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my new formula for the circumference of the ellipse[edit source]

Hallo Guy vandergrift,

at the end of april you informed me, that you have moved my draft into userspace.

I have edited my draft again. What do you think about it now?

--Becksjuergen (discusscontribs) 08:18, 10 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Math markup goes inside <math>...</math>. Chemistry markup goes inside <math chem>...</math> or <chem>...</chem>. All these tags use TeX.

The TeX code has to be put literally: MediaWiki templates, predefined templates, and parameters cannot be used within math tags: pairs of double braces are ignored and "#" gives an error message. However, math tags work in the then and else part of #if, etc. See m:Template:Demo of attempt to use parameters within TeX (backlinks, edit) for more information.

For more information visit this page:

After lengthy discussions, a new policy has been adapted on Wikiversity that most work stays in userspace. Userspace is freely available to all who browse Wikiversity, and it assigns authorship in a way that is unique among the WMF wikis. I do most of my own work in either my own userspace, or under a page devoted to my univerisity. You are making good progress. --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 15:50, 10 May 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

We sent you an e-mail[edit source]

Hello Guy vandegrift,

Really sorry for the inconvenience. This is a gentle note to request that you check your email. We sent you a message titled "The Community Insights survey is coming!". If you have questions, email

You can see my explanation here.

MediaWiki message delivery (discusscontribs) 18:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Files Missing Information[edit source]

Thanks for uploading files to Wikiversity. All files must have source and license information to stay at Wikiversity. The following files are missing {{Information}} and/or Wikiversity:License tags, and will be deleted if the missing information is not added. See Wikiversity:Uploading files for more information.

MaintenanceBot (discusscontribs) 04:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikiversity Grant Proposal: Call for Support or Feedback[edit source]

Hi Guy vandegrift!

A collaborator (bwsulliv) and I have submitted a grant proposal for a new Wikiversity learning project, which we are calling Eventmath. We aim to help math and statistics teachers to teach their students the mathematical thinking skills needed to make sense of current events. Specifically, the project will pair math lesson plans with news articles (or social media posts, if the goal is to debunk misinformation, for example).

I'm writing to you because we would like to gather more feedback from the Wikiversity community. I noticed that you've made contributions related to MyOpenMath, so I thought you might be interested in the proposal; coincidentally, I noticed that David Lippman, who has led MyOpenMath, is the same person who wrote the math textbook Math in Society! Our project is akin to a living version of that textbook that can be updated by the community.

If you could either endorse the proposal or provide constructive feedback, we would really appreciate it!

Thank you for your consideration.

Greg at Higher Math Help (discusscontribs) 20:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Greg at Higher Math Help: It does look interesting.
  1. I will write an endorsement at
  2. Regarding feedback, my only thought is Calibrated Peer Review. I know an economics professor who also uses current events to assign essays. The advantage of current events is that forcing students to write on a timely topic suppresses plagiarism. The econ prof also adds CPR in an effort to reduce the workload on the prof. CPR is not a panacea though. I think of it as a prototype for a future and much more sophisticated system that really uses Artificial Intelligence.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Guy vandegrift:
Thank you so much for taking the time to endorse our Eventmath proposal! We're happy to say that we've reached the due-diligence stage and are awaiting a final decision from the committee.
Since you have significant experience and expertise regarding Wikiversity policies and practices, I'm writing to ask if you would be able to serve as an advisor for the Eventmath grant. I'm also reaching out to Dave Braunschweig to ask if he can join us in the same capacity.
Specifically, we propose a monthly video call with the two of you as we implement the primary grant activities from late May through mid-August. During these meetings, we could provide project updates and also address any questions that arise as we implement our plan.
If this works for you, we invite you to create a new section titled "Wikiversity advisors," just above "Interested users and contributors" and then add yourself to it. We appreciate your consideration. We're very excited to contribute to Wikiversity and would be super grateful for the opportunity to work with you!
Thanks again,
P.S. Somehow, I didn't see your reply on this page until now (maybe using @ in the reply template doesn't work?). Anyway, thank you for your feedback! I just checked out the link you provided to Calibrated Peer Review. That does seem interesting, and that is a good point about plagiarism. Our entries are based around lessons that may or may not involve essays, but I imagine the peer review system might work for other types of assignments. My initial thought is that students might be able to learn by reviewing the work of their peers, in addition to any feedback they might receive on their own work. When helping students to improve their mathematical writing, I often suggest that they imagine they're explaining their work to a classmate; some type of peer review could support them in that effort. We will probably want to keep prerequisites for contributions as low as possible, and we want contributors to be able to use these lessons in their classrooms as they see fit; however, it may make sense to provide a guide to Calibrated Peer Review for those educators who are interested (I expect many may be interested, as it would also reduce their workload and speed up the feedback process). I just added a note to an internal planning document to consider this further when we reach the relevant stage of development. Thanks for your ideas!
(Oh, and I imagine you may know a lot about this already, but here's an article on automated essay grading you might enjoy. I thought about linking to scholarly research, but I didn't immediately find any good review articles. The ETS does provide a selection of publications that might be a good start, though.)
--Greg at Higher Math Help (discusscontribs) 04:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A Barnstar for you![edit source]

