Talk:WikiJournal/WikiJournal User Group

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Mailing list[edit]

I think it's essential that we create a mailing list and start gathering a user base so that when we publish a new issue, we can email users about it, similar to what The Signpost does. Any thoughts? Any support? Any objections? --Felipe (discusscontribs) 18:48, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

I had a Task at the Phabricator to have my WMF email fixed so that I can send and receive email via the "email this user" feature on the left menu! It now works! Anyone can now email me this way! If you do not want your private email address revealed simply reply using that same feature rather than clicking on "reply"! --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 21:15, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Well, per lack of objections, I requested the mailing list wikijournal-en@lists.wikimedia.org be created at phab:T156739. --Felipe (discusscontribs) 15:19, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! When created, I think it can replace the current public mailing list at: https://groups.google.com/d/forum/wikijournal (reached by emails to
wikijournal@googlegroups.com). Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 17:05, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
The mailing list has been created (https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikijournal-en). :-) @Mikael Häggström: Are you the admin of the other mailing list at Google? If so, are you interested in becoming an admin on this new mailing list? Also, please check the main menu of the WikiJournal of Science, notice the big blue button for subscribing, and please consider if you'd like a similar button in the main menu of the WikiJournal of Medicine. Cheers! --Felipe (discusscontribs) 18:27, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Good work Felipe! Yes, I am admin of the wikijournal@googlegroups.com email. What would be my tasks as an admin of this mailing list? I linked to this mailing list at Talk:WikiJournal of Medicine (in turn linked from the journal's right menu for "updates"). Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 20:54, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
@Mikael Häggström: Awesome, thanks! The general duties of mailing list administration are at meta:Mailing lists/Administration. In order to add you as an admin, I'll need your email. If you subscribe to the list I should be able to see it. --Felipe (discusscontribs) 23:31, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Sure, Felipe, I can be an administrator of this list. I subscribed to it now, so I think you should be able to see my email. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 20:31, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
YesY Done --Felipe (discusscontribs) 00:48, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

The WikiJournal umbrella[edit]

I've updated the WikiJournal users group to include the French language Journal scientifique libre (Free Journal of Science) that was proposed in 2015. I don't know what the likelihood is that it gains critical mass, or even merges with WikiJournal of Science into a multi-language journal. Either way, I think it is useful for WikiJournals to be gathered together to share information. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 08:08, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

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Wright State Showcase logo.png

By renaming the Second Journal of Science to the WikiJournal of Science, this user group clarified the journal's intended scope. And, the clarification created a niche for an new "quasi-journal" that I call the Wright State University Lake Campus/Showcase. I am sole editor and referee, and all my students are required to attempt to publish in Showcase. They do this on, wright.miraheze.org, which hosts private wikis where one and only one individual student writes wikitext on a wiki that cannot be viewed by other students (but I can see the effort in-progress). It is hard to assign letter grades to student efforts if they can "peek" into each other's work in progress. While this is hardly a journal, it is something this group should know about.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 17:47, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

All right. It may still be possible to use the best articles in Showcase for WikiJournal of Science as well. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 11:10, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

User group membership[edit]

I am much in favour of experimentation in this area and have done (and continue to do) a fair bit myself, so I welcome the creation of a user group on the topic. However, whenever I come here to find out more about this user group, I am confused as to why there is no way to sign up as a member of the user group. I might well be interested in becoming a member of the WikiJournal Council, but discussing that should probably not be the first step of engagement of new members with this user group. --Daniel Mietchen (discusscontribs) 06:50, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Daniel! You don't need to sign up anywhere to contribute. In fact, I personally prefer that participants sign up for specific tasks, such as (for WikiJournal of Medicine) reviewers or associate editors. I've notified other Council members about your interest in joining, and I'd welcome your help in any improvement on the overall organization. The main activity, however, is happening in individual journals. Also, if you feel that journal is needed in another subject than medicine or science, you may help in creating such a journal. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 14:20, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Hi again, Daniel! I now added you to the council, after receiving no contention from other members. I thus recommend that you add this page to your watchlist, and add your email at the public mailing list at: https://groups.google.com/d/forum/wikijournal (reached by emails to wikijournal@googlegroups.com). Also, I hope you find something at the Contribute list that interests you. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 05:44, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Mikael — I have subscribed to the mailing list. --Daniel Mietchen (discusscontribs) 05:56, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Advertisements in Wikipedia's Wikiprojects[edit]

Last week I posted advertisements for both Wiki.J.Med and the new Wiki.J.Sci in the pages of several WikiProjects (WJM_advert_2017_Jan, WJS_advert_2017_Jan). Please expect an uptick of interest and submissions. I recommend watching this page, as well as the talk pages Talk:WikiJournal_of_Medicine and Talk:WikiJournal_of_Science. In particular, Wiki.J.Sci is still being established, so clarifying its procedures will be useful. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 04:21, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Great! WikiProjects posted to so far can be seen at the WhatLinksHere of the template. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 13:11, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

A convenient way to link to both original (checked) and latest (not peer-reviewed) versions.[edit]

My efforts have evolved away from a forma journal, to a quick way to "showcase" student efforts. I find the following header on documents ot be useful because I can print out a pdf of the permalink that automatically links to the latest version.

<small>If this is in online [[w:Portable Document Format|PDF]] format, view the wikitext by clicking https:{{SERVER}}/w/index.php?oldid={{REVISIONID}}. "Resource" in upper right corner displays latest version. </small>

placed at the top of the page results in this header:

If this is in online PDF format, view the wikitext by clicking https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?oldid=1655105. "Resource" in upper right corner displays latest version.

To see a sample, download and view this online as a pdf file: https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/File:Talk_WikiJournal_WikiJournal_User_Group_-_Wikiversity.pdf On any browser I have used clicking the top line leads to the permalink. Is that true for your browser?--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 15:18, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it's the same in my browser. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 13:12, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Rename main page to just "WikiJournal"[edit]

This seems like common sense to me. Any objections? I tried to be bold and rename it myself but it seems like an admin will need to do it. --Felipe (discusscontribs) 11:45, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

I would have preferred simply "WikiJournal" as well, but the "User Group" addition is a necessary addition as a Wikimedia User Group which we did try to negotiate ourselves away from (but didn't succeed). However, we may apply for becoming a "thematic organization", perhaps this year or the next, and in that case we may not need to display the "User Group" any more. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 13:30, 1 February 2017 (UTC)