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Update on the consultation about office actions[edit]

Hello all,

Last month, the Wikimedia Foundation's Trust & Safety team announced a future consultation about partial and/or temporary office actions. We want to let you know that the draft version of this consultation has now been posted on Meta.

This is a draft. It is not intended to be the consultation itself, which will be posted on Meta likely in early September. Please do not treat this draft as a consultation. Instead, we ask your assistance in forming the final language for the consultation.

For that end, we would like your input over the next couple of weeks about what questions the consultation should ask about partial and temporary Foundation office action bans and how it should be formatted. Please post it on the draft talk page. Our goal is to provide space for the community to discuss all the aspects of these office actions that need to be discussed, and we want to ensure with your feedback that the consultation is presented in the best way to encourage frank and constructive conversation.

Please visit the consultation draft on Meta-wiki and leave your comments on the draft’s talk page about what the consultation should look like and what questions it should ask.

Thank you for your input! -- The Trust & Safety team 08:03, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

New tools and IP masking[edit]

14:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Uncategorized pages[edit]

Hi. I recently filed a bot request (at Wikiversity:Bots/Status#DannyS712 bot) about tagging pages that are uncategorized. What does the community think about what pages should be tagged? Thanks, --DannyS712 (discusscontribs) 15:12, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm confused about what value this would add versus Special:UncategorizedPages. Would the tagging system somehow make a different or better list than this special page? —Justin (koavf)TCM 15:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
It would make it easier to deal with uncategorized pages. Special:UncategorizedPages is cached, so it doesn't always reflect the current status. It also cannot easily be parsed by external tools. --DannyS712 (discusscontribs) 01:23, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

In viewing the current 4146 pages in Special:UncategorizedPages, about 50 % or more are from our paid editors conducting classes here at Wikiversity. The others are scattered contributions from new editors over time. I'm not sure it's worth even a bots time? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 15:36, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

@Marshallsumter: "our paid editors" is an inappropriate description. Wikiversity isn't paying them, so they are not "our paid editors". I am not aware of anyone being paid to edit Wikiversity at this time, so they are also not "our paid editors". Some users may be paid to teach a class, but there isn't any institution that would require that Wikiversity be used to teach that class. By comparison, there have been contributors who have tried to be paid for editing Wikiversity in the past. All solicitation links were removed, and the users were warned and/or their accounts were blocked. This community does not support paid editing. We "set learning free". -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:22, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: I appreciate you being willing to use your bot to improve Wikiversity. I think there are least two different situations with uncategorized pages. There are uncategorized main (landing) pages, and there are uncategorized subpages. I don't have a problem with adding {{Uncategorized}} to landing pages, as long as the bot also reviews all pages that have that tag to ensure that any that do have another category have the tag removed.

Tagging subpages is more challenging. Subpages are generally associated with a particular course. I don't think adding {{Uncategorized}} to these pages would add value. We could add {{CourseCat}} to put them in the course category, but that will create a number of missing course categories that would need to be added. Perhaps that's a good thing, and could then be cleaned up relatively quickly.

I'm less concerned about the caching of the report, unless you are using the report to add categories and the caching is getting in your way. If you are using Python, there are relatively easy ways to parse Special:UncategorizedPages. If that is something that would be helpful, please let me know. ~~ Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:37, 14 September 2019 (UTC)