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Unblocks of most TEAM VOLLEYBALL contributors[edit]

Near the beginning of 2015 an IP began creating tables here on Wikiversity in resource space of sports scores. Some of these apparent users were blocked here and on other wikimedia projects. More of the details can be found at Dominant group/Wikiversity.

After more than a year of analysis, I propose that the following TEAM VOLLEYBALL users AdmerOFVolleyball, Agahama, Azylicure 2, Hasfie, JESAAS11, JESSARICAN2, and Lahha 33, be unblocked and allowed to again contribute to Wikiversity.

The percentage of apparent facts (1597/1610) = 99.19 % supports the hypotheses:

  1. These are all registered users at Wikiversity making good-faith edits to perform volleyball history research as their Philippines National High School Rose Mapeh project for a grade.
  2. The sole source of the contention on Wikiversity regarding the uploads for the high school student Rose Mapeh project to record volleyball history research was the lack of communication from the high school Rose Mapeh Advisor Mr. Jose Glonar Armamento that his students had chosen Wikiversity to host their project.

More details and information can be found at apparent facts for unblocks. Unless additional facts indicate otherwise, or there is a strong consensus (75 % of at least four votes or declared opinions) to {{oppose}}, I will unblock these users.

Unless additional facts indicate otherwise, or there is a strong consensus (75 % of at least four votes or declared opinions) to {{ support}}, user Maqwer AsiaWorld should not be unblocked.

Please keep in mind that for counters to the unblock request there may be concerns about disruption or other criticism of many individual points with a number or a minus (-) sign, but it is more than 99 % likely that no other hypothesis matches all the apparent facts this well.

Questions, concerns, considerations and criticisms are most welcome! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 23:24, 27 October 2016 (UTC) {{support}}, {{oppose}}, or {{comment}}

Comments[edit]

Dave Braunschweig[edit]

There are multiple issues with this proposal, but to start with:

  1. This discussion needs to be a Wikiversity:Community Review rather than a discussion in the Colloquium.
  2. The users are blocked per meta:steward CheckUser request.
  3. The review of "apparent facts" appears to be a misuse of Custodian rights, as it includes analysis of deleted pages, an analysis neither requested or agreed to by the community.
  4. Whether or not this was a school project isn't relevant to the reason the user accounts were blocked across multiple wiki projects.
  5. The source of contention was hundreds of disruptive edits, created by a user or users who failed to respond to literally dozens of attempts by multiple custodians and other users over a period of months to help them work productively at Wikiversity.
  6. There is no definition of consensus that allows a custodian to state ahead of time that any given number or percentage of users must oppose a proposal, and anyone this invested in the effort would have great difficulty in showing that they are capable of impartial treatment in the matter. The determination of consensus and response must be left to an uninvolved custodian or bureaucrat.
  7. There is no request from any of the blocked users to unblock their accounts. Absent a request from one or more of the users involved, there is no benefit for the community to invest time and effort in this review.

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:18, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 04:56, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Votes or opinions[edit]

1. TEAM VOLLEYBALL users AdmerOFVolleyball, Agahama, Azylicure 2, Hasfie, JESAAS11, JESSARICAN2, and Lahha 33, be unblocked and allowed to again contribute to Wikiversity.

Without objections from any uninvolved bureaucrats, custodians, curators, or users, all of the students mentioned for unblock are now unblocked for each or any of the following reasons.
  1. Analysis shows user was not a sock puppet.
  2. Analysis shows user was not abusing multiple accounts.
  3. Analysis shows user was not engaging in repeat disruptive editing of pages. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 12:44, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

2. USER Maqwer AsiaWorld SHOULD BE UNBLOCKED

Community Review - Volleyball[edit]

A Wikiversity:Community Review has been created to determine community consensus regarding issues related to the Sport/Volleyball learning project, and the actions of User:Dave Braunschweig and User:Marshallsumter in regard to this project and these users. Issues include:

  1. What is Wikiversity?
  2. What Wikiversity is not
  3. Wikiversity:Blocking policy
  4. Wikiversity:Custodianship and Deletion Review
  5. Wikiversity Structure
  6. Template: Namespace
  7. Wikiversity:Consensus

Please review this page and provide your perspective regarding the appropriate direction for Wikiversity content and administration. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:54, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

