User talk:Dave Braunschweig

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Attracting Students[edit]

Thanks for all the work you do to improve Wikiversity!

I am interested in attracting more students to the overall platform, and especially to the courses I developed.

I am puzzled by the pageview numbers generated by some of the top courses in the most viewed pages list. For example the top ranked page is currently 10 principles of economics with 21,951 page views. It is a good page (learning resource), but not clearly outstanding. Do you have any insight into how this page attracts the large number of page views that it does? I have similar questions about the top 15 or so pages. What can I learn from this? If I was to begin to create a learning resource on “attracting students” what might it include?

Thanks for your consideration of this. --Lbeaumont (discusscontribs) 10:52, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

@Lbeaumont: The short answer is Google. Top ranked pages are popular because Google shows them to people who search for that topic, and people click on the link hoping it explains what they are looking for. I suspect many of these top pages are incomplete or insufficient, but users keep hoping.
To see a couple of examples that did end up drawing appropriate Google support, take a look at IT Fundamentals and Internet Fundamentals. These courses ended up drawing very high Google search placement. I didn't do anything special with them other than list them on the front page as news when they were complete. Google found the content and people started clicking on the links Google provided.
From my perspective, the secret to attracting students is to select a subject they are interested in, and then create content that is easily assessable and engaging. As we improve overall Wikiversity quality, users will be more likely to click on a Wikiversity link, and our search results will continue to improve.
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:14, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Copyright accommodations for certain screen shots[edit]


In a recent private email exchange with user MichaelacaulfieldI learned that he became discouraged as a Wikiversity contributor after the images he uploaded for the course he was developing on Web Literacy were deleted. After being discouraged by this Wikiversity incident he went on to publish his work at: Please note that the (majority of) deleted images were of google search results pages. I am not clear on the intellectual property rights status of such pages, but the way I think about it a primary creative contributor is the originator of the query. Can we explore some accommodation that will allow search engine query results page images to be used in Wikiversity courses? Has such use ever been legally challenged? This seems like an important bridge to cross to assist editors in developing courses related directly to using search engines. Thanks for you consideration of this issue. Thanks! --Lbeaumont (discusscontribs) 19:40, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

@Lbeaumont: Michaelacaulfield was only active for about 30 hours. There is no record of any of his Wikiversity content having been deleted by anyone except him. What I suspect happened is that he uploaded his images to Commons, he did not own the rights to those images, and they were appropriately deleted. If he had contacted us, we might have been able to help him understand the process and find appropriate images, but we never heard from him. In the end, based on what he created, either Wikibooks or BC Open Campus were more appropriate anyway.
Wikimedia is not flexible regarding copyright restrictions, nor should they be. Wikiversity has an exemption policy that is much more flexible regarding Fair Use of copyrighted content, but we do need to be careful not to violate Fair Use guidelines. To address the general question regarding screen shots of search engine results, yes, I think those would be covered by the EDP, as long as no free equivalent exists.
If you'd like to work on something that would help new users (and users new to uploading files) better understand image licensing requirements, and where and how to upload what, so they don't go away discouraged, please do so.
Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:07, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Positions of Skywalkistan[edit]

I understand why you deleted the page. However, can I have the source, so I can move it to a user page. (I actually am using this timeline for this). Thank you

TyEvSkyo (discusscontribs) 22:55, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

@TyEvSkyo: Restored to User:TyEvSkyo/Positions of Skywalkistan. Thanks for asking. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:21, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig: Thank you TyEvSkyo (discusscontribs) 00:04, 19 November 2017 (UTC)