# User talk:Guy vandegrift

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## Unable to register w Miraheze

My name is wsul080, I am --Kainluthman22 (discusscontribs) 21:56, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

User:Blakes 23 - Kain Luthman created this page, is this intentional Guy? -Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 22:17, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes, they were sharing computers, and in fact, I wrote this to show them how to leave messages.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 22:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

i need my wsul password. fairytale.22@wright.edu

## hello

HELLO!!! ITS ME

(I instructed user:Grimmc1 not to sign --Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 14:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

## WSUL!!

you forgot to give me my WSUL--Lizard48 (discusscontribs) 14:51, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

## book

can not open the book in a PDF. was saying unable to load.--Grimmc1 (discusscontribs) 14:25, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

@Grimmc1: Maybe it's a Wright State Problem.

## 2400 poerson not on roster

schedule is where?--SidVader (discusscontribs) 21:47, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

## Miraheze page and project for PHY 1060

Sir,

User Jer-S wsul040 / Phy 1060 class, am I to put my potential project multiple choice questions directly onto my Miraheze page? (I have updated the Miraheze page to reflect an example of what I mean). Thank you.

Yes, but keep in mind two things:
1. Don't use Miraheze if it gives you any trouble.
2. Keep a backup file. There are a number of ways to do this. I will discuss in class.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 15:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

## Jer_S SVG File

Sir,

I created the file, but am having difficulty saving it as an svg to wikipedia.... here are the two version I uploaded (after uploading one bad one which has been flagged for deletion)

## hello

I am wsul045 and will do a study guide for T1. Visit https://wright045.miraheze.org/wiki/Astronomy --W500mah (discusscontribs) 15:20, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

## WikiQuiz + PDF solutions subpage

https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=User:W697jms/Jared%27s_Project&oldid=1651364
Check this out. First Wiki quiz created with solutions in pdf file subpage for viewing. Opinions?
W697jms (discusscontribs) 01:44, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

## Friday's Math 2/3/2017

User:W035tjl/sandbox

Country in Africa, Me, and w362mjb--W035tjl (discusscontribs) 19:57, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

The problem we did in class.

user:w697jms, user:W20arl, user:Panzer006
W697jms (discusscontribs) 21:42, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

## note to self

μcourtney.donovan let--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 21:17, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

## Guy vandegrift/ktt

Good question. First, it was supposed to be Guy vandegrift/T/ktt but I forgot to place it in that "T" personal space. A while back Dave_Braunschweig requested that we refrain from making templates that others are not likely to use, and this one is intended to keep lines on the same page using a page-break that only appears if one prints out the pdf. I need it to prepare exams. I ended up using it on a private Miraheze wiki because it was needed to create page breaks for an exam I was printing. Someday I hope that teachers routinely do all their writing in Wikitext on private wikis. Some exams can't be seen by students, so I write them on https://wright.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page or perhaps on https://wikiversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page. I created those to wikis, but also "adopted" a wiki that someone else created at https://freecollegeproject.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
I have decided that Wikiversity is essential to "making education free", but needs to be supplemented with private wikis so that instructors could share ideas about exam, and so students could write in a way that competing students can watch what they are doing. See https://wright100.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page for a first-rate essay that eventually needs to be imported into Wikiversity. By writing this essay in private, the student will get sole credit for their work, something important to the letter grade of a course, as well as placement on a student's resume when they go out looking to start careers.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 00:37, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

## Your submissions to the WJS

Hi Guy! I've been reworking the submission process of the WJS. You can see a draft of the new approach at WikiJournal of Science/Contribute. You will see I have included for review the six articles you posted in the zeroth-issue of the journal. If any of them is reviewed, it will be included in the first issue. However, I wanted to ask you to take a quick look at each of them and consider if they are all ready for review, or if some of them need work or are no longer appropriate for the journal. Thanks! --Felipe (discusscontribs) 23:26, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

The new format looks good! Regarding my advice:
1. I didn't read Atlantis/Location Hypotheses but recall that someone objected to it being on Wikiversity. I would hesitate to publish that one without at least two good reviews. In fact I would hesitate no matter how many good reviews it recieved.
2. The two Wikipedia articles Alpha Centauri and Astronomical spectroscopy have already been pre-approved by myself and one other professional. I would be happy to double check the latest version on Wikipedia. I think one of the useful functions of the Journal might be to "certify" short and accurate WP articles. These articles occasionally degrade in quality as WP editors add material. The new material isn't wrong -- just unnecessary.
3. I am qualified to referee the physics articles that were submitted, and will get back to you soon on those as a reviewer. I am really excited to see what happens to this Journal in the near future.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 12:33, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

## Alpha Centauri

Hi Guy vandegrift!

I am currently peer reviewing Alpha Centauri. This is an open process. Please add any comments you wish to make to the talk page for the resource being reviewed only! Thanks! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 16:19, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

• I've finished my review! Please feel free to address it! I have been communicating with some of the parent article authors but so far only limited responses. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 01:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

## Astronomical spectroscopy

Hi Guy vandegrift!

