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Possible next steps?[edit]

What are possible next steps for this project? Timboliu (discusscontribs) 18:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

WikiJournal..try to achieve this...IMO--Ozzie10aaaa (discusscontribs) 11:06, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
@Timboliu: In addition to agreeing with Ozzie, here are some additional suggestions of sensible next steps:
  • Get approved as a full sister project. Not a huge rush, but it would allow a lot more control over e.g. the left-hand menu, the url, perhaps some locking features for published works. Eventually I hope a landing page would be something like this draft, loosely inspired by PLOS's current landing page.
  • Keep Wiki.J.Med growing. Get indexed in Scopus and Pubmed.
  • Build the next core journals. In my opinion, the priorities should be to add two broad journals in order to be sustainable initially: WikiJournal of Science and WikiJournal of Humanities. This requires inviting high-quality submissions. As the journals slowly gain reputation, more and more submissions will come unsolicited. A main hurdle remains the limited number of editors for these new journals. An editorial board of 6-12 for each journal would help spread the labour of inviting articles and organising peer reviews from external experts.
  • Unify the journal preprints systems so that the initial writing stages are as similar as possible for the journals (will reduce admin later on).
These are only my opinions. I think we've recently done well at improving the pitch for becoming a sister project, and developing the overall structure, pillars and bylaws that all the WikiJournals would function under. In many ways, one of the hardest things in the points above is making sure we have enough core editors for each journal to make them sustainable. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 02:24, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
I agree with the above. I've lately been busy with getting the latest Wiki J Med publication done, and I still need to add some material to its ethics draft. After that, I can work further on the overall WikiJournal organization. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 20:06, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
Great! If I can help you with something, please let me know. Regards, Tim, Timboliu (discusscontribs) 14:13, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
@Timboliu: Over the next couple of weeks I'm planning to build some of the necessary pages for Wiki.J.Sci.. I've just made a unified submission page that should allow submissions to the new WikiJournals as they start up. Currently, I think it would benefit from people inviting suitably qualified authors to submit articles for external peer review (e.g. topics not covered in Wikipedia, overhauls of poorly written Wikipedia pages, or submission of well-written GA/FA articles). Would you be interested in hunting down a couple of suitable submissions? I should have the relevant core Wiki.J.Sci. pages ready next weekend. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 05:20, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

DOIs and next year's financing[edit]

I've discovered that the Crossref membership of WikiJournal of Medicine can actually be used to assign DOI codes to articles of multiple journals. For example, we can create DOI codes for the articles in WikiJournal of Science. If we want, we can assign it to the articles of issue 0, or perhaps we want to wait until a peer review system is in place.

This feature changes my mind regarding future financing of WikiJournal. Since the Crossref membership is the main cost of our funding by rapid grants, I think it would be better to apply on the behalf of the entire WikiJournal project instead of for WikiJournal of Medicine.

It's time to start preparing the grant for next year's expenses, so in any case I will now go ahead and register WikiJournal as a non-profit organization in Sweden, so that we can apply for a rapid grant as such an organization. I can take the treasurer position in the grant application, but feel free to nominate yourself of someone else too for it.

Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 19:26, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I've added the recommended DOI structuring at the Starting a journal page. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 19:22, 17 October 2017 (UTC)


Given that Wiki.J.Med has proven the viability of the concept over the last few years, I think that now is a good time to expand the sister journals. Specifically, I think that WikiJournal of Science and WikiJournal of Humanities are the logical next journals to build on. Although they have much broader scope than Wiki.J.Med, I think that having a larger possible pool of potential contributors is useful to starting up. More specialist journals could conceivably follow if the format proves popular enough. I've sent some emails around to people who might be interested in joining the relevant editorial boards, so I hope that a few people will be joining us in the near future. I've done some updates on the Wiki.J.Sci pages and plan to build the infrastructure for Wiki.J.Hum over the next couple of weeks in order to help overcome the activation energy barrier for their development.

