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Reviews for Inactivity[edit source]

Hi everyone,

an option for dealing with inactivity apart from the way your currently doing it is to have a set policy on inactivity. With a local policy sysops can be assessed for inactivity, given an appropriate warning of potential desysop, and then if not responded to you can then go to the stewards for the removal of rights. I developed this policy on Wikispecies here which permits a simple and easy way to do this. After voting on the one today I thought you may be interested in this option. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 02:19, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

To see it in action this was my most recent case now archived at Meta it includes all the diffs and links appropriate so you can see all of it from here. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 16:48, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Note: the current policy states that "The maximum time period of inactivity without community review for holders of advanced administrative rights is two years per the MediaWiki Global policy described at Admin activity review. After that time a Steward will remove the rights." --mikeu talk 17:58, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support 5 edits and 5 actions within 12 months makes sense to me. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:23, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support -yes, the above sounds reasonable to me. --mikeu talk 03:05, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
I have written up a policy that can do this and put it in draft form here, please note the bottom part will be a separate template and is de-wikified for draft purposes. Let me know what you think, Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 03:23, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support 5 edits and 5 actions within 12 months makes also sense to me. I am not a custodian in the german Wikiversity but I contribute to that language due to my work at a german university. Is this decision making about inactive curators performed simultaneously in other languages? Differences in decision making between language could cause problems for multiple languages editing. In my authoring activities I used icons in Sustainable Developement Goals in the english Wikiversity. In translation efforts into the german language I caused additional Wiki Commons administrator activities due to fact that german administration decisions had different licencing constraints for images. So it was to make icons visible in German wikiversity. Inconsistency in curator decision making, might have an impact on multilanguage authoring. Activities spending efforts in use-cases and applications of Wikiversity learning resources like Wiki2Reveal might also be regarded as a relevant curator activities for the community even if it is not an measuable as countable administrative action or activity. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 21:19, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
I recently in my role at Wikispecies performed our inactivity assessments of admins, one eventually lost his rights over this. However an important point. I felt that our particular local policy on this was too harsh on translation admins. Hence I made a request via RfC to exempt translation admins from normal admin inactivity review. Reasons were several fold but included the reality that many of those translating pages, a valuable service, who have admin privelages for this function are only on any given wiki for short periods of time, then they move on to another wiki. Hence there are often, understandable, reasons for significant periods of apparent inactivity on one wiki. Hence my own view is in the end to deal with our own site based sysops in regards to inactivity and leave the translation admins to a more case by case assessment as needed. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 23:33, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
So let me summarize a few things:
  • (Vulnerability) Inactive admin accounts might create a security risk and highjacking those account (as Dave Braunschweig already mentioned) could create a hugh workload on admins to fix that especially when these accounts are used in conjunction with bots. That abuse will increase the workload for the active admins even more. That risk should be mitigated/reduced.
  • (Undesired Side Effects of Counts) If we assess the 5 activity policy for admins that want to keep their administration rights, it could lead to undesired admin activities that are performed just for the sake of getting the 5 admin activities performed. Especially deleting pages, blocking users, ... do require careful and sound handling of cases and should not be driven by admin activity counts - feels a bit strange to argue against "counts" as a mathematician and computer scientist ;-) .
  • (Admin Activity Counts) We all might appreciate the value of Wikiversity admins that support the community in educational settings at university and schools and use their admin rights with care and responsibility even if they do not reach the 5 admin action threshold. I think these counts are helpful to identify cause of inactivity and it might be the case that they were not needed anymore as Mikael mentioned for WikiJournal. I think we all would grant Mikael Häggström again the rights if constraints come up that he requires those rights for maintaining WikiJournal pages.
  • (Rights and Responsibility) Nevertheless this discussion here triggered awareness about the fact, that additional rights are provided with a responsibility to support the Wikiversity community with those access to the additional adminitrative tools.
  • (Inactive and no Response) As you see below there are some Curators and Custodians that responded to the inactive account discussion some did not. For those who did not respond to this or did not take part in a discussion they might be no longer interested in the admin rights. Of course it is better to state that additional rights are no longer required. Anyway this discussion created awareness of the fact that priviliges should be granted if needed and disabled if possible. That should not have an impact on the possibility to join the team of curator and custodians later on the we should be open them. If curators want to disable their additional rights, then I guess we all would appreciate their security and vulnerability awareness.
  • (IT perspective) From an IT perspective I would suggest to allow people to disable some or all their own rights as curators/custodians for a period of time for private reasons and during that defined time span they cannot enable the custodian/curator rights anymore themselves. If the need to they must contact the admins again and ask for it. This approach has many advantages. Admins that are aware of the security risks and they know that they will not require the custodian rights for specific time (e.g. for 9 month due to a medical treatment) they can disable that for that time span and they will not be able to restore the admin rights before the end of the time span. This decreases the vulnerability for those accounts and does not force the admin to publicly discuss e.g. the medical treatment in a discussion about inactivity. Furthermore other admins can see that this curator/custodian is currently not available for admin activities and is aware about the vulnerability of admin accounts. By this mean we all can distinguish "lost interest" from "other reasons of inactivity" of security aware admins and custodians. This suggestion is not applicable to Wikiversity admins only. If we all think that makes sense then it could be shared to the admins of other Wikis (Wikipedia, Wikispecies, WikiBooks, ...) as well.
Personal Conclusion: This discussion here was valuable for community health and community vulnerability. I personally would like to keep my additional rights, if possible. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 08:31, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support 5 edits and 5 actions within 12 months but equally I would support a higher requirement of 10 edits and 10 actions over 12 months. Re-applying for lost permissions should not be an onerous task. --Green Giant (discusscontribs) 01:39, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Inactive Administrators[edit source]

