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"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination embraces the entire world, stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution." — Albert Einstein (discuss)

Help for an English translation of the summary of my PdD thesis[edit source]


Here is a link to the summary of my PhD thesis in English. If anyone has the time to improve this translation made with an automatic translator without changing the meaning of what is written, it would be great. Thanks in advance! Lionel Scheepmans Contact (French native speaker) 12:52, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

YesY Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:05, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, it's perfect @Dave Braunschweig Lionel Scheepmans Contact (French native speaker) 15:37, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Desktop design and usability improvements[edit source]

I just watched the Wikimania talk on the upcoming desktop design and usability improvements (youtube video; mediawiki page). The interface they're working on looks like a good (though slightly conservative) improvement. You can turn it on in tour appearances settings via unticking "Use Legacy Vector". They asked if any additional wikis would be interested in having it activated as the default. What do ppl think about volunteering this wiki for that? I'd be happy to have it as our default (especially for non-logged-in users). T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 06:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed this and tried it. Some aspects are certainly an improvement in layout and space utilization. Some other aspects will take a little getting used to. I'd really prefer to see search on the right rather than center-left. If this is definitely the future and our current setting is legacy, I'd be okay with turning this on as the default. Anyone who wants the legacy view can turn it back on. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 03:04, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment notification[edit source]

Here is a link to a RFC on Meta concerning all Wikimedia projects. Lionel Scheepmans Contact (French native speaker) 22:55, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wrestling moves?[edit source]

Can I add some? Im confused about this wiki, sorry.

-- (discuss) 23:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but, it needs to be something different than what can be found at Wikipedia:Wrestling. Start with Wrestling. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:57, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January[edit source]

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Disable IP Editing[edit source]

The Portuguese Wikipedia community decided to turn off IP editing in October 2020. See meta:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Impact report for Login Required Experiment on Portuguese Wikipedia for details and the results of this experiment.

Is this something the English Wikiversity would like to try? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:46, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft article - suitable for Wikiversity?[edit source]

Hi - I've been working on a draft article on wikipedia, currently visible at, but have been advised on wikipedia's live chat that it is more suited for wikiversity. Is my draft suitable for wikiversity, and if so, how can it be transferred appropriately? -- (discuss) 02:04, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome! Imported to Draft:Libraries and sustainability. Please consider creating a user account and logging in. It makes it easier to communicate with you going forward. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Is there a mechanism like Wikipedia's peer review here by which I can seek feedback on my work before moving it from 'Draft' to the plain Libraries and sustainability? -- (discuss) 05:18, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What you have already is good enough for main space. If you want it officially published in a WikiJournal, they have a peer review process. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Results for the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election[edit source]

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Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2021 Board election. The Elections Committee has reviewed the votes of the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, organized to select four new trustees. A record 6,873 people from across 214 projects cast their valid votes. The following four candidates received the most support:

  1. Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
  2. Victoria Doronina
  3. Dariusz Jemielniak
  4. Lorenzo Losa

While these candidates have been ranked through the community vote, they are not yet appointed to the Board of Trustees. They still need to pass a successful background check and meet the qualifications outlined in the Bylaws. The Board has set a tentative date to appoint new trustees at the end of this month.

Read the full announcement here. Xeno (WMF) (discusscontribs) 01:56, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Project idea: massively multilingual simple texts[edit source]

This follows a discussion on Reddit about translating LingQ stopies into Latin. The object is to help language learners to learn reading with many short, simple texts, with core volcabulary, preferably with translations in their native language; that is, comprehensible input.

It struck me that it would be quite an achievable project for Wikiversity or Wikibooks, perhaps in collaboration with Tatoeba, as they are great with translating lots of content, and could reuse the sentences, if done in such a way as most or all of the sentences stood on their own, or as pairs. --JimKillock (discusscontribs) 11:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JimKillock: Yes, that would be a good learning project. See Template:Translations for how to add subpages with language translations for a given page. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:26, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Dave Braunschweig: Thanks very much for the template advice. Latin is missing from the template list, do just add it to the list on the Template page? Or is there more that needs to be done? --JimKillock (discusscontribs) 09:14, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@JimKillock: I think you can just use /la for Latin and the template will work correctly. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:27, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I did edit the template, as la was not listed. I have a test page here: Easy Readers and I have reached out to Tatoeba. I guess someone will need to write some stories or dialogues next! --JimKillock (discusscontribs) 15:49, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@JimKillock: You might consider starting with something like Wikisource:Portal:Nursery rhymes. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:07, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Dave Braunschweig: Good idea,but it will probably easier to write the dialongues from scratch so the setence pairs can stand alone – that is important for the Tatoeba project. They have done one already! --JimKillock (discusscontribs) 11:01, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A new Colloquium?[edit source]