There are a few things that I'll need some help with:

  • Since we have no advertising budget, I think that all journals should do a big social media push (though I'm no social media expert)
    • We should tweet at some of the larger academic societies, since I think they are the most likely to retweet, and would reach a larger audience
    • WikiJMed can highlight that there are 10 weeks left to get submissions in to be eligible for the prize (I've updated the advertising poster)
    • Wiki.J.Sci and Wiki.J.Hum can announce as just starting up (perhaps via a unified WikiJournal Twitter & Facebook account?)
  • Can the web address be purchased on the existing Wiki.J.Med. account?
  • Can we make new article submission and contact email addresses (even if they just forward to existing places)
  • Similarly, Wiki.J.Sci. will need a board mailing list (DONE)
  • Do any changes need to be made to the WikiJMed bylaws to make them suitable for WikiJSci?
  • Do we know the Non-profit organization number for WikiJournal user group yet?

I've asked Mikael Häggström for help with some of these, but any help or thoughts appreciated! T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 08:08, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Good ideas Thomas! I've still gotten no reply from the non-profit organization application, but it shouldn't be long now. I'll still be busy for some time with the ethics draft of WikiJMed, and the rapid grants application once the non-profit status is confirmed, but I'd love to help in the expansion later. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 19:27, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
To WikiJMed, I've made a public mailing list for WikiJSci, and a facebook account. I've also made a private WikiJSci board mailing list similar to the WikiJMed version, and board members should have received an email link to join. I've never used twitter before, so I'll have to leave that to someone else! T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 04:08, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Looking good! I have created a Twitter account at - is there a natural e-mail address to use for notifications? Any suggestions, including for the long name (currently Wiki Journal Science) welcome. Presumably we should share access among the editors? Markus Pössel (discusscontribs) 17:46, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
(And yes, if a unified account is needed, it is possible to rename accounts. Just give the word.) Markus Pössel (discusscontribs) 18:01, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Excellent. I's good to have someone who has some social media experience involved. I've also made a WikiJSci Facebook page at [1]. It's similarly possible to make multiple people admins of the FB page. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 01:17, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

@Markus Pössel: It's Open Access week this week, so it might be a good opportunity to make a tweet or two per day about the unique features of the journal. We could even tweet at open-access advocacy groups and scientific societies in the hope that some re-tweet? Examples:

  • Is your research topic absent or poorly covered in Wikipedia? Publish open-access with WikiJournal of Science to update it.
  • Want your paper to reach 100,000 people per year? Works accepted by WikiJournal of Medicine are integrated into Wikipedia for max impact.
  • This open access week, consider submitting to a free, open-access journal like Wiki.J.Sci

I've no idea on twitter ettiquete or writing style, but hopefully the general idea is clear! T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 22:44, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Chiswick Chap, for Wiki.J.Sci[edit]

Thomas Shafee has invited me to join him to help out with Wiki.J.Sci and I'll be pleased to do that. I don't think it will be possible or desirable to remain anonymous in this role so I will work openly here under my real name, Ian Alexander. I've been editing Wikipedia for something over 6 years and I've helped to bring some 150 articles to Good Article status, many of them biological. Lately I have focussed on topics in evolution and its history. When I was working in industry I was lead author on three books on requirements (software and systems engineering), and published over 25 peer-reviewed papers in that domain. I taught many training courses in industry and gave numerous seminars whether at academic conferences or in universities in England, including Lancaster, Westminster, and City University, London where I was a visiting research fellow. My first degree was in natural sciences, and as far as commissioning articles is concerned, I am most interested in improving coverage in biology articles, but am happy to assist in other areas including engineering. Chiswick Chap (discusscontribs) 13:30, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap: In addition to formally supporting your joining the Wiki.J.Sci board, I just wanted to add an extra note to say that I appreciate the significance to relinquishing your anonymity. I realise that it can be a significant change, but I think worthwhile for an endeavour like this. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 03:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)


I'd like to join. :) Megalibrarygirl (discusscontribs) 17:15, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

@Megalibrarygirl: Thanks for your joining the Wiki.J.Hum. editorial board. I'm looking forward to seeing the Humanities journal take off! T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 03:33, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Draft of budget grant[edit]

I've now prepared a draft of the grant application for running this project through 2018: Meta:Grants:Project/Rapid/WikiJournal 2018. Feel free to add ideas and comments. On a side not I'd like to inform that WikiJournal is now a registered non-profit organization in Sweden, since October 23. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 19:43, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

I've now submitted the grant application. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 06:08, 14 November 2017 (UTC)