Making note of curators and custodians who have fewer than five edits and/or fewer than five administrative actions in the last 12 months, giving them an opportunity to comment.

  • Bert Niehaus (Talk) – Deletes • Imports • Moves • Protects • Contribs I personally came into the curator role due to access to import features that are not publicly available for all Wikiversity authors. This step to see the administrative perspective allowed me insights in custodian actions. For me personally it was very helpful. Created test cases for import mechanism like from Wikipedia to Wikiversity (see Wikipedia2Wikiversity) to convert wikipedia article into learning resources or to convert wikiversity articles into slides for lecture to allow individual annotation to Wikiversity contents on slides e.g. in lectures without modification of the sources in Wikiversity (see Wiki2Reveal. In general the workflow from testing use cases, analysis of custodian actions, inter wiki operation, vulnerability assessment of custodian and curator features and its requirements and constraints cannot be performed with a quick shot, because tools must have a good usablility and must be of benefit for authors in wikiversity and on the other hand it is relevant that these tools do not create a vulnerability of the core principles of openess, higher maintenance efforts for custodians and administrators or other technically facilitated options that could violate the neutral point of view of a huge amount of articles and learning resources in Wikiversity and could endanger a community driven, participatory approaches of development of learning resources and have them available as a common good. Furthermore I try to derive mechanisms at the interface to international agencies that have on the one hand a respect for regulations and the mandate of these organisation and on the other hand allow also to have participatory elements of capacity building and user-driven innovation outside the organisations that require the openness and NPOV in the Wiki to evolve in a community based way. As an example I worked on Sustainable Development Goals and on Capacity Building within Wikiversity. I understand that inactivity of Curators and Custodians require a kind of measurement to trigger actions so I supported the approach above. The consideration from a different angle might also lead to the conclusion, that custodian actions and activities do not lead to a measurable digital footprint of these activity. Anyway if we decide to remove my curator status due to the missing activity, then it is ok for me. You can be sure that I support the way forward independent of my curator status. To create a test environment like Wikipedia2Wikiversity create measurable import actions for me as a curator does not make sense to me. I appreciate the decision making process you all perform here and the option to explain activities. Thank you all for supporting the Wikiversity concept as Open Educational Resources. --Bert Niehaus (discusscontribs) 09:04, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
  • CQ (Talk) – Blocks • Deletes • Imports • Moves • Protects • Contribs
Hi folks. UPDATE 02:04, 26 February 2020 (UTC) - I'm still alive and breathing in the human sense, but I'm very precariously perched on a tiny twig in Internet terms. I enthusiastically support the Wikiverse and grass-roots digital democracy but realize that our ideals and values matter less each passing year. Love is still the answer, though. Feel free to edit, delete, revert any of my stuff. I'll be watching from afar and may emerge again when conditions favor my online presence. CQ (discusscontribs)
  • HappyCamper (Talk) – Blocks • Deletes • Imports • Moves • Protects • Contribs Hi, I am checking in to say hello. This risk of inactive custodians suddenly being hacked and doing damage to Wikiversity is not zero unfortunately, but it is minimal. --HappyCamper (discusscontribs) 11:11, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Juandev (Talk) – Blocks • Deletes • Imports • Moves • Protects • Contribs
  • Lbeaumont (Talk) – Deletes • Imports • Moves • Protects • Contribs What problem is being solved here? I continue to do my best to make constructive contributions to Wikiversity, including creating these learning resources. Cardiac surgery slowed me down earlier this year, yet I persist! I appreciate having curator privileges and they can be useful. What would be gained by taking action to remove privileges that I have never abused?