I am currently peer reviewing Astronomical spectroscopy. This is an open process. Please add any comments you wish to make to the talk page for the resource being reviewed only! Thanks! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 16:22, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

• I've finished my review! Please feel free to address it! I have been communicating with some of the parent article authors but so far no responses. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 01:14, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

## Link from Hilbert Book Project/Quaternionic Field Equations to Maxwell's Equations

Quaternionic partial differential equations are a pure mathematical fairly close equivalent of Maxwell equations. The page forms part of the Hilbert Book Model Project. I am open to any criticism or remarks. Greetings, Hans.--HansVanLeunen (discusscontribs) 13:19, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

This doesn't look like a lower division physics concept, and I have enough on my plate with my students already.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 15:48, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

## Abridged timeline of quantum mechanics

Hi Guy vandegrift!

I am currently peer reviewing Abridged timeline of quantum mechanics. This is an open process. Please add any comments you wish to make to the talk page for the resource or its apparent duplicate being reviewed only! Thanks! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 20:43, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Since I edited it I should probably stay out of the peer review.14:29, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

## How things work college course/Quantum mechanics timeline

Hi Guy vandegrift!

I am currently peer reviewing How things work college course/Quantum mechanics timeline. This is an open process. Please add any comments you wish to make to the talk page for the resource being reviewed only! Thanks! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 22:09, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

## Advanced Classical Mechanics/The Eikonal Approximation and Classical Particle Motion

Hi Guy vandegrift!

I am currently peer reviewing Advanced Classical Mechanics/The Eikonal Approximation and Classical Particle Motion. This is an open process. Please add any comments you wish to make to the talk page for the resource being reviewed only! Thanks! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 21:45, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

thanks--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 12:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

## Solar eclipse lab on a sunny day

Hi Guy vandegrift!

Your laboratory: Solar eclipse lab on a sunny day appears to be well-developed and ready for learners! Would you like to have it announced on our Main Page News? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 15:05, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Sure.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 22:50, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

## Informal Learning Activities

Hello Guy,

You might remember that, over a year ago, you offered me support in a Wikiversity project I proposed to put together.

Well, it's got to a stage where it could go public but I have a few questions to ask, apart from those about how to go public. (Or is it already public?)

Cheers, Wnholmes (discusscontribs) 12:02, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

I looked at, and yes it is public. You might be asked by others to change the name of the resource, but I personally have no objections. If you are asked to move it, I assure you that the new place (i.e. name) will be more appropriate. I will go into your mainspace resource and fix your links.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 14:59, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

## Physics Edit

Can you take a look at [1] and see if it's a valid comment or should be rolled back? Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:58, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes it seems to be a valid comment, which is odd because it seems to be a high quality document. Is there a template we can put on it? It is certainly not "fringe" science. My guess is that a student wrote it based on a course. At the very least, we need to highlight the IP editor's comment on the main page and give others the offer to respond on the talk page.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 19:29, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
I typically move comments like that to the discussion page and add a {{Notice}} at the top. Whatever works for you. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:49, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

## Openstax Physics

See WV:RFD. I'm wondering why Openstax Physics was tagged as CC-BY-NC-SA. The original source is CC-BY. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:37, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

I did not realize there was a difference. Sorry. I replied at https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity_talk:Copyrights&oldid=1727209 - And, I deleted my link to the Wikiversity pdf files on Wikpedia:OpenStax College till this is sorted out. Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 16:22, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

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Dear Guy, provided my conclusions on Dave Braunschweigs user talk page. Start work on Open Badges, hopefully a helpful learning resource for others. Thank you once again for your and Daves support. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 08:21, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

## Grateful

Thank you for your explanation, thankful to you.may u explain the curve drawing part in bending moment diagram.

## Mechanics Question

Can you take a look at [2] and verify whether or not the anonymous user's concerns are valid? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 03:01, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

## Small Font Formatting

Please see Special:LintErrors/multiple-unclosed-formatting-tags. The only pages currently generating this error have unmatched <small> tags in them. The problem appears to be the way the proposed HTML5 wiki interpreter handles link formatting. To format links correctly, the small tag needs to be inside each link, such as [[title|<small>text</small>]]. There is another approach using a div and stying. You can set up an entire block as small using:

<div style="font-size:smaller">
all smaller wiki text inside the div
</div>


Please revise the formatting of these three pages to remove the lint errors. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:33, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

