User talk:Dave Braunschweig

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I look forward to hearing from you. So that we can all follow the discussion:

  • If you post a message on this page, I will reply on this page.
  • If I leave a message on your talk page, I will watch for your response there.



Hi. I'm really sorry about that edit you reverted. I didn't even mean to vandalize. I clicked "Edit" to view the source. I unknowingly saved the accidental edit. Thank You For Your Antivandal work! CopernicusAD (discusscontribs) 20:11, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

No worries. Welcome to Wikiversity! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:45, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

I've just been locked out of my own project?[edit]

And most of the content has been blown away? Can I get edit rights back?...

Sorry, the protection was supposed to go on the main page rather than the subpage. Check page history. All of the edits are there, but you may need to go back to get the last 3,000 characters or so. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:02, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Ok! I think I understand what happened. Thanks for catching it and protecting the page. Did our TAs not configure the site correctly? I can message them but would you know what they need to do to prevent our sites from showing up publicly? Much appreciated!

When your classmates create their new pages, they just need to make sure they put them under Data Networking/Spring 2017. Otherwise, we can move them there. The problem was that I moved and you saved at the same time, resulting in two copies. Then I tried to merge them, and all that was left was the new copy, with the old content in history. I'll edit the Spring 2017 page to make it easier to see how to add the subpages. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:07, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. It's probably my fault, I added a new page which I thought was under the Spring 2017 folder because the site url was showing Data Networking/Spring 2017 in the path... I suppose if you could add some hints on how to do this correctly on the Spring 2017 page it would help a lot, since there will be like 15 sites there in the coming week or so. Thanks again. I'll message our TAs and students in our forum.

Inputbox added. This should be much easier now. Let your classmates and TAs know. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:18, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Re: Community of Practice[edit]

Hello, Dave.

As I'm not sure whether my edit on my userpage will reach you, I want to make sure that the message reaches you by dropping a commment on your page. I'm an university student who, as a part of my course, has to create a Wikiversity page about one of the chosen academic subjects. I will work on my page in upcoming 2-3 weeks as a part of this course so you don't have to worry that I'm doing something nasty like creating blank pages for no particular reason.

Cheers. Kostur Kosturlel (discusscontribs) 09:36, 3 April 2017 (CET)

As noted above, "If I leave a message on your talk page, I will watch for your response there." Answered on User talk:Kosturlel. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:38, 3 April 2017 (UTC)


Hi Dave,

The "Readings" left on the Atlantis research page troubles me. While I look for current archaeological evidence of a paradigm shift of science supporting Atlantis in the Azores using recent scientific discussions other researches look to site discussions of they feel to be fables.


I really think that the documentation here is in two separate categories. Could there be a way to separate these two obviously different areas of research and what they hope to accomplish?

I guess what I am asking is do "Research Projects" and "Readings" belong together under research projects under the same Atlantis heading?

When may the label "Fringe Science" be removed from the Atlantis in the Azores research project?

Maybe I would be better off removing all references of "Atlantis" and re-name the whole thing "Large Submerged Atlantic island hypothesis". This wold allow me to shed the label "Atlantis" and all of the controversy.

Furthermore, if Atlantis is a Myth then why do they insist it existed on Thera in a different time than indicated in Plato's "readings"?


RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 02:10, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

There seem to be separate issues here. The readings are readings about Atlantis from Wikipedia. If they are no longer relevant to a resource on Atlantis, that's an issue to take up at Wikipedia. As to when your own research wouldn't be considered fringe, I think by definition, it's when you have peer-reviewed acceptance as a legitimate hypothesis for whatever you are researching. You might try submitting to the WikiJournal of Science and see if there is anyone willing to review your work there. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:39, 4 April 2017 (UTC)


I tried to submit the Atlantis Location Hypothesis to the Wiki Journal of Science. However, it did not turn out so well. Perhaps you can correct my mistakes and see that it makes it? Can we preserve the site somewhere as it is today. Undoubtedly it needs revision but I'd like to save the original.


RAYLEIGH22 (discusscontribs) 02:55, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not an editor or reviewer for the WikiJournal of Science. Try checking with User:Guy vandegrift. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 03:09, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Editing Internet Text[edit]


On Saturday I created a page: Titles in translation ( in translation). On Sunday it was moved to my user space. This page should be a subpage at Internet Texts in Student projects so I tried to move this page there but unfortunately I don't know how to do it and I don't want to make something wrong. Could you help me?

Thank you in advance for all your help.

Katharina199317 (discusscontribs) 19:08, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

@Katharina199317: YesY Done Also, note that <br> is not necessary when editing wiki pages. In general, you shouldn't need HTML at all. Also, internal wiki page links are created using [[Editing Internet Texts]] syntax. This allows the "What links here" tool to work correctly. Enjoy! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:34, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello Dave,
My students are confused about creating subpages to the project main page at Editing Internet Texts , as you can judge yourself by looking at, for instance, what user Annmarczuk did with Editing Internet Texts/American Exceptionalism and National Myths in John F. Kennedy's Rhetoric
Apparently, she wanted to create a set of subpages, but something went wrong (I assume that subsubpages are not automatically listed on the main project page). I wish I could help her but I don't know what she really did so I need to bother you again. Incidentally, is there any help file/Wikiversity document explaining how <inputbox> really works?
Thanks! --Iszmael (discusscontribs) 19:36, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Annmarczuk did fine. The problem was in using {{Subpages/List}}, which picks up all subpages rather than only the first level of subpages. I've changed this to listing each student project individually. There's currently no automated way to do this as far as I know. Documentation for inputbox is available at mw:Extension:InputBox. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:03, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, Dave, that helps. --Iszmael (discusscontribs) 21:24, 7 April 2017 (UTC)


unfortunately, I must bother you with a similar issue to the one at the top of the thread. My project Introduction to audio description (Introduction to audio description) should also be a subpage to Editing Internet Texts project.