    • the major issue in regards to inactivity is a safety issue. The tools are capable of doing things that would be undesirable in hacked account, and inactive accounts are an easier target for this. Hence determining if accounts are at risk of this is important. Also Global Sysops have rules/ policies on their interventions and the number of local sysops available is a part of this. It is therefore important to know how many sysops are actually active. It is a part of receiving these rights that they will be monitored. I am just responding to your what is being solved here question. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 18:18, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
      • If the goal is to identify inactive accounts then the suggested filter has poor specificity, as evidenced by the number of contributions I have made over the past weeks, months, and years. If the goal is account security, then I suggest adopting security procedures, such as multi-factor authentication.
        • Just answering your questions here, I am not making a call on this, part of it is admin actions, ie does a user need the tools. This is determined by the logs of admin actions, such as blocks, merges, deletions, patrolling etc. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 21:53, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Leighblackall (Talk) – Blocks • Deletes • Imports • Moves • Protects • Contribs - I'm still here, about to work more in submitting articles in WikiJournalHumanities, as well as in Wikidata. I mainly ever used the Move feature anyway, or deleting pages of my own once moved. I would appreciate retaining the privileges also. Leighblackall (discusscontribs) 00:58, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Mikael Häggström (Talk) – Deletes • Imports • Moves • Protects • Contribs - Although I occasionally use the move or delete page feature for maintenance of WikiJournal, the structure of its pages are now relatively established, so I don't think curatorship is essential for me, since I think I will only use those features perhaps 2 to 5 times per year. Mikael Häggström (discusscontribs) 19:17, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
  • SB Johnny (Talk) – Blocks • Deletes • Imports • Moves • Protects • Contribs - Hi All. I've mostly been spending my online time involved in US politics the last couple years. Hoping to play around a bit with the bloom clock this year and it's nice to be able to see deleted pages (someone nuked a bunch of the worksheet type pages a while back). --SB_Johnny talk 10:36, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:22, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

"New User Blocked Edit" Error on page[edit source]

Hey all, I'm trying to edit my own user page, but I'm getting the New User Blocked Edit error again. I had this happen to me yesterday, so my prof imported my work for me. Can I please get this unblocked so I can make some edits (fix citations, add Wiki links, etc.)? Many thanks in advance. --Kupur (discusscontribs) 05:06, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

A bureaucrat can grant you confirmed rights, which will bypass the filter. --DannyS712 (discusscontribs) 05:23, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Danny. Is there a specific bureaucrat I need to contact -- or are you suggesting that my professor can grant me this? Thanks. --Kupur (discusscontribs) 08:03, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Enwikiversity has 4 bureaucrats, and one should see this discussion soon (side note: if custodians can grant curator, why not allow them to grant confirmed?) --DannyS712 (discusscontribs) 08:55, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

YesY Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:28, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


I would like to also be able to modify my page but it constantly states "New User Blocked". Is there a way around this? (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Francisyoshimoto (talkcontribs) )

@Francisyoshimoto: You can't edit your user page? —Justin (koavf)TCM 04:16, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

