, but if it qualifies for fair use on Wikipedia, it may be uploaded to Wikipedia and used there. Commons does not host "fair use" images. But often a Commons image escapes the notice of the Commons users who check for license problems, even for years.
To be hosted here, non-free images must have a fair use rationale. Images that don't, or where proper license information has not been supplied, may be deleted here. Wikiversity users and administrators will assist you if there is a question. We don't block users simply for making mistakes, unless the mistake is made over and over. And over. --Abd (discusscontribs) 18:28, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I am just looking for your assistance (please, see my response above). Shustov (discusscontribs) 20:55, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

We are not professionals, generally. Commons can be arcane. No, there is no way to show Wikiversity images on Wikipedia. As to Commons, communicate with users there. If you don't understand, ask. Looking at Commons, I see some things I will mention on your user talk page here. Definite no-nos. --Abd (discusscontribs) 00:03, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

## nesting pages

First, I apologize if I'm posting this question in the wrong place! My navigational skills have been a little hit and miss lately. My class is building a campus-based health portal in Wikiversity, and I'm trying to make sure that I'm setting this up correctly. If we have a main portal page (https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Tarheel_Health_Portal) and my students create links to their subpages off of this main page, do they just set them up as Lactose Intolerance ? Is there a better way to nest subpages to a portal? Thanks! Sisipherr (discusscontribs) 16:45, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

The best approach is to use 'relative references'. For example, [[/Lactose Intolerance/]]. This means 'a subpage of the current page', and works even if the parent page is renamed (which I don't expect to happen, but it's just a better approach). It is much easier for students if the portal subpage links are set up this way first. Then they click on the link to create their page. That way they don't accidentally create content elsewhere that needs to be moved. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:05, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

## Rabindranath Tagore

Who is Rabindranath Tagore? Iamregistered12345 (discusscontribs) 14:43, 13 May 2015 (UTC)Iamresistered12345

Wikipedia:Rabindranath Tagore. If you are interested in studying his work or discussing any aspect of it or the Wikipedia article, there is a resource here that could be developed, Rabindranath Tagore. Feel free to discuss or study the topic there. Thanks for asking, Iam. As a result, I edited the page. --Abd (discusscontribs) 15:14, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

## Change name of page

Change name of page - please help me to change the name of "Protocolo de Investigación" to Research protocol - thanks --Proto1curso (discusscontribs) 14:20, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Done BTW you will have the ability to move pages when you are autoconfirmed. Thanks ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 14:44, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

## Deletion of image

File:229819-romance-made-easy.jpg should be deleted. The use is hardly "fair use". I am not sure how to nominate media files for deletion here on Wikiversity. — Fnielsen (discusscontribs) 10:19, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

If the identified source was the original source, it could be argued that this is fair use, as it is from a literary source being used to discuss literature, specifically romance novels, which is the subject of the source. The problem is that isn't the original source. That source purchased a stock photo, likely taken from https://www.123rf.com/stock-photo/lovers_kissing.html. This impacts fair use, as the image is for sale in this format. The image has been deleted. For future reference, you may add {{Delete}} to the file itself, or post at Wikiversity:Requests for deletion. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:37, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

<The original text of this request is available at [2] and has been removed.>

TreeTrailer (discusscontribs) 06:16, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing your concerns. However, personal attacks are not welcome at Wikiversity. All comments and concerns should focus on content rather than editors. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:42, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