But again I am not sure how to move it. Could you help?

Thank you in advance for patience and help.

(The preceding unsigned comment was added by MarB94 (talkcontribs) 10 April 2017)

@MarB94: YesY Done. Also, note that wiki page links are usually better as internal links. See Help:Links for more information. If you'd like to learn more about moving pages yourself, see meta:Help:Moving a page -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:03, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Hello Dave,

My page Machine translation is supposed to be a subpage of Editing Internet Texts, but I am not sure how can I move it myself. I would be grateful if you could help me.

Thanks in advance. --Skibaskiba (discusscontribs) 10:36, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

@Skibaskiba: YesY Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:38, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

A trial for an educational topic[edit]

I tried a topic about Quaternionic Field Equations on my personal user talk. I used special fonts to create formulas. I am sure that this is not the preferred way to present mathematical formulas, but it appears to work. I use this method also in the discussion threads at ResearchGate and I apply the method at Is this way of generating formulas tolerated at Wikiversity? I give an example below:

     ϕ = ∇ ψ = ϕᵣ + 𝟇 = (∇ᵣ + 𝞩 ) (ψᵣ + 𝟁) = ∇ᵣ ψᵣ − ⟨𝞩,𝟁⟩ + ∇ᵣ 𝟁 + 𝞩 ψᵣ ±𝞩 × 𝟁

It is fairly easy to prepare this text in MS Word. It is a mixture of fonts. The advantage is that the formulas stay readable in edit format.

(The preceding unsigned comment was added by HansVanLeunen (talkcontribs) 11 April 2017)

@HansVanLeunen: It would depend on whether or not users would be likely to have those fonts installed. When using special fonts, you have no idea what I see on my end, and whether or not the symbols you selected match the formula I see. In particular, you can't test the results on your own system. You would need to use some type of generic setup to see the results. You might try using a mobile platform to see what the pages look like in that environment. See meta:Help:Displaying a formula for information on Mediawiki-supported formula formats and advantages of each. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:04, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunsweig: You convinced me. I will try to write the formulas in the standard fonts of the editor.--HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 20:42, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunsweig: I prepared a trial for an educational topic that uses the formula editor in my sandbox and after that, I copied it to my personal talk page. I tried to add links to wiki terms, but that does not seem to work.--HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 20:43, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
@HansVanLeunen: Have you seen Help:Linking? Do you have a specific example of what it is that does not seem to work? How do you know that it isn't working? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:06, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunsweig: I am now seriously trying to generate the Hilbert Book Model project. For that reason, I published already two pages that are meant to become part of that project. I searched around, but I found no clue how to combine these pages into a new project. The Pages are Hilbert Book Model and Quaternionic Field Equations. If I am doing things wrong then I hope that someone corrects me. Greathings, Hans --HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 12:25, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
@HansVanLeunen: What name (title) do you want for the learning project? Also, please see Help:Linking and Help:Subpages. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:39, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
@Dave Braunsweig: Thanks for your great help. I have created the Hilbert Book Model Project Hilbert Book Model Project. I wonder whether it has sense to covert it to an original research project. How can this be done? Start with a template or adapt the current project such that it becomes a research project?--HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 12:51, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
@HansVanLeunen: This is a third request. Please see Help:Linking. We do not use HTTP/HTTPS links when linking to wiki pages. Internal links, using [[Title]] syntax can be tracked by the wiki software. External HTTP/HTTPS links are not tracked. Regarding the Hilbert Book Model Project, based on the comment at [1], I think the only option for this project is to tag it as original research, using {{Original research}} at the top. It may also be tagged as {{Fringe}} science, but I'll leave that determination to someone with more physics background than I have. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:52, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Template:Remark to I started the Hilbert Book Model Project and turned it into an original research project. I do not understand well how the mechanism works that adds pages to the project based on internal links. Can I trigger that mechanism? I hope that I have the links now correctly installed. Can I define internal links to page sections?
Greathings, Hans --HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 10:00, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
See Help:Linking. It addresses all of these questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:34, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Delete my css page[edit]

Hello Dave Braunschweig, I have seen that you have deleted my Userpages as requested. Please delete the page User:Labant/common.css also. Thanks. --Labant (discusscontribs) 04:48, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

YesY Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:34, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Moving text from Quadratic to Parabola[edit]

Hi Dave, I noticed your comment and the changes which you made. Many thanks for your attention to this matter. 

Are the moves which I made now OK?

--ThaniosAkro (discusscontribs) 13:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes, they're fine. Something I overlooked initially is that you are the original contributor for both parts, so the reference wasn't necessary in this case. But it's still a good habit to get into. The software records who contributes, so just commenting where a big move came from and where it went to covers everything if there are questions later. Thanks for checking. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Please delete Hilbert Book Model Project/Quaternionic Hilbert space[edit]

The interlink "Quaternionic Hilbert space" in Hilbert Book Model Project kept behaving curiously. It appeared as a red link. It is not changed to a working link. For that reason, I copied the page content to a page named "Quaternionic Hilbert Spaces" and changed the interlink in Hilbert Book Model Project into the new name. I kindly request you to delete the page "Hilbert Book Model Project/Quaternionic Hilbert space" from the system such that the new page can take its place. Sincerely yours, Hans van Leunen. --HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 08:54, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Page names in Mediawiki software are unique. Upper case, lower case, singular, and plural are four separate pages. You must link to the correct page in order for a red link to become active. If a page is named incorrectly, you can rename it yourself using the Move option. See meta:Help:Moving a page for more information. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:46, 23 April 2017 (UTC)