I am trying to edit my preprint that I am trying to post on the Wikijournal website. Whenever there are large changes, it has the "New User Blocked" issue. (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Francisyoshimoto (talkcontribs) )

@Francisyoshimoto: Please try again, and please sign your posts. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:13, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

I tried to create a new page but it was blocked. Help? --Biologymatt (discusscontribs) 20:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Biologymatt: Welcome. Please start slow (perhaps adding a paragraph at a time, and don't include links until you build up your edit count a bit. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:37, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I have tried to reformat my references on the page Mazama Newt Conservation, but the page responds with New User Blocked Edit. Is there a way to fix this? Thank you.--Books&LeftHooks (discusscontribs) 21:48, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

@Books&LeftHooks: This is usually due to being a new user and trying to do things like add links. I'd recommend making a few more edits so that the filters know that you are not a spammer or vandal. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:08, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
@Koavf I'm not adding any other pertinent information for the page, besides the references. Is there any other way to bypass this filter?--Books&LeftHooks (discusscontribs) 22:25, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
@Books&LeftHooks: Yes, you can have the rights just granted to you but I don't have an ability to do that personally. Every edit you make helps get you closer to being over the hump, including the posts you make here. I know that's frustrating: we need to have a better system. By the way, I'll only see your attempts to comment directly if you use {{ping|koavf}}. Does that make sense? Is there anything that's confusing about the process still? —Justin (koavf)TCM 23:34, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

New User Blocked Edit[edit source]

Hello,

I am trying to publish my work on Sharon Cousins, and the website will not allow me to publish. What can I do to resolve this? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mbgillespie (talkcontribs) 17:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Mbgillespie: Please try again, and encourage your classmates to start small. Adding just a paragraph at a time is a good starting point until you build up a few good edits. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi,

I have, too, encountered this problem/error after editing some small information in Cell Biology > Basic Cell Structure; and the error box prompted me to visit this site. How can I contribute without facing this problem? I hope I'm not doing something wrong mentioning my problem here. Sincere regards and many thanks in advance, William Savalto (discusscontribs) 20:14, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

@William Savalto: Try again, but don't include any external links in your new content until you build up a small edit history. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:05, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello!

Same problem here, I tried to edit the second chapter of the latin course because it stated there were six conjugations but only listed five (leaving out the pluperfect). Small edit, would love to contribute! (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Boots Likes Languages (talkcontribs) 7 July 2020‎)

@Boots Likes Languages: Welcome! Try again. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi!

I want to create my user page, error encountered. --Sinucep (discusscontribs) 11:52, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

@Sinucep: Welcome! New users can't create pages with external links. Try creating clean pages first and adding external links later after you have an established edit history. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:59, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Some suggestions[edit source]

Hello. I'am sysop at italian Wikipedia and Wikiversity. You might want to consider…importing w:MediaWiki:Usercssjsyoucanpreview, w:MediaWiki:Userjsdangerous, w:MediaWiki:Usercsspreview. They are relevant warnings. You can find some uncategorized category too so you may also think about linking this wiki to Hotcat. It has no maintenance needs since you can directly use the Commons version. Instructions are in c:Help:Gadget-HotCat#Installing_HotCat_on_another_wiki. Regards--Pierpao (discusscontribs) 16:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

The New Mythology Suite[edit source]

redirect to correct title -- 83.9.191.219 (discuss) 08:54, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

? —Justin (koavf)TCM 10:12, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Content is appropriately blocked based on filters for external links. Please see What is Wikiversity? and What Wikiversity is not. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:16, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect New User Created Page with External Link error, please assist[edit source]

Hello there, I am getting this error when creating a new page:

Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: New User Created Page with External Link

The external link I had in the article was to a Wikipedia page. I have removed it but am still getting the error message. Can you please assist? The page I was trying to create is called robots.txt. (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dannanelli (talkcontribs) )