## Templates

I have been stumped in trying to build up an Informal Learning Activity site because I want to code some templates to make it easier to add content and I can't find where there is information about coding and placing templates. I've spent a lot of time going to pages that tell me about various templates already available but they've got me nowhere I wanted to go. Help, please! Wnholmes (discusscontribs) 11:47, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Information on templates is available at mw:Help:Templates. But in many cases, there are either existing or better alternatives available. What, specifically, are you trying to accomplish? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:22, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much for that link; I don't how I didn't find it. The work I'm planning to do is highly repetitive. For example, I get actin (protein) by coding &nbsp;&nbsp;[[w:Actin|actin]]&nbsp;(protein) but I would prefer the simpler {{NTb|A|a|ctin|protein}} and this would also make it simpler for other people to add items. And I presume that I can put the template into the Name Trees file space. Thanks again for your help.  Wnholmes (discusscontribs) 23:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Have you seen {{Wl}}? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:02, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
I looked at it just now but it doesn't help much. I tried what I thought might work and put a template up on https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Informal_learning_activities/Template:STa and tried to use it as https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Informal_learning_activities/Small_things#A but it wouldn't even try it. It seems to imply that I have to put the template somewhere else. True? If so, where? I would appreciate your help very much if you can put up with my floundering. Wnholmes (discusscontribs) 03:08, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Preceding with Template: is only helpful when you want a template that will be shared by multiple learning projects. In this case, keeping the template with the learning project makes more sense, but must use a regular page name. Calling that page as a template is then either a full path to the page or a relative path. Since you are trying to call STa from a subpage at the same level, the syntax is {{../STa|parameters...}}. Note that excessive HTML typically isn't necessary except for very advanced templates. An * at the start of a line automatically generates a bullet and removes the need for <br>. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:26, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks muchly for the help. It seems to be working fine for me now.  Wnholmes (discusscontribs) 12:07, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

## Article creation wizard discussion

Hi all,

This proposal suggests WMF to fund the writing of an article creation wizard at Wikipedia, but with enough interest it may -- or may it not? -- be expanded to write an article creation wizards framework or library for use at non-Wikipedia wikis, such as here. If desired, please join the discussion before December 12. (I've sent this message to English wikis; I ask you to deliver it to non-English wikis, if you can. Even delivering it in English there may be better than nothing.)

• What tools do we use here, now, to make article creation easier for newbies?
• What requirements do we have for a potential implementation?
• How would you like to inform the people of the article creation perks and difficulties on this wiki?
• What else needs to be considered?

Thanks. --Gryllida 03:52, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

@Gryllida: - If this is implemented across different projects, it will need to assume that different templates would be implemented for different projects. Encyclopedia articles follow a similar approach. Wikibooks may or may not have a standard format. Wikiversity has multiple page / lesson formats, none of which has a strong backing one way or the other. Some people prefer linking to existing content for a lesson, others prefer writing their own content. However, having something that would make it clear what new pages are likely to be accepted and what new pages are likely to not be accepted / belong on a different project or don't belong at all would be helpful. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 04:09, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

## Where do I go to start debates/discussion?

Is this the place for it? (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Uncle dan is home (talkcontribs) 7 December 2016‎)

What do you mean by this? To start a debate, look through Wikidebate. But a normal discussion, you will need to look in the page you want to start the discussion and click "Add Topic" ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 23:39, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

## Marine La Pen and EU

If she won next years election in France, would France quit the EU? (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Uncle dan is home (talkcontribs) 7 December 2016‎)

This is not the appropriate venue for this type of discussion. If you need assistance with Wikiversity, please let us know. To participate in Wikidebates, see Wikidebate or contact User:Felipe Schenone. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:19, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

