User talk:Dave Braunschweig

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Asking for Advice[edit]

Hi Dave,

I'm not sure that this is the appropriate place to leave you a message but I was wondering if I could ask for your advice. This semester I have a particularly outstanding student who created an article that is exceptional. I was wondering what it would take for the student to publish the article on Wikipedia. She's not a seasoned editor and I know that Wikipedia's rules are very strict. I was wondering if you could provide me with additional input on this. You can find the article here: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Digital_Media_Concepts/White_Supremacy_on_the_Internet

Thanks again so much for all your help and support over the years. We really appreciate it.

@Ireicher2: It is a great article. I suspect Wikipedia won't take it in its current form. They will probably want it merged into Wikipedia:White supremacy. In terms of working with someone at Wikipedia in education, I would start with https://wikiedu.org/teach-with-wikipedia/ . There is contact information at the bottom of the page. See what they would recommend.
If you'd like, we can highlight it here (news announcement on the main page), and also pull it out to a main page resource if you and/or the author would prefer. You can also highlight it on the Digital Media Concepts page, perhaps in a section titled Outstanding Contributions or Examples of High Quality Projects, or similar. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:07, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig: That would be great. Thanks so much, Dave. -- Ireicher2 (discusscontribs) 01:12, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
@Ireicher2: YesY Done See Main Page/News. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:20, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 17:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

I can’t even post a question?[edit]

I tried to start a page. Unauthorized. I tried to ask you a question. Unauthorized. How can I get my full question to you? How can I get authorized to start pages? Thanks. DErnestWachter (discusscontribs) 02:37, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

@DErnestWachter: Welcome to Wikiversity! Please slow down and learn more about Wikiversity, and what content may and may not be posted. You are welcome to write your own content, and link to sources of content you believe to be important for others to reference. Copyrighted content is not accepted unless you own the copyright. Open content under CC-BY or CC-BY-SA may only be posted with reference to the original source. In most cases, it is better to link and avoid problems than try to copy large blocks of text. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:30, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Can a WV resource be licensed NC?[edit]

Raspanti has agreed to release his book under CC-BY-SA-NC. I understand that WV files can have this license, but can WV resource pages also have it?

  1. Note that the bottom of each page contains the statement:"Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply."
  2. I placed the resource under Raspanti's user page because if the NC stipulation is not permitted, I will attempt to persuade the WMF to at least permit the stipulation in someone's userspace.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 20:38, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
@Guy vandegrift: No. First, note that it is CC-BY-NC-SA. I don't know that it matters legally, but it is always written with NC before SA. Second, CC-BY-SA is explicitly not compatible with CC-BY-NC-SA. See https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Wiki/cc_license_compatibility . You're not going to be able to use wiki pages for this, only a file upload.
What you might consider instead is using something like Pressbooks. Pressbooks allows for a different license on each page, or an overall license and then a different license on specific pages. This would allow you to combine CC-BY-SA and CC-BY-NC-SA resources, as long as you don't mix them. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:45, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig: Would it be correct to say that Cc-by-nc-sa pdf files are allowed on WV because CC-by-sa WV mainspace pages only link to the pdf files? If that is the case, I assume that I can break the book up into 19 chapter.pdf files and create 19 subpages to a to a WV mainspace page on the book. Each subpage would begin with a link to the chapter pdf file, followed by questions and discussions that users would contribute. The good news for me is that although the final product is bit more tacky, it will be much less work to subdivide File:Physics_for_beginners_Original_Version.pdf into smaller pdf files than attempt to create a wiki-text version of the book.
@Guy vandegrift: Yes, files have their own licenses, and the CC-BY-SA content links to it. Yes, you can absolutely create separate CC-BY-NC-SA chapters for the book and upload those files. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:03, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
I am aware that Quizbank is somewhat incompatible with Wikiversity. But I would much prefer to find a better home for it after I have managed to find funding and/or serious collaborators on the project. --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 21:51, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

I cannot post questions here. Who can I email?[edit]

This site will not allow me to ask actual specific questions. Who can I email? Thank you. DErnestWachter (discusscontribs) 20:48, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

@DErnestWachter: The site will allow you to ask specific questions. You just asked one. I appreciate your frustration, but you need to slow down until you have time to learn more about Wikiversity, and the edit filters have time to recognize your experience level through a limited number of days and posts. Your enthusiasm is exceeding our ability to support you. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:59, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Erm...[edit]

I happened across the above user just by chance while patrolling spam and I dug into their contribs here and on enwiki and they do not appear to be here (on any project) to build an encyclopedia. They've created several hoaxes within articles on enwiki as well as here with their OR and attacks. I won't pretend to understand all the nuance of Wikiversity but I feel that we shouldn't allow hoaxes to sit around anywhere and this user appears to be pushing his thoughts in a lot of places. Praxidicae (discusscontribs) 16:44, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: Thanks for sharing. I agree they are not here to build an encyclopedia. Original research isn't necessarily a problem on Wikiversity, but fringe research is not welcome without an appropriate label, and even then can be a bridge too far. Whether or not they are here to build legitimate learning resources or just hoaxes remains to be determined, but I appreciate your input. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:27, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
This is definitely beyond fringe. In the interest of not violating any outing policy, I'll just leave it at that if you search some of their creations yourself ;) They've now been indeffed on enwiki for attacks and creating nonsense. I know that doesn't change things here but figured you might like to know. :) Praxidicae (discusscontribs) 17:30, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Cookie[edit]

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Thanks for being so helpful when I abruptly showed up with my ideas, and for everything else you've done on Wikiversity! Sincerily, MoonyTheDwarf (discusscontribs) 18:29, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Now I owe you another cookie.. But best not to fill your talkpage with cookies, hmm? Thank you, will make things easier. --MoonyTheDwarf (discusscontribs) 01:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)