@Dannanelli: Please make a link here to the page you are trying to create. E.g. User:Dannanelli/robots.text. —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
@Koavf: Ok, here's the link: User:Dannanelli/Robots.txt. But it does not show the content I added when I view that link. Does it do that for you? Thank you! 2:56pm, 14 May 2020 (ET)
@Dannanelli: Now corrected. Note that new users aren't able to create pages with any links. The most recent statistic was that 3% of Wikiversity edits are spam or vandalism. We just don't have the capacity to clean all of that up, so we have to use filters to do it for us. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:04, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig: Oh, ok. That makes sense but I did not know that. Thank you guys for your assistance here! 3:05pm, 14 May 2020 (ET)

Error for using external links[edit source]

I want to publish parts of my research work based on the use of ICT in Foundation Level English Language Courses in the Private Universities in Bangladesh. All the information provided are my own and I have even cited others' works using proper references. I have to publish it as the final assignment for one of my postgraduate classes. But Wikipedia has automatically identified it as harmful. Can someone please help me? (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Imran Jahan Digonto (talkcontribs) )

@Imran Jahan Digonto: Are you blocked on Wikipedia, which is our sister site or Wikiversity, which is this site? —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:52, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
@Koavf and Justin: I tried publishing in Wikiversity. I can log in to both Wikipedia and Wikiversity. I can't even find my work anymore. Is there any way you can help me? (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Imran Jahan Digonto (talkcontribs) )
@Imran Jahan Digonto: Yes, I can. The problem is that you are a new user adding a link. The assumption is that new users adding links is dangerous and oftentimes spam. I'm sure that's not true here but it's an automated feature of the site intended to curb spam that sometimes has false positives. The solution is just to make a few more edits that do not include links and after that, you will be given the permissions to include them automatically--no one will need to intervene. Additionally, please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). Let me know how else I can help. If you post {{ping|koavf}} I'll see it no matter where your write it. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:33, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
@Koavf: Does that mean I have to type my whole work again? Or do I get a chance to edit my old work? I am asking this because I am not being able to access or even find what I have written so far. By the way, thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it. Imran Jahan Digonto (discusscontribs) 22:03, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
@Imran Jahan Digonto: I have no clue which page you were editing, etc. My assumption is that you have to start over but you may have the page open in your browser now. I really don't know. If you still have the work open in your browser, maybe save it offline to be safe and try publishing it here on Wikiversity without links in it. Then, add the links later once you have the ability to do so. —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:07, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
@Koavf: Alright. Thank you very much for your kind help. Imran Jahan Digonto (discusscontribs) 22:12, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
@Imran Jahan Digonto: Welcome! See Use of ICT in Foundation Level English Language Courses in the Private Universities in Bangladesh. Please work in much smaller chunks (a paragraph at a time or so) until you build up an edit history. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:18, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

"Method of Loci"[edit source]

I'm trying to add a link that shows where information was copied from in the Wikiversity article "Method of Loci". I was blocked when trying to add it. Datariumrex (discusscontribs) 07:50, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@Datariumrex: Unfortunately, the format of that link is identical to the long-term abuse we've been receiving lately. We have to block first and approve later. Please try again now, or build up your edit history a bit before adding links. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Module:Portal[edit source]

An edit caused the random functions in Portal:Mathematics to cease to work. -- 95.49.63.254 (discuss) 16:51, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

How did it not work? Can you be more descriptive here? Also, how on Earth is Portal:Mathematics/Featured Resource displaying differently once it's included in Portal:Mathematics? If you go directly to the subpage, it reads "Introduction to differentiation" as the only item in an unordered list. If you go to the portal, it reads "REDIRECT Introduction to Calculus/Differentiation" as the only item in an ordered list... —Justin (koavf)TCM 22:39, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
USER imported breaking revision, OP undone the revision. 83.9.230.182 (discuss) 18:53, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the abuse rule[edit source]

Hello, I am using Wikiversity for my biology classes' term project. My section within the project will not submit because the website states that my conservation strategy is against the website abuse rules. I was wondering if I could get approved as my information is constructive to the survival of the rare Mazama Newt. (The preceding unsigned comment was added by 47.42.186.226 (talkcontribs) )

Hi there. Are you editing with an account or logged out as an IP? Can you show me which page you tried to edit? We have filters in place to keep out spam and vandalism but they aren't always perfect. —Justin (koavf)TCM 07:21, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

