User talk:Mikk

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Thank's! I shall follow your recommendations. --Mikk 11:09, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Question - suorce

Dear Mikk! I am just puzzled about your resources regarding Votian language. As far as I found out, this is nearly extinct, spoken just by very few people in Russia. So the question is: How do you know so much about it? --Gbaor 09:41, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Answer

Hi!

Well ... my resources should be found in the lower end of every page:

E.g.

http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Votian_Potential#References

References

• ↑ Ariste, Paul Vadja keele grammatika. Tartu, 1948. p. 82
• ↑ Ahlqvist A. Wotisk grammatik jemte språkprof och ordförteckning. — Helsinki, 1856. p.
• ↑ Laanest, Arvo: Sissejuhatus läänemeresoome keeltesse, Tallinn 1975. p.155
• ↑ Ariste, Paul Vadja keele grammatika. Tartu, 1948. p. 84

Quoting http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Grammar_of_Votian_dialects :

Votic language is a Finnic language spoken only by few people in Russian Kingissepp district. However there are significant collections of folklore kept mainly in Russia, Finland and Estonia.

Moreover Votic songs are still sung by some Estonians [1] and there are people trying to revitalize [2] North-Eastern dialects of Estonia, which have been interpreted as Estonian dialects of strong Votic influence or even entirely independent Finnic dialects [3].

• I've heard this Votic like dialect of North-Eastern Estonia spoken by my relatives. So actually it's not so foreign language for me. Besides that I've studied other Finnic languages and Runic songs in Uni and elsewhere.

Mikk 14:58, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Interesting! I just asked, because I assumed that you are not one of those cca. 20 people, that the articles speak about, and wanted to know what leads somebody to study (and in fact very much in detail) such an unspoken language. But I really appreciate it. This way there will be some easy-to-access source for all! Great work, keep going!

--Gbaor 08:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I might be the 21. one, if I had more motivation.

Yes, learning Votic doesn't seem very useful for a Chinese or Zulu, but it gives a slight idea how a Finnic language works.

It should be quite exotic for other Europeans. E.g.:

http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Votian_consonant_gradation

http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Votian_main_cases

http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Votian_verb_moods,_voices_and_tenses

Mikk 18:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

On Completedness

Hey Mikk, I was wondering if you're still working on your series of lessons, I've found them very useful so far. Also, thanks for making them!

- Frzzl 11:45, 23 August 2021 (UTX)