What got MrABlair123 so many students?[edit]

You may have noticed... I've been working on the Human Legacy Course in the past few days, and I've also been fishing around in mathematics. I'm asking, how did Mr. Blair get so many students to join his course? If anyone knows the answer, please do tell.. I really need help on this history course, but not so many people around me in real life are interested in putting time (pinging User:GodzGuy01 and User:Alex29843279837459) ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:56, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Did you ask him directly?--Juandev (discusscontribs) 07:04, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
I previously assumed that he wouldn't answer an email because of how long he is gone (he might've changed emails), but I guess, why not give it a shot? ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 11:55, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
I recommend reviewing Mr. Blair's talk page and account status before pursuing this. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:19, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Password reset[edit]

I apologise that this message is in English. ⧼Centralnotice-shared-help-translate⧽

We are having a problem with attackers taking over wiki accounts with privileged user rights (for example, admins, bureaucrats, oversighters, checkusers). It appears that this may be because of weak or reused passwords.

Community members are working along with members of multiple teams at the Wikimedia Foundation to address this issue.

In the meantime, we ask that everyone takes a look at the passwords they have chosen for their wiki accounts. If you know that you've chosen a weak password, or if you've chosen a password that you are using somewhere else, please change those passwords.

Select strong passwords – eight or more characters long, and containing letters, numbers, and punctuation. Joe Sutherland (discuss) / MediaWiki message delivery (discusscontribs) 23:59, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Adding to the above section (Password reset)[edit]

Please accept my apologies - that first line should read "Help with translations!". Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) / MediaWiki message delivery (discusscontribs) 00:11, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Magic Links Deprecated[edit]

Magic links have been deprecated in favor of templates such as {{ISBN}}. Pages that were using ISBN magic links have been updated to use the ISBN template instead. One of the advantages of this approach is that the template identifies pages with ISBN errors. Users who have ISBN references in their resources should check this list and make any necessary corrections. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:57, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, Maintenancebot work, and the category! All errors have been removed from resources on my watchlist! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 22:02, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikidebates for all[edit]

@Koavf, KATMAKROFAN, Michael Ten, Dave Braunschweig: Hi! I'd like to add the initialization code for the Wikidebate project to MediaWiki:Common.js. The Wikidebate project is slowly growing, but its greatest current limitation is that the script for calculating the status of the arguments in the debates only runs for users that enable the Wikidebate gadget or click on the link provided on each wikidebate. Many users will never see the link or click it, and will thus miss the opportunity to understand the nature of the project, and even if they do click it, they will have to do it again on each wikidebate they visit, which is annoying. The initialization code I want to add to MediaWiki:Common.js can be found here. As you can see, there are two checks in place to ensure the full script is only requested when necessary, so the load on the servers is minimal. I have the necessary rights and skills to add the code myself. What do you think? Cheers! --Felipe (discusscontribs) 13:54, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

  • @Felipe Schenone: I am all for it. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:25, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
  • Seems really interesting. Wikidebate is a great, involved learning project that I'd like to see more participation in. Though, I have my projects too, which I contribute to, which prevents me from contributing to Wikidebate (some of the projects I have Speak Math Now!/Week 1: Introduction To Algebra and the Human Legacy Course). ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 20:11, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
  • The code appears to be well-written and minimally invasive. I don't have a problem with you adding the code, but please do it using importScript(), similar to the other common.js add-ins listed there. Regarding the Wikidebate project design overall, please see and comment on Wikiversity:Community Review/Volleyball#5. Wikiversity Structure. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:18, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
    @Dave Braunschweig: The code is hosted at Commons, and importScript only loads local scripts. I could copy the code to Wikiversity, but soon I will spread Wikidebate to other wikis (starting with the Spanish Wikiversity) so keeping the code centralized is desirable. --Felipe (discusscontribs) 21:39, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
    Sorry, perhaps I wasn't as specific as I should have been. For the code you intend to add here that will call mw.loader.load(), please call it using importScript() so we can keep common.js relatively clean and easy to follow. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:00, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
    Understood. About Wikiversity:Community Review/Volleyball#5. Wikiversity Structure, I'm thinking about it and will comment soon, but right now I could mention that the issues could be discussed using the wikidebate mechanism, which can now run on any page or section (even talk pages). Food for thought, cheers! --Felipe (discusscontribs) 00:06, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