I also got hit with an abuse rule as a new editor, I was trying to edit the digital literacy page. It has malformed wiki markup and no organization. Not sure why my history in WikiPedia and WikiData isn't used as a trust signal.Jgmac1106 (discusscontribs) 11:47, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

@Jgmac1106: Welcome! Please try again, but note that you will need to build up your edit count before adding external links. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

My own wikiversity page[edit source]

Goodnight board members ,I am just here ask for help to create my page.Thank you. (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sashannaforbes7 (talkcontribs) )

@Sashannaforbes7: I think you many mean three things by this: 1.) your user page which is located at User:Sashannaforbes7, 2.) a biography about yourself as a person, and 3.) some kind of course or research project that you want to lead. Can you explain which of those you have in mind (or something else if I'm just off base)? —Justin (koavf)TCM 04:24, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

New User Blocked Edit[edit source]

Hi,

I am trying to edit Wikimedia Deutschland/Open Science Fellows Program, changing the content quite a bit since it needs to be updated. Unfortunately neither I nor my colleague are granted editing rights to this degree. Can you please help? Thank you in advance. (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anna Gödeke (WMDE) (talkcontribs) 13:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC))

@Anna Gödeke (WMDE): please try again now --DannyS712 (discusscontribs) 15:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
@Dannys712: it worked now, many thanks!! --Anna Gödeke (WMDE) 8:24, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

ntsamr-pattern filter doesn't allow me to create "About" page[edit source]

Hey guys,

I've been trying to create my /User: page but I'm not allowed to. My action has been automatically identified as harmful by "Global "ntsamr"-pattern spambot filter". Could you please help me here? Below is the text I tried to publish:


"I'm a physicist (nuclear and astro) and a software engineer (C++ is my "native" language, so to speak). For years I've been contributing anonymously, finally though I've created an account; hope it's better this way and I can bring some added value in a better way. Feel free to contact me." Programmer Physicist (discusscontribs) 23:24, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

@Programmer Physicist: Welcome! While it sounds inviting, that text is very similar to content used by prolific spammers across Wikimedia projects. I've created the page for you. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig:
Hi Dave! I never knew that it may be similar to text used by spammers.
Thank you for creating the page for me and for adding me to verified users.
Thanks!
-- Programmer Physicist (discusscontribs) 11:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Import: technical issue[edit source]

Hello everyone,

I have tried, just a few minutes ago, to post a message in the Wikiversity Import section by matching the content with all the necessary codes and hyperlinks.

The following message then appeared (and I quote) :

  • Error: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your action was constructive, please inform an administrator of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: New User Blocked Edit

I would like to point out that I have been contributing to various wikis for many years. However it is true that this was my very first message on the English-speaking Wikiversity.

Thank you for your help.

Yours sincerely,

Euphonie (discusscontribs) 04:52, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Update: YesY Done
Technical issue is now solved. This unexpected inability to complete the operation seems to have been related to the encrypted and encoded usual signature. No problem by simply adding the four usual tildes. Import request can currently be consulted via → this specific dedicated section. Yours sincerely, — Euphonie (discusscontribs) 05:18, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
YesY Done I've imported the page per the request at Wikiversity:Import --DannyS712 (discusscontribs) 07:20, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Cannot Publish[edit source]

I am having continual issues publishing and have tried all of the trouble shooting issues mentioned. I have been trying this for hours. (The preceding unsigned comment was added by SethBellamy (talkcontribs) 14 July 2020‎)

@SethBellamy: Please start slowly, one paragraph or so at a time until you build up your edit history. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Is it possible you can override the errors because I am doing your suggestion and it is still not working? (The preceding unsigned comment was added by SethBellamy (talkcontribs) 14 July 2020‎)
@SethBellamy: You are not following the suggestion. You are continuing to attempt to publish the entire resource all at once as a new page. You cannot do this. You have to start small, one paragraph at a time with no links. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:57, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Blocked User[edit source]