## Parsing errors in Inversion (discrete mathematics)

Screenshot

Since yesterday I get parsing errors for formulas in this article. E.g. $\pi$ becomes: Failed to parse (MathML with SVG or PNG fallback (recommended for modern browsers and accessibility tools): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "/mathoid/local/v1/":): \pi
When I make an empty edit the problem is solved in that browser session. Strangely it appears again when I visit the page in a different browser or in a private tab. (The rendered SVG is this, and it can be accessed from every browser.) Can anyone tell me what is wrong here?
The problem does (at least for me) not appear on other pages with the same code, like my sandbox or this template. Or this page. Test: ${\displaystyle \pi }$
Greetings, Watchduck (quack) 15:07, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't see any errors on the page. On the page menu there is a Purge option. You might try that and see if it helps. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:53, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
The purge option does not change anything. I now have the errors in different places, e.g. $ia_i$ gives: Failed to parse (MathML with SVG or PNG fallback (recommended for modern browsers and accessibility tools): Invalid response ("Math extension cannot connect to Restbase.") from server "/mathoid/local/v1/":): {\displaystyle ia_i}
But $ja_j$ right next to it is rendered. The errors appear in the same places in Firefox and Chrome, and also in the private mode of both browsers. Unlike before, making an empty edit does not help anymore. --Watchduck (quack) 17:25, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
The page is still fine for me in Chrome. There is an open Phabricator issue on this. You might add yourself to phab:T136812 and add a comment with this example. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:32, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

## Certification

Just thinking - it would ne nice to have some sort of certificates in various disciplines that would indicate a certain level of completion/competence in that area of learning. i realize that Wikiversity is NOT a degree-granting body but it would be interesting to gain some competency in the school/subjects contained on this site. --Imperoo1

See for example IT Fundamentals. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 18:24, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
See also Category:Certifications. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:06, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

## Course "Research in programming Wikidata" needs in native speakers

Dear friends! My student @Oksana Panfilova finished the article Banks. This is a part of our project "Research in programming Wikidata".

There are several other articles in this project written and finished by students of Petrozavodsk State University (Russia):

Native speakers, please, check our English in these texts. Ideas and comments related to the project are welcome! -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (discusscontribs) 20:23, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

## Institutions

Dear friends! Please, give me a link to institutions (universities from real world) presented in the Wikiversity! For example, our course was created by students of Petrozavodsk State University. What are other universities in Wikiversity? I need in this information, because I want to report about Wikiversity at Wiki conference in Moscow. -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (discusscontribs) 19:33, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Here's a few from my watchlist:

Also:

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:03, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Great! Thank you very much! -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (discusscontribs) 05:20, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
But I don't understand... Are students or teachers of these colleges and universities participated in any courses in Wikiversity? What courses? -- Andrew Krizhanovsky (discusscontribs) 05:24, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
If you search here the college or university name as stated you can put together a list of courses from each. I haven't seen a comprehensive list of their courses offered here. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 13:58, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Most of the courses offered here can be found in Category:Courses. Here's some more schools and courses:
1. National University of La Plata, Argentina - Escuela de Lenguas UNLP.
2. Ozyegin University - Fluid Mechanics for Mechanical Engineers.
3. Ohlone College - Digital Media Concepts.
4. University of North Carolina - Federal Writers' Project - Life Histories.
5. University of Canberra - Motivation and emotion. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 18:37, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

## Citoid

Edit - reposted at colloquium as more logical location 06:28, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

## Finding one's political jurisdictions

How can someone find the political entities that have jurisdiction over a particular geographic coordinate?

I'm creating a template that could eventually grow to include one article for each state or other major jurisdiction like the District of Columbia in the United States to discuss the state-level activity associated with net neutrality.

It would be useful in that regard to have an article that could help people identify where and how to register to vote and who their elected representatives and candidates in an election year for governor, attorney general and their representatives in their state legislature. For other purposes, it would help to have a central place in Wikiversity that anyone any place in the world could visit to find the school, school district and boards, municipalities, counties, states, and equivalent.

For example, in Johnson County, Kansas, jocoelection.org gives its own address (2101 East Kansas City Road, Olathe, Kansas 66061) and phone [(913) 715-6800] in the upper right. One can contact them to get information about who is eligible to vote and how to register. Clicking "Voter information" > "Voter lookup" there invites a registered voter to enter "First Name", "Last Name", and "DOB (mm/dd/yyyy)", then click "Look me up". When I have done that, it told me which district I was in for the US House of Representatives, Kansas House and Senate, and similar district information for county, municipality, school boards and water district. And how can I find this information for a particular set of geographic coordinates if I'm not a registered voter there?

