Wikiversity:Colloquium/archives/March 2020

Minor disruption forewarning

A user is proposing to create "WikiJournal of Terrorism, WikiJournal of Pseudoscience and WikiJournal of Flat Earth". I'm hoping that he doesn't follow though on it, but I wanted to give the community a heads up just in case. Apologies in advance for any disruption. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 09:14, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

@Evolution and evolvability: These would be actions that have a net negative effect on Wikiversity and would result in the user being blocked. Based on previous activity from this user, I'd be comfortable in blocking now, as the disruption and net negative effect are ongoing rather than simply proposed. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 14:58, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Blocked. Do not tolerate this sort of egregious trolling and ping me if you encounter this going forward. --mikeu ^talk 01:43, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mikeu: Thank you - I was being overly-cautious of excalation or retibution actions by them, but you're correct that it just ends up giving leeway to disruption which isn't fair on the rest of the community. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 02:53, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Potential contributor

Copied from User:Scogdill.

I'm a Victorianist and a Digital Humanist, and I'm moving a resource I have worked on for many years off the university server where it has sat and onto a site that others can see. I'm experimenting with using Wikiversity for this. The site I am moving is my copyright, so although I am moving pages wholesale (as soon as I can figure out how), they're mine.

I've done a few things on Wikipedia, same username, and even have a badge. :)

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Just notifying potentially interested parties. Maybe someone (not me) could have a chat with Scogdill and help them out. GUYWAN (t · c) 20:15, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

@Scogdill: Welcome. Can you tell me more about what you need and how we can help? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:35, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much for this friendly and very helpful welcome to Wikiversity! A couple of people have reached out to me, thank you so much! I'll post here and on my Talk page when I need things. Thanks again! :) Sharon --Scogdill (discuss • contribs) 04:21, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, Sharon. Just type out {{ping|Koavf}} and I'll come running. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:02, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Forking built in?

What if Wikiversity had forking built in? What if Wikimedia foundation has a network of educational wikis that all have competing content in the main namespace? Different groups could organize content differently. hmmm? What do you think? Cheers and limitless peace. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 01:09, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

@Michael Ten: Interesting. Did you have in mind what these "competing resources" would look like? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:35, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Sure, certainly. Suppose one group thinks common main namespace resources should be built one way, and another group thinks it should be done another way, instead of having conflict on one Wikiversity, groups could avoid conflict by splintering off to a different English Language Wikiversity. California State University has MANY campuses w:California_State_University#Campuses. There are MANY English speaking Universities in USA. Why not have MANY digital online wiki learning/research/teaching environments? (Wikiversity and Wikieduator are the only two that I know of, and Wikieducator is not as open as Wikiversity). Competition can be good. Perhaps en2.wikiversity.org could be a domain, or some variation of this. Groups could copy resources from Wikiversity, edit them, and so forth. Competition can encourage creativity and best versions of resources metaphorically floating to the top. Reddit has many sub-Reddits. Why shouldn't Wikiversity have multiple sub-wikis (or whatever language you want to label them with)? I do no contribute to this Wikiversity much because it seems like I am often effectively told I am "contributing wrong" or that my contributions are not appreciated. That is what it feels like, even if that is not the users intentions here. I hope that changes. Cheers and Limitless Peace. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 23:15, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Swarm Intelligence comes from interaction of different scientific and educational approaches, scientific and educational negotionations, testing a hypothesis, comparing approaches, proposing a new study from the joint discussion. The design of learning resources may follow different theories and thererfore different forked approaches allow the learner to choose, which approach is appropriate for him/her. Nevertherless letting the different forked approaches stand side by side does not make sense to me. Guide the learners to compare these approaches and support them to find their way through the different options - this is again a learning objective, that could be supported by a learning resource on Wikiversity. I think, it is important, that authors should discuss forking before doing it. Maybe competing resources may find a way to merge directly. The discussion itself to merge or fork is valuable part of the community health within Wikiversity, Cheers, Bert --Bert Niehaus (discuss • contribs) 07:31, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

What's Wikiversity policy on interwiki links?

I was putting such in w:Coronavirus disease 2019 before noting that you had COVID-19. I'd like to do the same in the latter (as well as creating an External link section), but first I'd like to make sure it's allowed. (This is my first edit in WV.  :)  )
DMBFFF (discuss • contribs) 04:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@DMBFFF: Put the most appropriate link at the relevant item at d: and use {{Wikipedia}} for any resources here that related to an article or articles at Wikipedia, I'd say. Thanks for showing up--we hope you stick around! —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:52, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@DMBFFF: added the interwiki link to COVID-19. Keep in mind, the Wikipedia is encyclodpedic and Wikiversity is a learning resource and guide learner in the dynamic change of knowledge about the disease. You can copy and paste from Wikiversity, it is allowed due to the license. Use the "cite his page..." in the menu to cite a specific WIkiversity version just like a scientific reference. The citation will contain a permanent link and the refered content is a specific version of the wikiversity content. Best regards and thank you for the efforts for COVID-19. --Bert Niehaus (discuss • contribs) 09:54, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Translation from French to English

Hi, After a short discuss, I'm wondering about the best way and the best tool to translate this article from French to English in the frame of a wikijournal humanities preprint. If some one have an advise, or a solution, all of them are welcome ! Cheers, Lionel Scheepmans ^{✉ Contact} _{(French native speaker)} 21:46, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Given that its already here on enwikiversity, I suggest just opening up the editor and going line by line, or paragraph by paragraph, replacing the French with the English --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 22:27, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Ok DannyS712, it sounds like the ultimate solution. Before, I'll try to import the page on Meta-wiki and try there the translation tool. Thanks for your response. Lionel Scheepmans ^{✉ Contact} _{(French native speaker)} 14:06, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Coronavirus Tech Handbook is looking for librarians, contributors, and more

The Coronavirus Tech Handbook is a cool, free, and CC-BY-SA 4.0 peer endeavour that some people here may be interested in exploring and/or supporting? Details about how to help are on the Librarians doc. --Charles Jeffrey Danoff (discuss • contribs) 05:26, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Proofreading by English native speakers requested

Hi folks, I've just finish this article translation for the WikiJournal of Humanities and I would like to see if some English native speakers and member of our Wikiversity community could proofread it. That a direct translation of a French article made with the free version of deepl.com translator. Let's see the quality of this translation tool ! Thanks in advance and all the best to everyone in this crisis time. Lionel Scheepmans ^{✉ Contact} _{(French native speaker)} 19:51, 24 March 2020 (UTC)