User:HumbleBeauty was blocked for abuse of editing privileges[1] and then partially blocked again for violating Wikiversity:Drafts, and remains blocked for this and attempted copyright violations[2]. HumbleBeauty wants Draft:Proof of monism published in main space and has asked[3] that the block be removed. I believe the partial block is appropriate, and the content the user is seeking to publish is a personal essay, appropriate for Draft: or User: space, but not main space. Please review, consistent with Wikiversity:Blocking policy. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

my proof should be useful for improving the following educational resources;
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Historical_Introduction_to_Philosophy/Theories_of_Mind#Monism
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Historical_Introduction_to_Philosophy/Arguments_for_God
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/God
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Does_God_exist%3F
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Energy
etc... and improve the encyclopedia;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monism#Monistic_philosophers
HumbleBeauty (discusscontribs) 16:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Blocked User[edit source]

I am consistently being blocked from publishing changes. It may stem from an early effort to add links to external sites. But once I read the advice here, I tried to make simple edits of a sentence of two on several pages. However, I remain blocked. Can I be unblocked, please? Thank you. --HeatherCBU (discusscontribs) 21:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

@HeatherCBU: Welcome! Please try again. You may still have problems creating pages for a few days, but I've created the pages you were trying to work on for now so you may continue editing. Enjoy! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:32, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I made a more deliberate effort to edit an existing page (the problem may have been that I was trying to create new pages). My edits are working there. --HeatherCBU (discusscontribs) 21:35, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Page Creation Limit Error[edit source]

I am working to contribute to the improvement of German Content on Wikiversity. I am encountering a page creation limit error. Can someone help me out Ajcambron (discusscontribs) 15:53, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ajcambron: Welcome to Wikiversity! The page creation limit is there intentionally to slow people down when they want to quickly create a lot of pages just starting out. It is better to learn more about Wikiversity first, such as how to add new topics to a discussion, and posting at the bottom of the page or topic rather than in the middle. Please note that portals are not included in the default search. Adding a portal generally doesn't reach more users. It just wastes your time. Please focus on adding content to High School German instead. If you want to work on any portal related to German, it should be Portal:German. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:06, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig: Thanks Dave! I've been spending the morning trying to understand how to make Wikis and templates. I have been working on OER for the past few years, but much of what I have created has been in Google Docs, and I am getting the sense that Wikiversity is the best place to create a collection (as defined by the creative commons) of OER (On Remixing CC Licensed work) I am a chapter president of the AATG and feel there is a desperate need to create a central hub German OER. Currently resources are shared in all manner of ways across emails and facebook forums, and I believe that finding a "hub" like Wikiversity will greatly benefit teachers and students. I am relatively new to the wiki world, and welcome all advice and "best practice" Ajcambron (discusscontribs) 16:20, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
@Ajcambron: Great idea! Use Portal:German to organize other editors. Use regular pages like German Language and High School German to share content. Use templates for navigation. Try not to reinvent the wheel unless you really have to. There hasn't been anyone active on the German pages for years. Feel free to organize and improve what's already here. Ask questions as you have them. We'll try to help you become productive quickly. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:37, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Blacklisted website[edit source]

Hey there,

So basically I was trying to edit Wikipedia and then saved my changes. It says I have included an external link which has been blocked. I have no idea on how his link got backlisted.

I request a custodian action to make sure this link is not blacklisted

link: lucid4tech .com

regards me

Your edits on Wikiversity have nothing to do with us. We are Wikiversity. I suggest you go to the talk of the Wikipedia article. Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 08:52, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
@Volston: This is the third time you have attempted to post this link at Wikiversity, each with a different user account. The link is not welcome here, and any further attempts to bypass Wikiversity restrictions will result in your accounts being permanently blocked. If you would like to share educational resources on Wikiversity, please contribute content rather than links to external sites. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 16:18, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Technical Request: Lint error fixing licensing templates...[edit source]

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:LintErrors/missing-end-tag?namespace=6

These can't be fixed without Custodian level access to the templates responsible.

In most cases the 'fixed' template already exists as a sandbox version and just needs swapping in after a code review. ShakespeareFan00 (discusscontribs) 12:08, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: YesY Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:33, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Can I create a page with external links[edit source]

Hi, I am a new user and was trying to add a page for our genealogy research site. I have external links and it blocked me from publishing due to external links. This is my first page so I don't know if I am breaking the rules because I am new or the site does not want external links. Please advise. I don't want to break any rules but I would like to publish my page to the Wikiversity.