Does something like this already exist? If yes, how can I find it? If no, where would you suggest this might optimally be located? I found U. S. Government/Voting Registration and Participation, which suggests that this or another article under U. S. Government might be a good home for this kind of thing for the US. I also found a Category:Government, which might seem to be appropriate for a more general discussion of this.

Suggestions? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (discusscontribs) 16:17, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

## Science

People get HIV from accidents, sex ,mother's during pregnancy and blood transfusions. But one day a teacher said "if you are bleeding then your blood gets cold and dry , and maybe you touch someone who is also bleeding with your blood . The particular person will not be HIV infected". I am confused so what really is correct????????????????????????????????????????????

Ranevinci--Ranevinci (discusscontribs) 21:22, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

You might want to start with w:Sexually transmitted infection. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 01:51, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/transmission.html may also be useful. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:41, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

## Chinese wikiversity took over the multilingual incubator?

Hello all, I tried editing today the page: [3], and got this message:

Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Forbid edits to the ZH test project (please edit https://zh.wikiversity.org/ instead).

Which is strange, since these Hebrew pages has nothing to do with the Chinese wikiversity, and my edit is a standard edit, similar to what me and my friends do on these pages for the last couple of years.

Trying to write in an administrator personal discussion page gave the same blocking, so the administrators cannot be contacted on this.

Could anyone help making the pages editable again as they used to be?
8374.620u9 (talk) 17:53, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I looked through a few things, such as the page in question and the user's talk page (on which you left your message), and it seems to me that you haven't asked at the appropriate venue. Have you tried posting your problem at WV:Request for custodian action (beta.wikiversity)? Or am I misunderstanding, from you, "Trying to write in an administrator personal discussion page gave the same blocking, so the administrators cannot be contacted on this"? I don't really understand what you are trying to say in the statement that I've quoted from you... so maybe a little bit more clarification on your part would be appreciated. Thanks. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

## Navigation subpage is not working

This template is not working specifically for this page, High School Chemistry/Atomic Structure, The Periodic Table, and Electrons or Light. What is the reason for this? It previously was "High School Chemistry/Atomic Structure, The Periodic Table, and Electrons/Light", so I believed that it had to do with the "/". But I changed the "/" to "or" and the navigation template didn't budge a bit. Help? -Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 16:40, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Update: It seems to be working fine now, thanks! ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

## DISPLAYTITLE on User:Atcovi/French/Qui je suis?

Hey. Can someone help me out here? I'm trying to add Template:Displaytitle on my French project, User:Atcovi/French/Qui je suis?, so that the title only shows "Qui je suis?". For this specific page, I'd like "Qui je suis? - Introduction" and so on. I'm trying to add it, but it just isn't working. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:59, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Done See Wikiversity:Colloquium/archives/September 2016#Hiding Title Parts. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 03:44, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

## Deletion policy

Hi,

As an avid "Random page" clicker, I came across the page Hi definition. I don't know any of the policies for deletion here (primarily being on Wikipedia and Wikiquote) but it seems to just be a test/joke page and is next to useless - does Wikiversity do requests for deletion? If so, how?

Best wishes, Gazamp (discusscontribs) 17:29, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

If you believe it is a candidate for speedy deletion you can place a {{delete}} template on it with a suggested reason. Or, if it appears to be a resource that could be improved you can use {{subst:prod}} or {{proposed deletion}}. If you believe it may be improved by positive or constructive criticism, you can write such on the Discuss page. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 18:17, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
@Gazamp: Thanks for identifying this resource. Wikiversity does have Wikiversity:Requests for Deletion, however, it tends to be used primarily for major project / policy discussions rather than for something meeting Wikiversity:Deletions criteria. In addition to the templates Marshallsumter mentioned, another option is to indicate that the learning value of the resource is already addressed by a corresponding Wikipedia entry, using {{Advise}}. Advise pages are cleaned up monthly. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:15, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you both! Gazamp (discusscontribs) 17:07, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