YesY Done --Felipe (discusscontribs) 00:06, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Is it possible to add a "Math" icon onto the advanced toolbar?[edit]

As we have an icon for big, so when you highlight a word, and click the icon for increasing the size of a text (A+), you will be able to increase the size easily without manually typing <big></big>. It's irritating to have to manually add <math> and </math> to each and every number. Is there a possibility that we can implement a math icon on the advanced toolbar in editing, so that I can highlight a number and click that math icon without having to manually add <math> and </math>? Thanks. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 00:05, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it's possible. See mw:Extension:WikiEditor/Toolbar customization. Perhaps User:Felipe Schenone already knows how to do this. I could look into it further, but probably not until mid to late December. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:49, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
@Atcovi: Copy the following code to your common.js and look at the Advanced section of your toolbar, cheers! --Felipe (discusscontribs) 14:09, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
$( '#wpTextbox1' ).on( 'wikiEditor-toolbar-doneInitialSections', function () {
	$( '#wpTextbox1' ).wikiEditor( 'addToToolbar', {
		'section': 'advanced',
		'group': 'format',
		'tools': {
			'math': {
				label: 'Math',
				type: 'button',
				icon: '//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Button_Math.png',
				action: {
					type: 'encapsulate',
					options: {
						pre: "<math>",
						post: "</math>"
					}
				}
			}
		}
	});
});

RevisionSlider[edit]

The mw:Extension:RevisionSlider is now available under Special:Preferences. The slider allows quick comparisons of page edit history going back for up to 50 edits. It is only visible when comparing pages diffs. Consider enabling this beta feature if you regularly review and compare edits. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 22:52, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Slovio[edit]

Hello! this learning project needs participants.--Πανεπιστήμιο (discusscontribs) 19:31, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Help test offline Wikipedia[edit]

Hello! The Reading team at the Foundation is looking to support readers who want to take articles offline to read and share later on their phones - a use case we learned about from deep research earlier this year. We’ve built a few prototypes and are looking for people who would be interested in testing them. If you’d like to learn more and give us feedback, check out the page on Meta! Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 20:08, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

Wikiversiy[edit]

I want to what u really do on wikiversity.Javaune Francis (discusscontribs) 18:01, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Welcome! See Wikiversity:What is Wikiversity? and Help:Guides to get started. Let us know what additional questions you have. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:24, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

JavaScript Problems[edit]

Anyone else noticing JavaScript problems (no toolbar when editing, no VisualEditor, etc.)? It doesn't appear to impact anonymous users, but I've tried three different browsers on a couple of different platforms and it doesn't seem to be working for me.

It would help to have others confirm or not, so we can try to figure out what code is causing the problem. It might be custodians/bureaucrats only, or only two-factor authenticated users, or users with a certain gadget turned on, etc.

I checked with Stewards, and they confirmed that it wasn't working logged in for at least one of them. I started phab:T152067 for this.

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 04:42, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Reported in the issue tracker as phab:T152067. --AKlapper (WMF) (discusscontribs) 13:01, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

One of the issues was related to Move the Edit Link [1]. As far as I can tell, this code is no longer necessary. I've removed it. Let me know if you see any user interface differences regarding Edit links. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:48, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Automatic math numbering and referring[edit]

What is the suggested way to refer equations on Wikiversity? How can I add labels to equations and place references to them?

--Tuzesdaniel (discusscontribs) 15:57, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Welcome! I don't think we have a standard. I have tried experimenting with numbering equations, but every system has faults. I vaguely recall a template that puts numbers to the right, but I don't think they are automatically numbered, meaning you have to redo everything every time you add or remove an equation. I wish they had that Latex system where equations are "named" and referred to by name, and Latex does all the rest. Some Wikipedia articles place the number in front of the equation, and I strongly endorse that practice. There is no reason to force wikitext to look like Latex. For the most part, I try to avoid numbers altogether, and rely on section headings. There are simple ways to refer to those (e.g., using #sectionheader links). My philosophy is that simplicity and convenience trumps professional appearance.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 08:34, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Noticeboard, maybe?[edit]

WV:Candidates for Custodianship/Atcovi4 ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 01:34, 7 December 2016 (UTC)