Kind Regards, Susan UN: SparrowAndOtter1

This is the page I was trying to create, although not in my Sandbox: https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=User:SparrowAndOtter1/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1

(The preceding unsigned comment was added by SparrowAndOtter1 (talkcontribs) 20 August 2020)

Can't create page - message said to long[edit source]

I tried to create the following page and got an error that the page was too long. What is the page limit size? Would it be better to create multiple pages with internal links? This feels more cumbersome for the end user but I could do that if that is preferred.

Thanks! Susan

(The preceding unsigned comment was added by SparrowAndOtter1 (talkcontribs) 20 August 2020)

@SparrowAndOtter1: Welcome to Wikiversity! You're trying to do too much at once with a new user account. New users can't create pages with external links. They are also limited in the number of pages they can attempt to create, and you're past that limit now. I've created FamilySearch Research Wiki for you, but I have some concerns regarding the content. It is currently written from the perspective of a FamilySearch wiki user rather than a Wikiversity user. Please edit this page to help Wikiversity users learn about and use the FamilySearch wiki. Any FamilySearch wiki specifics (rules, etc.) should remain on that wiki instead. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:50, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
@Dave Braunschweig:Thanks Dave, I will read some others content to get the right voice for the content. :)

Not here?[edit source]

The nature of the initial edits suggested NOTHERE, but I wanted a second opinion from the custodians, before formally rebuking the user concerned.

Special:Contributions/America's_Finest_Editor

ShakespeareFan00 (discusscontribs) 19:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: Don't bother. This is harassment. I've blocked the user and hidden the edits. Friday afternoons and evenings (US) are prime time for this type of harassment. If it continues, I'll share more details with you off-wiki. Wikiversity:No shrines for vandals. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:30, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Spam filter[edit source]

Sorry to bother you again with the spam filter.

I tried to add a few lines to my page but the filter has the following complaint:

  • The following text is what triggered our spam filter: ad

I believe it was triggered by the following url:

  • www.govern.ad/coronavirus

which is for Andorra's covid tracker website, I think. BTW w:Andorra is a small country in Europe which I just discovered for the first time.

Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (discusscontribs) 16:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ottawahitech you don't appear to have triggered an edit filter since March. This is because of the spam blacklist, and is due to an entry in the global blacklist on meta, see m:Spam blacklist - are you asking for the link to be whitelisted locally? DannyS712 (discusscontribs) 16:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank again @DannyS712 for the speedy response. I am not very familiar with how spam is handled on wmf sites.
My first priority is to get my own page updated, so if that can be done locally with less effort, great. As far as fixing the global inability of users to add websites with the country extension .ad, I believe that would be beneficial for others too.
Am I making sense? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (discusscontribs) 17:45, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Afterthought (being really nitpicky): it would be nice to have the error message be a bit more specific, for example:
The following text is what triggered our spam filter: www.govern.ad/coronavirus
Ottawahitech (discusscontribs) 17:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

As this is the English Wikiversity and the content at the requested link is not English, it would not be to our advantage to whitelist this domain.

We have no control over global filters or the displayed error message. But, in general, it is not to our advantage to be too explicit with anti-spam error messages. I've seen a user spend an hour and a half with dozens of attempts trying to bypass a filter. More detail just tells users how to bypass a filter that is intended to block them. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:32, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

User page[edit source]

I cannot create my userpage because when I publish changes it says it has been disallowed. I definitely didn’t do anything harmful. -Cupper52 (talk) 18:34, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

@Cupper52: Welcome to Wikiversity! We don't have an extensive vandalism staff, so we have to be a bit over-restrictive on what new users are allowed to do. For example, new users can't create pages with external links. They are also limited in how many pages they can create. You should have full access soon. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:19, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Making sandbox page, with external link to google[edit source]

I am making my sandbox page and making a link to google for my self to use, to sandbox items

--Indianajosi (discusscontribs) 03:24, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

@Indianajosi: Welcome! Please try again. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:40, 25 November 2020 (UTC)