## Starting a new page on an OERs for language archivists

Hi everyone here, I am pretty new to Wikiversity though I've been a part of the Wikimedia movement formally since 2011. I have a question about creating a new page for an OER called OpenSpeaks. The OER deals with CC-BY 4.0-licensed toolkit on documenting languages particularly indigenous and endangered ones. I also believe that there are not many resources available on Wikiversity in the related topics. Please do advise on anything that I might be aware of apart from the guidelines that is already evident. --Psubhashish (discusscontribs) 06:40, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Be bold! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:22, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
You bet ! :) --Psubhashish (discusscontribs) 16:45, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

## Does Wikiversity accept theological research?

Does Wikiversity accept theological research (not critique by other theological research but religious interpretation of holy books)? --VictorPorton (discusscontribs) 09:14, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

It depends on the research. Some is clearly academic and extends understanding in the field. Some is fringe research that is no longer accepted in main space. Some promotes the author and is deleted. Some has no academic value and is deleted. And some has a net-negative effect on Wikiversity and is deleted. One way to identify the difference is when a user tries to use Wikiversity to legitimize and promote personal beliefs by labeling them as research. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:35, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
It is not quite "academic", it is my personal research. I cannot translate the word "fringe". Concerning promoting the author, I could remove from my theological book these parts which promote myself. In my opinion, it has academic value, as it considers an alternative (disproved by nobody) understanding of Bible. It is my personal beliefs, but this does not make it non-research (after all that the Earth is round was a personal belief of some people). So you have not clearly addressed whether a theological concept based on an interpretation of a holy book is "science" for the purposes to be allowed to be included into Wikiversity. You have recently removed my other research topic, but Wikiversity long time has my computer science research which is not going to be removed and was even a few times asked to be featured. So I have no idea whether my theological research will be accepted. I kindly ask you to look into my book (or at least the site describing the book) and check if (after removal of my personal story) it would be accepted as a Wikiversity topic. In my opinion, it should be accepted to promote collaboration in research, as well as to be freely discussed.
Different interpretations of holy books are studied in universities. Usually there are studied old, "historic" interpretations. But studying modern events is in no way less science than studying old events. So I believe my book must be accepted, because Wikiversity was created to imitate universities.
It makes sense to label the research on the Wikiversity as "arguments pro and counter to the ideas of the book End of Gospel". This would be completely scientific.
See Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Fringe theories for an explanation of fringe. Wikiversity welcomes most types of learning materials that are not encyclopedia articles, textbooks, or source texts. Please note that Wikiversity is not a place for duplication of other Wikimedia projects. The link you have provided is not within Wikiversity's scope. Please check at Wikibooks to see if they will accept this contribution. A lesson encouraging study of religion would be consistent with the Wikiversity mission, but it cannot promote the author. Arguments pro and con would need to be supported by additional resources. A single perspective is likely not sufficient. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:51, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

## new to wikiversity..,is the subject I'm working on already extant?

I'm interested in creating an outline and reference for people wishing to start a small business. My question: Is this subject already covered? Am I re-inventing the wheel? Lots of similar info under Entrepreneur

Thank You! R. Sadler tired and retired

There's Small and medium-sized enterprises. The rest is more scattered. I recommend building on the existing Small and medium-sized enterprises page. Link to the Entrepreneur resources where appropriate and add subpages for the content you wish to create beyond that. I've added a redirect for Small business so it will automatically go to the SME page. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:54, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

## Galleries

Can someone help me edit the galleries correctly on the project I am working on ? They do not render correctly at the moment. Much thanks. Coin Researcher (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Coinresearcher (talkcontribs) 22 August 2019)

See Wikipedia:Help:Gallery tag. Unfortunately, it's not quite as flexible as you might like. You'll need to decide whether you want a simple gallery, or if you want to continue defining the formatting and information more explicitly.
Also, see Wikiversity:Signature for how to sign your name with date and timestamp. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:43, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

## Atlantis Location Hypotheses

Hello Everyone. I appreciate the possibility of taking the Atlantis Location Hypotheses back into the main body of Wikiversity. I would welcome all the help that I can get here with the Atlantis Location Hypotheses. I have cut back on my work on it, but it has been on my mind for a long time.

