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Is soliciting donations in linked pages allowed?[edit]

Once I linked from a Wikiversity page to my project page which contained among other a link to page accepting PayPal.

I was required by somebody to make the PayPal donations page not (indirectly) linked from Wikiversity saying something about "no soliciting".

Today I searching Wikiversity for "no soliciting" and found no such rule.

So, can a Wikiversity page link to a page with "Donate" link?

--VictorPorton (discusscontribs) 11:09, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

@VictorPorton: No, a Wikiversity page cannot link to a "Donate" link. See Wikiversity:External links. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:51, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig: I am not going to put a "donate" link on a Wikiversity page. I want to link to a project page which in turn links to a donate page. Wikiversity:External links seems to say nothing about this issue. --VictorPorton (discusscontribs) 18:53, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
@VictorPorton: External links does address this. It describes the type of content and the value that content must provide in order to be linked. An exception would be if the recipient of the Donate link on that page is you. In that case, it is a conflict of interest and not appropriate. As an alternative, if you own the content, you can post it here and eliminate the need for linking. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:37, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
I agree with Dave on this. There are plenty of places where Dontate Links are allowed. Let's not let Wikiversity be one of those. If the policy on this is not clear, then we need to make it clear.Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 21:46, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
I disagree with Guy and Dave. Traditional universities offer a path for people to increase the comforts in their life. This wiki should be no different. Spam and promotion to the detriment of others should rightly be not allowed. Self promotion which is mutually beneficial to both teachers and learners (and researchers and learners) should be allowed. Of course, policies and guidelines on this wiki should be respected. That does not mean that they should not be changed through a new consensus that could motivate real exponential growth in the amount of useful/educational content on this wiki. Michael Ten (discusscontribs) 23:26, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
@Michael Ten: This isn't just Wikiversity policy, it's Wikimedia policy. See wmf:Terms of Use. Users may not solicit for any promotional or commercial purpose not explicitly approved by the Wikimedia Foundation. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:05, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

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Birgit Müller (WMDE) 14:45, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Bot moved lots of content pages to draft namespace? OK? Good? Not helpful?[edit]

The Draft namespace had a lot of pages from the main namespace moved to it by MaintenanceBot. Was this intentional? It seems a lot of the pages that were in the main namespace seemed just fine in the main namespace. Is it the consensus that these are better moved to draft namespace? Should most or all of them be bulk moved back into the main namespace? What do you think?

https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Art&action=history

"(MaintenanceBot moved page Art to Draft:Art without leaving a redirect: Per Wikiversity:Requests for Deletion#Main Page "Lectures")"

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MaintenanceBot

Cheers and have a great weekend! Michael Ten (discusscontribs) 23:22, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

See Wikiversity:Requests for Deletion#Main Page "Lectures". The pages were not fine as main space pages. Their presence and approach prevented participation rather than encouraging it. The pages could be cleaned up and used as subpages of appropriate learning projects, but so far no one has been interested in doing that cleanup work. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
FYI: see Wikiversity talk:Requests for Deletion#Draft ns discussion. These moves were not voluntary and do not have consensus. Feel free to add your opinion! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 17:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
User:Marshallsumter You called everyone possible to the discussion a month ago. It's closed, over, done. It's time to accept that the community has agreed that the pages were not suitable as main page landing pages. Rather than continuing to tilt at this windmill, I would encourage you to step back and consider why there was consensus to move these pages, and how future editing efforts might be improved to avoid similar discussions and outcomes in the future. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:43, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Adolf Hitler[edit]

I want to start a page on him if possible. thanks. --74.124.128.224 (discuss) 17:43, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Subpages for Template namespace[edit]

It seems common sense that the Template namespace should have subpages enabled, so that documentation subpages are not counted as templates. If no one opposes, I'll request the change in Phabricator, cheers! --Felipe (discusscontribs) 12:51, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@Sophivorus: Can you give an example of where this count is noted and what the impact is? Yes, it would be common sense not to count /doc pages as templates, but there are also many templates that have template subpages. Template:Subpages is one example. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:58, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

MathML rendering not working on some pages[edit]

Duplicate record detection, for instance, is showing UNIQ tokens instead of the rendered data they refer to. e.g. "UNIQ--postMath-00000014-QINU". Is this a known issue? It seems possibly related to T127738. -- Sehrgut (discusscontribs) 16:19, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

@Sehrgut: I corrected Duplicate record detection. It's an error related to Lua processing of citations. See User:Dave Braunschweig/sandbox for a reproducible example. Feel free to create a Phabricator request based on the example. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:37, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Boubaker Polynomials/Wikipedia/SPI[edit]

My homewiki is the English Wikipedia, so forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but Boubaker Polynomials/Wikipedia/SPI seems to misplaced in mainspace. Is someone able to relocate it as appropriate? TheDragonFire (discusscontribs) 15:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC)