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  • Family name: Pratt
  • Marquess Camden
    • Sir John Charles Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden (4 May 1872 – 15 December 1943)[1] [He came of age on 9 February 1893.[2]]
  • Captain Philip Green
  • Miss Mabel Emilie Scott

Overview

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  • Captain Philip Green married Mabel Emilie Scott after Lady Clementina Camden died in 1886; he was guardian of the children of Lady Camden and John, Marquess of Camden, including the next Marquess. According to an 1898 article in the St. James's Gazette about that young Marquess's engagement, Philip Green had married "Miss Scott, the eldest daughter of Lady Farquhar."[3] According to the Morning Post, she was "Miss Scott, eldest daughter of Lady Scott, of 7, Grosvenor-square, and the late Sir Edward Scott, of Sundridge Park, Kent."[4] Her mother, Emilie Packe Scott, had remarried after the baronet’s death in 1883, to Horace Brand Farquhar, 1st Earl Farquhar;[5] they both also attended the ball.
  • After Philip Green died on 17 November 1904, Mabel Scott Green remarried, to Sidney Ernald Ralph Lane, on 5 August 1905.[6]
  • Mabel Emilie Scott’s father was Sir Edward Henry Scott, 5th Baronet[6] (19 February 1842 – 1 August 1883[7]), who bred pheasants and was friends with Albert Edward, Prince of Wales, who visited his Sunridge Park for shooting parties. Scott had a train station built for his family’s use after the Bromley North railway line opened in 1878; in 1896 a “rebuilt station” opened. A.J. Balfour opened the Sunridge Park golf course in 1903.[8]

Acquaintances, Friends and Enemies

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Captain Philip Green

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  • Mr. Walter Johnston, gardener at Bayham Abbey[9]
  • Mr. H. Downer, butler[10]

Organizations

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Sir John Charles Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden

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  • Eton College (1885–1890)[1]
  • Trinity College, Cambridge[11]

Captain Philip Green

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  • Primrose League

Timeline

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1876 December 29, Lady Clementina, Marchioness of Camden and Captain Philip Green married.[12]

1888 June 19, Tuesday, Captain Philip Green and Miss Mabel Emllie Scott married.

1897 June 28, Monday, according to the Morning Post, John, 4th Marquis of Camden was invited to the 28 June Queen's Garden Party, the official end of the Diamond Jubilee celebrations in London.[13]

1897 July 2, the Marquess of Camden attended the Duchess of Devonshire's fancy-dress ball at Devonshire House, as did Captain Philip and Mrs. Green.

1898 June 2, Sir John Charles Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden and Lady Joan Marion Nevill married.

Costume at the Duchess of Devonshire's 2 July 1897 Fancy-dress Ball

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Black-and-white photograph of a standing man richly dressed in an historical costume
John Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden in costume as Duc de Richelieu. ©National Portrait Gallery, London.

Sir John Charles Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden

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At the Duchess of Devonshire's fancy-dress ball, John, Marquis of Camden (at 341) was dressed as Duc de Richelieu in the Quadrille of the Louis XV. and Louis XVI.[14]

Lafayette's portrait of "John Charles Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden as Duc de Richelieu" in costume is photogravure #257 in the album presented to the Duchess of Devonshire and now in the National Portrait Gallery.[15] The printing on the portrait says, "Marquis Camden as Duc de Richelieu."[16]

Almost all portraits of Duc de Richelieu or Cardinal Richelieu show him dressed as a cardinal rather than a courtier and in red. One painted in 1881 that has him in armor has him also dressed as a cleric in red. Edward Bulwer-Lytton's 1839 Richelieu: Or the Conspiracy: A Play in Five Acts is the source of the line "the pen is mightier than the sword."[17] Bulwer-Lytton's collected works continued to be published through the century, with recent editions in the 1890s that include black-and-white line drawings of courtiers.

Captain and Mrs. Philip Green

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Captain Philip Green (at 576) and Mrs. Mabel Green (at 577) also attended the ball.[18]:p. 12, Col. 4b

Demographics

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  • Nationality: British[11]

Residences

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Captain Philip Green

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  • Bayham Abbey
  • Villa Clementine, Cannes (built in 1881, rented to Lady Wolverton in 1892)[19]

Family

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  • Lady Clementina Augusta Spencer-Churchill (4 May 1848 – 27 March 1886)[12]
  • John Charles Pratt, 3rd Marquess Camden (30 June 1840 – 4 May 1872)[20]
    1. unnamed son Pratt (11 August 1868 – 11 August 1868)
    2. John Francis Charles Pratt, Earl of Brecknock (30 August 1869 – 30 August 1869)
    3. Lady Clementine Frances Anne Pratt (2 August 1870 – 13 January 1921)
    4. Sir John Charles Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden (9 February 1872 – 15 December 1943)
  • Captain Philip Green (29 April 1844[21] – 18 November 1904)[22]
    1. Evelyn Frances Henrietta[23] Green (8 November 1880 – September 1944)
  • Miss Mabel Emilie Scott (14 October 1866[24] – 4 July 1950[25])
    1. Cecil Edward Philip Green (10 February 1892[26] – )