Hi, I'm a new user, and I just want to ask, is it possible to create a new Colloquium? [[User:Twilight222|User:Twilight Sparkle 222]] (discusscontribs) 13:23, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Twilight Sparkle 222: What is the basis of this question? What is it you want to change? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:27, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Dave Braunschweig: I just want to make another place where users can ask questions. It will be called "Wikivershelp Center". Is it good enough, and is it possible? [[User:Twilight222|User:Twilight Sparkle 222]] (discusscontribs) 15:23, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Twilight Sparkle 222: We already have Wikiversity:Help Desk and Wikiversity:Request custodian action for questions. If you'd like to create a redirect from Wikiversity: Help Center to Wikiversity:Help Desk, please feel free to do so. Otherwise, creating one more place for people to monitor questions adds more work for volunteers without adding apparent value. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Dave Braunschweig: I guess you're right. It will be a lot of work, and it's not really necessary. Thank you. And also, what is a redirect? [[User:Twilight222|User:Twilight Sparkle 222]] (discusscontribs) 10:08, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Twilight Sparkle 222: See mw:Help:Redirects. Also, please correct your signature. It has extra [[ and ]] in it that shouldn't be there. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:23, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done! Thank you Dave! Twilight222 (discusscontribs) 21:31, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021[edit source]

Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

  • Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
  • Are ready to find compromises.
  • Focus on inclusion and diversity.
  • Have knowledge of community consultations.
  • Have intercultural communication experience.
  • Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
  • Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030(_AT_) with questions.

This message may have been sent previously - please note that the deadline for candidate submissions was extended and candidacies are still being accepted until 14 September 2021. Xeno (WMF) 17:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Server switch[edit source]

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (discuss) 00:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talk to the Community Tech[edit source]

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As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.



The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (discuss) 03:04, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

French[edit source]

Can you help me understand and speak French I love it language and one day dream of going to Paris France please help me.

-- (discuss) 17:11, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See French. You might also check the French Wikiversity. I personally prefer something like Duolingo for language learning, which is also free (but not open). -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:10, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Movement Charter Drafting Committee - Community Elections to take place October 11 - 24[edit source]

Hello all; I'm including the short version of this full announcement below. Please let me know if you have any questions. Xeno (WMF) (discusscontribs) 03:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a short message with an update from the Movement Charter process. The call for candidates for the Drafting Committee closed September 14, and we got a diverse range of candidates. The committee will consist of 15 members, and those will be (s)elected via a 3-step process:

  • Election process for project communities to elect 7 members of the committee.
  • Selection process for affiliates to select 6 members of the committee.
  • Wikimedia Foundation process to appoint 2 members of the committee.

The community elections will take place between October 11 and October 24. The other process will take place in parallel, so that all processes will be concluded by November 1.

For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030{{{1}}}

Submitting Wikipedia articles[edit source]

I have submitted Edmund I to FAC and it has just passed. I am thinking of submitting it to the WikiJournal of Humanities and I have one question. On a couple of points tnere are comments I was unable to make in the Wikipedia article because I could not cite reliable sources. Is it possible to add personal opionions to Wikipedia articles before submission to the WikiJournal, and if so what is the procedure? Dudley Miles (discusscontribs) 21:11, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dudley Miles: That'll likely be fine. The sister journal WikiJSci has had similar submissions which contain original research/opinion sections. The details depend on whether you're thinking of re-integrating that content back into WP:
  • Some WikiJournal articles have conclusions/perspectives/opinions sections (example) or even large research sections (example) that are omitted from the WP versions: Current short guidelines
  • Alternatively, an article could have original research and opinion woven throughout. The text would likely not be directly copyable back into Wikipedia, however it should be possible to cite the journal article as a source within a WP page with the usual provisos on self-citation.
T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 02:42, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the advice Thomas. There are three points on which I would like to make comments. They would be integrated but form a very small part of the article. I would propose to manually import changes to the Wikipedia version as a result of reviewer comments back into the Wikipedia article. Dudley Miles (discusscontribs) 09:39, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Import[edit source]

Users with rights (Curators, Custodians) are currently able to use Special:Import to import from Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Commons, Simple Wikipedia, and Beta Wikiversity. There is a discussion at Wikivoyage that would require importing an article from there before it is deleted.

According to meta:Help:Import, adding a wiki to import from requires a community discussion and vote. Please indicate whether you support Curators and Custodians being able to import from Wikivoyage. If there are other wikis we should add while we're requesting, please note that in discussion. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:00, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit source]

I'm sometimes asked to help with translations which could be better performed here by importing the article here, e.g., Messel Pit, which is rich with fossil descriptions, on the German Wikipedia. The additional coverage could then be added to the English Wikipedia articles, e.g., Messel Formation or Messel pit. Perhaps confirmed users should be allowed to import rather than having to request a Curator, Custodian or Bureaucrat to do it. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 06:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vote[edit source]

Importer[edit source]

According to meta:Importer, an alternative approach to importing an article from another wiki is to export it and then Upload Import. Upload Import requires being a member of Importer. We don't currently have any importers, and no one has the right to assign someone to the Importer group.