I think I fixed it, but am puzzled because the two physics equations didn't seem to have the problem. I searched "small" and found two instances, and removed both of them.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 21:13, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
I think I found it in Physics equations/Equations. It's a subtle issue, but inline styles such as <small> can't go past block styles such as paragraphs. It's hard to see in wikitext, because we might add a tag for style, but not see the inherent tags for paragraphs, lists, etc. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:31, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
Physics equations will be obsolete in a few months. With the openstax books out, I can piggyback off them. This time I will be more organized with the transclusions--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 23:11, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Before you spend too much effort developing the spade page please see my notes at: User:Mu301/Learning_blog/2018-01#The_World_Wide_Wikiverse and this discussion. It looks to me like you may have broken the incoming links to the page cross-wiki. --mikeu talk 19:06, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't think of the cross-wiki problem, and will immediately return "Lunar effect" to it's proper location. I placed "your" Lunar effect page just to demonstrate one possible solution to this problem. We both agree there is a problem with quality control on Wikiversity. And, to be honest, we both agree that the spades (ect.) subspace is not likely to be the optimal solution to this problem.
One reason I am spending this time on the spade page is that I want to convince you and others that we need a much better wiki devoted to educational materials. Part of this reform is the need for private spaces for students to write term papers. Our best intentions notwithstanding, students compete for grades, and they need to write in a private wiki space to keep the competitors from seeing what they are doing. That is what Miraheze is all about.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 19:19, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Mu301 I moved it back and got a surprise that led me to this page https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q428973. I was unaware of this wikidata connection. In the past, page moves were easily undone, and my move was made under the misconception that my move could be easily reverted. Obvously that has changed with this new wikidata interaction. Sorry--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 19:26, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
No worries, we live and learn. I would humbly suggest that you refrain from trying to solve a problem for which the scope is not yet well defined. We can't really understand the best path forward until we get a grasp of the cross-wiki issues. Will creating a small number of title pages with numerous subpages interfere with automated discovery and indexing of our resources? (just to give one example that I'm looking into) I'm relieved that the move back was automatically fixed.[3] but this may not have happened if the page rename occured before wikidata discovered the resource. It appears to be self healing once it "knows" to watch a page. New page creation is one area where things could break if we use non-standard (wikimedia definition) conventions for organizing our resources. I admire your enthusiasm and certainly don't want to dampen your boldness. I'm just asking for a short amount of time to learn and then explain what the consequences of our decisions are. Incidentally, this new scheme is a far more sophisticated version of w:Template:Wikiversity to draw attention to our resources. If we get this right it will reduce the effort needed to maintain those cross-wiki links. --mikeu talk 20:04, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
If you are referring to my moving of pages, I agree with you 100% about my need to refrain myself. But can you think of any harm in my creating the four card-suit pages? Keep in mind, that my prime focus is on getting private spaces for people to write "in secret". A couple of years ago I began to research private wikis in an effort to develop a proposal for the WMF. Then I discovered Miraheze, who solve most (but not all) of my problems. Researchers can use something like https://wikiversity.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page to cooperate on publications, and students can use what I call a "wiki-farm-node" that consists of 100 private wikis that students can "borrow" for one of my classes: https://wright.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page. Conclusion/request: So unless you advise otherwise, I will continue to play with Spades and the other three suits which I "grabbed" someone in the spirit of those who "grabbed" internet domain names in order to sell them (though I will have trouble selling them to Wikiversarians!). But I will cease and desist on page moves till we get this figured out.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 20:21, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I was only referring to existing learning resource page moves. I don't see any problem with creating the "deck of cards" pages to experiment with. However, you should keep in mind future name collisions. Currently there is a redirect from "w:♥" to "w:Heart (symbol)" but no wikidata item. At some point in the future (if ♥ gets created at wikidata) you might need to manually disentangle automatically created cross-links to "Unicode Character 'BLACK HEART SUIT' (U+2665)" to clarify that our resource is using the symbol for a different concept. I doubt anyone is going to link those symbols cross wiki in the near future. I'm just pointing out that even this trivial example could have repercussions that we can't predict. --mikeu talk 21:08, 3 January 2018 (UTC) THANKYOU!Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 21:11, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

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## Notes to self:

2400

• error in power
• momentum not defined
• fT=0 omega t = 2\pi list f and T as symbols.
• fluid statics pbg goes to obj for object.

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## Boubaker Polynomials/Wikipedia

Regarding [4], does Boubaker Polynomials/Wikipedia and subpages still serve a purpose? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:08, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

No. Not in my opinion.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 23:41, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

## Misnested Tags

See Special:LintErrors/misnested-tag. You can't have line breaks (hidden paragraph marks) in the middle of a span. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:53, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

This might take a few iterations to fix. I am looking at https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=QB%2Fd_cp2.13&type=revision&diff=1892309&oldid=1891589, where it seems that only a linebreak right after the span was corrected. I will fix that flaw and see if my code stops the violations. The worst case scenario is that I remove the span style and show the reader all the renditions. I can live with that, but first let's see if fixing only the place where you corrected does the trick. I will keep you updated on this page and report back in a few minutes.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 23:39, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

### Attempting to fix at one quiz

See QB/d_cp2.13 and its history: I think I fixed it.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 00:05, 30 June 2018 (UTC) Done

That works. span and end span have to be on the same line. Typically, I'll move an opening div to the next line. spans are an inline style. By default, divs are a block style, forcing a line break. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:42, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
The span was for a {{cot}} {{cob}} template pair. My software might someday be used for a private wiki so I replaced the templates with wikitext (html-tags). I have some other codes that might create such errors, but will try to watch for the problem.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 01:47, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

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