Barnstar Speedy.png The shooting barnstar
You have been an exceptionally good editor here, Guy. Thank you for your work. Please keep editing! --IamTheAstronomer (discusscontribs) 06:27, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You’re still doing good! Happy editing! --IamTheAstronomerTalk 23:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Your wiki creator permission on Miraheze[edit source]

Hi Guy,

I just wanted to follow up with you to see whether you were still needing to have wikis created on Miraheze related to your work with Wright University. Our wiki creator policy does call for wiki creators to have their permission removed when the wiki creator has been globally inactive on Miraheze for at least three months. We've been very grateful for your volunteering as a wiki creator and for being an enthusiastic Miraheze booster in the early years. All of the Wright University wikis you created are exempt from your Dormancy Policy. At the same time, though, we do have to apply our policy's inactivity clause equally to all wiki creators. So, I'm just writing to let you know that your wiki creator bit has been removed. Though I suspect you're not needing the bit anymore, as a courtesy, I'm just reaching out to you to see whether you will still require it and, if so, make arrangements to have you re-request the bit from the Miraheze community.

Thank you,
Dmehus (discusscontribs) 21:42, 11 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As you guessed, I am currently not making wikis. Since retiring, I have no need for such "private" wikis, though I do remain convinced that the concept is sound. Thanks for the kind words. We should try to stay in touch. --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 23:27, 11 May 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Creating wiki[edit source]

Hey can you create a wikipedia for Fazlu Raheman He is a notable Musicial artist.?

To Jack Deans: I noticed that you started a page on Wikipedia at Wikipedia:User:Jack Deans/sandbox/Fazlu Raheman. I suggest you continue working on that space. Once you have started it we can gauge where it might go. Unless a page is really big and complicated, it can be easily transported between Wikipedia and Wikiversity. Also:

  1. One rule among all the WMF wikis is that everything must be strictly noncommercial.
  • There can be no hint that your intent is to promote sales of this person's art.
  • I googled Fazlu Raheman and there seems to be nothing about him except personal promotion pages (like facebook.) It is unlikely that any WMF wiki will accept an article based on those sources. It would not even be allowed on a Wikversity sandbox.
  1. There is a good chance that Wikipedia will allow you to keep Wikipedia:User:Jack Deans/sandbox/Fazlu Raheman for a short period. It would To optimize you chances I suggest you delete what you wrote on Wikipedia:User:Jack Deans, and put something on Wikipedia:User:Jack Deans/sandbox/Fazlu Raheman to convince them it's not just a promo.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 23:32, 23 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  2. Finally: Even though Miraheze is also non-commercial, they are far more likely to accept something like this, especially if it is a contribution to one of their established wikis. See
Good luck! --Guy vandegrift (discuss • [[Special:Contributions/Guy vandegrift}}|contribs]]) 23:32, 23 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Footnote: As was already suggested, your best candidate for WMF wiki is Wikipedia. They do welcome such articles. See, for example: Wikipedia:Tigran Hamasyan--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 23:53, 23 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Someone locked her page and I am not fitting in it so I told you to create about him plz create about him or unlocked his page.if you decided yp create about him you can search Fazlu Raheman On google and collect more info about them. I hope you will create it. Thanks.(The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jack Deans (talkcontribs) )

You should be able to edit Draft:Fazlu Raheman. You need to be meticulous about avoiding any appearance that you are trying to sell records. --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 03:01, 30 October 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jack Deans: Draft:Fazlu Raheman is now deleted due to inactivity. If you change your mind and want to develop it here, just let me know.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 19:01, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes plz continue writing about Fazlu Raheman . I hope you will!. (discuss) 07:59, 31 January 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yeah, I want to develop it again. Can you create a page about him. Jack Deans (discusscontribs) 08:25, 14 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jack Deans: I undeleted the page in draft space at Draft:Fazlu Raheman. You can work on your project there until it is ready.09:09, 14 February 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Miraheze wright* wikis[edit source]

Hi. Sorry to bother you here, and I hope you're doing well. I was just wondering whether you still needed your ~100 wikis since my understanding is that they're no longer being used. If they're still needed that's perfectly fine, just want to make sure :) Reception123 (discusscontribs) 18:31, 7 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, I am now retired and still use wikis. But I won't be needing miraheze since that was intended for student wikis.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 21:04, 7 December 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How we will see unregistered users[edit source]


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18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)