Hasley, I am RAYLEIGH22. The Atlantis Location Hypotheses is the work of myself and MarshallSumter, who has helped me with maps and revisions. I will happily agree that you could be a great help to me also. Most do not want to touch this project or get their name tied up with it because of the subject matter. However, it seems to me as natural as any natural science that I have seen. I would encourage you to read it and to make sure that you do not mind being a Curator of the Atlantis Location Hypotheses. My current thoughts that are stalling my progress, are in part person and in part regarding the following...

The Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America has described mass extinctions and a extraterrestrial impact at 12,900 ka that preceded Plato's described Atlantis demise by approximately 1,200 years

...and how this fits into the Atlantis Location Hypotheses as indeed, it must, with its destructive impacts and mass extinctions. For example, The Carolina Bays Multiple meteor craters around Charleston, S.C. So, as I work my way through this, Hasley, I hope that you are able to help me with taking your time from other things as needed. This Atlantis Location Hypotheses has indeed been a humbling experience for me, as I draw different scientific disciplines into to the Hypotheses to explain with brand-new State-of-the-Art Science, in some cases. For example, Climate Change. Thanks to everyone who has helped me in the past, and Halsey, if you want to take this project on as a Custodian, I thank you very, very much in advance. I feel privileged that so many of the my Wikiversity colleagues of which I am a lowly member, have helped me in the past, who make no reservations in recommending you as a Curator. I cannot say this enough to each and every one of you, THANK YOU! Hasley, I look forward to have you here if you choose to be here, to help me take this back into the mainstream Wikiversity, if it is so approved.

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 00:28, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

I moved your discussion here, you had placed it in a policy discussion about a singular topic. Your topic above is not relevant to local policy for Check User's Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 02:51, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

I found the message that directed me to go here. Thanks for your intervention. Thank you for moving this here. Where and how do we start to move the project out of Draft?

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 17:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Very Good. Thank you all for providing me a place to work. I was just concerned that the work would eventually have to completely stop.

RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 14:06, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with being in draftspace. I currently have there items there (see Category:User:Guy vandegrift/Drafts.) In every discussion I have seen, the consensus has been that only certain kinds of articles belong in mainspace. I had little to do with developing this consensus. But I have no doubt that the consensus did exist and probably will in the near future. --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 23:22, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Yes, consensus for this page remaining in draft space was decided long ago. --mikeu talk 23:39, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

## Why does it say I have contributions here?

I got a pop-up notice through Wikipedia abotu how Wikiversity is more tolerant of blog, personal sites and similar sources; regarding some edits I made from Wikipedia. I check my contribution log and it shows I have contributions here. The only contributions I have here is the response to that talk page message. Why am I seeing "contributions" under my name here that I have never made on Wikiversity? Graywalls (discusscontribs) 02:24, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

CC-BY-SA licensing requires that you be credited for your contributions on imported content. See Wikipedia:Help:Import for more information. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 03:49, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

## teaching bilingual

Hi friends, please help me to be "unblocked". My "error" seems to be that we teach medical scientific methods for Medical doctors in Latin America and we need to be bilingual, hope for understanding. Thank you very much and enjoy the peaceful time --Saltrabook (discusscontribs) 13:30, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

The "error" was ignoring multiple requests and warnings that this is the English Wikiversity, and then accelerating the pace of non-English contributions rather than multilingual contributions.
Multilingual content is possible, but must be added with English primary pages and translated subpages. See Wikiversity:Multilingual Pages for more information and see Department of Occupational and Environmental Health Sciences, University of Panamá for a working example. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:52, 25 December 2019 (UTC)