Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/DannyS712 (interface administrator)

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Closed as successful, with time limitations -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 15:45, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to request longer-term interface adminship. I wanted to go remove the use of wgMonthNames which is deprecated from User:Adambro/AjaxQuickDelete.js, and realized that they had expired again. See also Wikiversity:Notices for custodians#Temporary interface adminship requested (once more) - never resolved because the rights expired before anyone responded.

See Wikiversity:Interface administrators for more information. I

Have 2FA enabled
Am familiar with the guidelines
Am requesting this for longer than just 2 weeks, so opening a discussion

Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 19:56, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Questions

Why now request for 2wks, you would have done that before it had expired. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marshallo Press (talk • contribs) 21:55, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't understand the question. If "wks" means "weeks", I'm not requesting for 2 weeks, and if it means "wikis", I'm only requesting here --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 23:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
How do I get out of edit source and edit in a more user friendly way? (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Francisyoshimoto (talk • contribs) 03:19, 9 May 2020 (UTC))[reply]
I'm afraid I don't understand the question. Other than editing in the editor, how else would you edit? --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 05:29, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I don't have a problem with any of the user interface edits DannyS12 has made. That said, I have several comments / concerns:
1. The request is open-ended. Up to this point, the community has agreed to terminate interface administration after a period of time. The reason this role was implemented was because it is a security risk. No matter how well-intentioned, something that is open by default is more of a risk than something that requires oversight to be implemented.
2. Many or most interface edits can be tested in personal space, meaning that global user interface edits shouldn't require a great deal of time. Longer-term editing, which to me is more than a day or so, means that the edits are not fully planned to start with, or the problem is not fully understood and the solution not fully agreed to before implementation began.
3. There is an assumption in the request that ties together extended rights and a lack of response to discussion. A lack of response to discussion is likely either apathy or disagreement. If it's apathy, the discussion wasn't effective in engaging participation. If it is disagreement, the discussion wasn't persuasive. Either of these isn't a reason to extend user rights. It's a reason to improve discussion before extending rights.
- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 20:59, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the feedback
  1. I'm requesting that this be longer-term, but not permanent. Wikispecies limits it to 1 year (species:Wikispecies:Interface administrators)
  2. Yes, not all edits are planned now. I may try to develop a gadget or two? Edits themselves are individually planned before making them (except in the course of developing scripts, which is done in the user space)
  3. The lack of response implies that things take longer; I stopped pursuing the issue when I was no longer able to implement anything.
  Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 21:25, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Again it looks like the small size of the active Wikiversity community is hurting us. I am active, but mostly within the confines of courses that I teach. I am too busy to understand the details of this request. DannyS712, Dave Braunschweig: I have confidence in Dave's credentials and hope this gets sorted out ASAP.
- Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 16:28, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the access to javascript files of any user "edituserjs" for a longer time span may create vulnerability especially the assessment of long javascript listing on potential vulnerability is time consuming. Temporary access to these rights has the purpose to solve specific identified problem in a given time. If the problem could not been fixed, time span for fixing can be extended. --Bert Niehaus (discuss • contribs) 10:06, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The intended use case is primary for cleanup and gadget work as needed, and not to be editing other users' js pages --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 15:46, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I trust DannyS712's judgement and greatly appreciate the dedication to improving Wikiversity. I don't have a problem granting a request. I also respect Dave's opinion and will refrain from expressing support for this request until we've discussed the scope and ramifications. --mikeu ^talk 01:32, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This seems to have stalled out. I'd like to try to revitalize the discussion. @DannyS712: can you provide us with details on what specific work is needed soon? Are there edits that can/need to happen in the near term? --mikeu ^talk 02:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there are; the wgEnableAPI setting is being removed, since its always true. While Krinkle has already updated MediaWiki:Gadget-popups.js (using code I helped write :) ), the updates only replace uses with true/false, meaning that useless conditions sometimes remain. Eg, now there are multiple conditions that are always false, or always true, that should be simplified --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:22, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to grant you interface admin for one week to work on those specific tasks.[1] Please relinguish privs when no longer needed. I'm going to leave this discussion on a more open ended grant for further discussion by the community. --mikeu ^talk 02:38, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the site notice. It was drawing more requests for assistance with the user interface than it was discussion of interface administration. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 18:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Any idea when this may be closed? --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 21:48, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mike and I are both comfortable in enabling Interface Administrator rights whenever you need it for a short period of time. Neither of us is comfortable in extending rights for an unlimited duration, as this request seeks. It seems the request is stalled until either there is a limit to the request or someone else willing to approve it. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 00:45, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm so sorry I wasn't clear. Since policy is that it can only be granted temporarily, I requested "longer-term interface adminship" with the intention of requesting temporary rights, and leaving the duration up to the closing crat. I am not requesting indefinite rights. --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:05, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dave Braunschweig: pinging in case you missed my comment above --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 10:34, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mike is/was comfortable with one week. I'm willing to accept that. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 15:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
But that isn't longer term? I opened this discussion with something like 6 months in mind --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 16:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As you noted above, the duration is set by the bureaucrat willing to approve it. Mike and I are willing to approve up to one week. From my perspective, there's nothing about the user interface that should require an effort longer than that without some type of discussion and community awareness and/or support. Request access when you need it. Don't hold on to it because you might need it at some point in the future. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 20:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Dave Braunschweig: okay. Can I be +iadmin for a few days to remove uses of $j, a deprecated alias for $ that may be removed soon? See gerrit:522569 - MediaWiki:Gadget-popups.js is one of the pages that needs to be updated (others are user scripts) --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:43, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 00:20, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happened to be online now, made the edits. Will wait a day to see if any issues emerge before removing the rights. Can this discussion be closed? --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 00:36, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Voting

I aprove to have Interface Aministration access, due the cause that he will upgade the software Information and analysis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marshallo Press (talk • contribs) 21:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why not. DannyS712 is fightin' the good fight. They are capable and experienced, as far as I know. Make with the magic. GUYWAN (t · c) 13:50, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Helpful user who will put the tools to good use. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per comments above. --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 01:06, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support left a note to DannyS712 today He responded in the same day which is better than I can manage. DannyS712 is very personable and other comments above make me comfortable with him --RAYLEIGH22 (discuss • contribs) 21:39, 29 March 2020
Support I agree with Guywan, They are capable (as far as I know.) I also approve his cause for request. KylieInTheSkylie (discuss • contribs) 19:53, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Closing

User:DannyS712 has broad support to edit the user interface on an as-needed basis. Requests to enable rights as needed should be posted in Wikiversity:Request custodian action. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 15:45, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]