Do we want Bureaucrats or Bureaucrats and Custodians to be able to assign users to the Importer role? Without this role, we need to request stewards to upload import for us. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:18, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit source]

Would there be any issues in Custodians being able to give the Importer rights too? —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 14:31, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
None that I know of. But as I understand it, the process is relatively complex. My guess is that, in practice, this would be similar to the interface administrator or bot rights. While it could be granted to any custodian or curator, it needs to be someone familiar with the technical details (editing XML files, etc.). Since those are currently granted by bureaucrat, I would do the same with importer. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:58, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm curious @Dave Braunschweig: what is a practical use case for uploadimport here on en.wv - when/why would would it make sense over import? e.g., have we already been doing this via stewards? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 14:30, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If we had the ability to uploadimport, we wouldn't need to have individual wiki source discussions like the one above. If there was a one-off request for something like Wikivoyage, or any of the non-English wiki projects, we would be able to process that request without waiting for a community vote and a Phabricator configuration change. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:11, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks, Dave, that makes sense Smiley.svg -- Jtneill - Talk - c 00:28, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I can see how this would be useful even though it could appear to add extra complication of an additional user group, it's simplify processes and spread load more evenly. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 23:13, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vote[edit source]

Let's talk about the Desktop Improvements[edit source]

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Have you noticed that some wikis have a different desktop interface? Are you curious about the next steps? Maybe you have questions or ideas regarding the design or technical matters?

Join an online meeting with the team working on the Desktop Improvements! It will take place on October 12th, 16:00 UTC on Zoom. It will last an hour. Click here to join.


  • Update on the recent developments
  • Sticky header - presentation of the demo version
  • Questions and answers, discussion


The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes will be taken in a Google Docs file. The presentation part (first two points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the talk page or send them to

Olga Vasileva (the team manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) 15:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Draft Guidelines review needs your ideas and opinions[edit source]

Hello, the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Draft Guidelines are open for review and comment. The Drafting Committee will start working on revisions and improvement after October 17, so it will be helpful to provide thoughts before then.

There is also a newly-published abstract that provides an overview of the draft guidelines.

We are also hosting a conversation hour on October 15, 2021 03:00 and 14:00 UTC, as well as another functionary consultation October 7 18:00 UTC (tomorrow).

On behalf of the Drafting Committee, many thanks to everyone who has given ideas so far. We hope to hear from more of you - the Guidelines will be much stronger if more opinions are included. Xeno (WMF) (discusscontribs) 16:55, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Film making[edit source]

How to produce a movie --Nkakha (discusscontribs) 04:29, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nkakha: Have you checked out Film Production? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 06:39, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Visual editor - Interwiki linking[edit source]

It was possible to use the visual editor to add interwiki links - but something seems to have changed and it seems no longer possible? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 06:37, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, for me, Visual Editor has disappeared entirely now on Wikiversity and Wikipedia - anyone else? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:31, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Temporary blip, I think - VE is back. But original question stands about interwiki linking. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:41, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is a Phabricator:T293310 bug report related to VisualEditor linking having recently been broken. It may be related. It looks like User:DannyS712 is familiar with this code. Perhaps he can confirm. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:27, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The code that I broke was fixed - are there any errors in the browser console when you try to interwiki link? DannyS712 (discusscontribs) 21:07, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thankyou Dave Braunschweig and DannyS712 - working again Smiley.svg. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 02:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extension:WikiSEO[edit source]

I'm looking to include meta tags in the citation_* format to WikiJounal pages (see Template:Article Gscholar). However, all < and > are converted to &lt; and &gt;, so doesn't get correctly identified by search engines or index correctly.

It turns out that Extension:WikiSEO directly addresses these problems. Would it be possible to install this extension with $wgMetadataGenerators[] = "Citation"; in the LocalSettings.php? T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 02:16, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This requires a vote and a Phabricator request. While we're at it, please review the Import discussions above which are in a similar situation. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:43, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Voting[edit source]

Movement Strategy Implementation Grants have been re-launched to support Movement Strategy plans[edit source]

Movement Strategy Implementation Grants provide resources and support for implementing strategy plans and ideas. The Movement Strategy and Governance team is available to help. Learn more. Xeno (WMF) (discusscontribs) 15:57, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talk to the Community Tech[edit source]

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We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will begin on 27 October (Wednesday) at 14:30 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.


  • Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
  • Update on the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes
  • Questions and answers


The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

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We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 23:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]