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COVID-19[edit source]

See User:Ottawahitech/covid. Let us know if you have any other questions or issues. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:56, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much Dave Braunschweig. I came here after being told that I could not add my covid-19 information to a similar subpage in my userspace on meta, and was considering leaving wmf sites altogether. I promise I will try not to upset this project but since I don't seem to sense when my edits cause negative disruption, I would truly appreciate it if you yourself will tell me when I do. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (discusscontribs) 15:27, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig: Due to my continuing difficulties elsewhere on wmf-sites, I would appreciate your personal assurances. Will you inform me in the event that my edits here turn out to be upsetting to some for whatever reason, and provide me an opportunity to take my research elsewhere before it is deleted? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (discusscontribs) 08:01, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
You're likely to know before I do if your content turns out to be upsetting. But you can add Wikiversity:Requests for deletion and Wikiversity:Request custodian action to your watch list if you'd like to keep an eye out for discussions like that. What I can assure you is that deleted content isn't really deleted, only hidden. Custodians can still access it. Should any content be deleted, I can send you a copy of it so you can take it elsewhere. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
I am starting to appreciate why wmf-projects want to keep me out, sorry I am imposing on you again @Dave Braunschweig: but it is probably not that simple. The content on my user subpage has been edited by 6 different users (see ), so copyrights kick in and you can no longer send me the contents of my own user page once it has been deleted. Sure it is a technicality, but one that is zealously guarded by the wmf.
Of course it could have all been avoided if I had not been kicked off the wmf-site where this content had originated, but wiki works in mysterious ways... Sorry again for hassling you. Ottawahitech (discusscontribs) 13:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
I don't have any problem sending you a copy of your page. It's not a copyright issue for me if I don't publish it. What you do with it after that is your problem.
Quite frankly, your approach is starting to seem a bit paranoid. Perhaps justifiably so based on how you've been treated elsewhere, but at Wikiversity it's usually more effective to just focus on your research and try not to draw too much attention otherwise. Don't give people a reason to question what you are doing. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:12, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you[edit source]

Thanks for taking the time, @Dave Braunschweig:, I truly appreciate your involvement in this matter, and I really hope that my experience on wikiversity will not end up as it did on the 3 other wmf-wikis.

Yes I am paranoid, and so are the vast majority of enwiki editors. How else would you explain why no one objected to the 2007 blocking of the non-admin editor who came to my defense when I was blocked? How else would you explain the bullying of the one friendly admin who helped me get unblocked in 2007? How about the removal of all content of my user page by an admin after I was blocked in 2017? Why wasn't my user page restored immediately after it was vandalized by a this well-meaning admin? As of today there are still 86 users watching my user page on enwiki and it is obvious that many were aware it was vandalized, so why did no one do anything about it until a relative newbie editor restored it almost 8 months later, seemingly without any incident?

I could go on and on, but the point I would really like to make is that I believe my experience is far from unique, unfortunately. Not drawing attention seems to work for some people but not for others. Even though many en-wikipedians are not aware of the problem, most admins will admit publicly that they are stalked on a regular basis.

I firmly believe that the fear of being blocked is one of the main reasons many are paranoid. I firmly believe that this is many editors are afraid of being blocked and this is one of the main reasons many are paranoid. But However, I am basing this opinion on my anecdotal experience, and would like to find ways of establishing this on verifiable statistics. So here comes my question: Is wikiversity the right place to start a research project on the topic of blocked wikimedians? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (discusscontribs) 17:16, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikiversity can be a a place for wiki research. But please be careful. Most people who undertake this type of research do not have an unbiased perspective and end up escalating both the problem and their problems. The last one who did this ended up globally banned (and justifiably so).
My strong recommendation to you would be to focus on other research efforts or learning projects first and work toward being a productive member of the Wikiversity community. At some point in the future, when you have a more positive track record, you might come back to this type of wiki research.
If and when you do come back to it, make sure your efforts are toward improving future wiki experiences for all rather than documenting past mistakes as you see them. Dwelling on the past is likely to trigger a "net negative effect", resulting in a block.
As I suggested above, "just focus on your research and try not to draw too much attention otherwise. Don't give people a reason to question what you are doing." So far, you have not heeded this advice. Move on to something else and keep your head down for awhile. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:59, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Confirmation[edit source]

Hello, I undid my action as I see you accepted the edit from that IP before, if this is not your non-login edit, please feel free to undo mine. --Hamish (discusscontribs) 14:12, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

@Hamish: I know you mean well, however I would appreciate it if you do not edit my user space. Thanks for your understanding.Ottawahitech (discusscontribs) 08:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
No problem, sorry for any inconvenience. --Hamish (discusscontribs) 10:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Wikispore licensing request[edit source]

Hi Ottawahitech. Can you sign up at wikispore:Talk:Copyrights to verify that your contributions there are under CC-BY-SA 3.0 or a freer license?--Pharos (discusscontribs) 18:55, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ottawahitech, wanted to send you a reminder about this--Pharos (discusscontribs) 18:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for signing onto it, you're not in trouble at all. It's just that we made a mistake in not officially adopting a copyright policy for Wikispore at the beginning, and so now we're asking permissions from the older contributors.--Pharos (discusscontribs) 20:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Category:Examples[edit source]

Do you find Category:Examples helpful? I have 400-500 pages of examples. Pretty much any programming-language resource is going to include examples. Adding Category:Examples to each one doesn't seem to add value to me. Please share how adding this category is useful from your perspective. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:39, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I was trying to be useful, but it appears I created a problem instead.
Just to let you know I have removed all the entries that I have added to Category: Examples and left the old category and its existing items as they were. Not sure what to do with the redirect (Examples of Hello, world!) I created which is not very useful without this category. Regards, Ottawahitech (discusscontribs) 13:31, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Take a look at Wikiversity:Statistics/2020/09 and search for Category:. This gives you a good idea of what users are looking for on Wikiversity. There are 22 categories listed, almost all course, math, science, or computing-related. Example is listed once, and it is as a subpage rather than as a primary search. In other words, users tend to search for (something) examples rather than examples of (something). The Examples of Hello, world! redirect is fine. It certainly does no harm. We can check it in a few months to see if it gets any usage.
There is a list of Category:Wikiversity maintenance items that need attention. Perhaps one or more of those might interest you. Another option would be to focus on some of the top 1,000 pages from Wikiversity:Statistics. That's the content that receives viewers and would most benefit from cleanup or enhancement.
Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:53, 25 October 2020 (UTC)