  • Sir Edward Henry Scott, 5th Baronet[6] (19 February 1842 – 1 August 1883[7]
  • Lady Emilie Packe Scott Farquhar (22 August 1840 – 6 April 1922)[5]


  • Sir John Charles Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden (9 February 1872 – 15 December 1943)[1]
  • Lady Joan Marion Nevill (16 July 1877 – 4 July 1952)[27]
  1. John Charles Henry Pratt, 5th Marquess Camden (12 April 1899 – 22 March 1983)
  2. Lady Irene Helen Pratt (23 December 1906 – 1976)
  3. Lady Fiona Pratt (4 March 1911 – 1985)
  4. Major Lord Roderic Arthur Neville Pratt (13 February 1915 – 30 May 1997)

Relations

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  • Sir John Pratt's first cousin was Winston Churchill.[11]
  • Lady Joan Marion Nevill's father was the 3rd Marquess of Abergavenny.[11]

Notes and Questions

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  1. Philip Green's estate probated estate was worth £9,124 5s. 5d., left to Hon. Arthur Henry John Walsh and William Henry Green, esq.,[28] his brother.[29]

Footnotes

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  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 "Sir John Charles Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden." "Person Page". www.thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2021-07-07. https://www.thepeerage.com/p1450.htm#i14494.
  2. ↑ "Social and Personal." Glasgow Evening News 18 January 1893 Wednesday: 8 [of 8], Col. 1b [of 5]. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001965/18930118/106/0008.
  3. ↑ "Politics and Persons." St James's Gazette 25 January 1898 Tuesday: 13 [of 16], Col. 2a [of 2]. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0001485/18980125/080/0013.
  4. ↑ "Arrangements for This Day." Morning Post 11 May 1888 Friday: 5 [of 8], Col. 6c [of 7]. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18880511/057/0005.
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 "Lady Emilie Packe Farquhar (1840-1922) - Find a..." www.findagrave.com. Retrieved 2024-05-31. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/40867817/emilie_farquhar.
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 6.2 Ancestry.com. Westminster, London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2020.
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 "Sir Edward Henry Scott (1842-1883) - Find a Grave..." www.findagrave.com. Retrieved 2024-05-31. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/40867511/edward-henry-scott.
  8. ↑ “Sundridge Park.” House and Heritage 13 February 2019. https://houseandheritage.org/tag/sundridge-park/.
  9. ↑ "Lamberhurst. Horticultural Society." Sussex Express, Sussex Standard, Weald and Kent Mail, Hants and County Advertiser 22 November 1890 Saturday: 3 [of 12], Col. 6a–b [of 6]. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000654/18901122/055/0003.
  10. ↑ "Marriage of Capt. Philip Green and Miss Scott." Kent & Sussex Courier 22 June 1888 Friday: 5 [of 8], Col. 2a–5b [of 7]. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000481/18880622/110/0005#.
  11. ↑ 11.0 11.1 11.2 11.3 "John Pratt, 4th Marquess Camden". Wikipedia. 2020-08-10. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Pratt,_4th_Marquess_Camden&oldid=972126241.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pratt,_4th_Marquess_Camden.
  12. ↑ 12.0 12.1 "Lady Clementina Augusta Spencer-Churchill." "Person Page". www.thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2021-10-04. https://www.thepeerage.com/p10618.htm#i106178.
  13. ↑ “The Queen’s Garden Party.” Morning Post 29 June 1897, Tuesday: 4 [of 12], Cols. 1a–7c [of 7] and 5, Col. 1a–c. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/BL/0000174/18970629/032/0004 and https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18970629/032/0005.
  14. ↑ "Fancy Dress Ball at Devonshire House." Morning Post Saturday 3 July 1897: 7 [of 12], Col. 4a–8 Col. 2b. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18970703/054/0007.
  15. ↑ "Devonshire House Fancy Dress Ball (1897): photogravures by Walker & Boutall after various photographers." 1899. National Portrait Gallery https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait-list.php?set=515.
  16. ↑ "Marquis Camden as Duc de Richelieu." Diamond Jubilee Fancy Dress Ball. National Portrait Gallery https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw158620/John-Charles-Pratt-4th-Marquess-Camden-as-Duc-de-Richelieu.
  17. ↑ "The pen is mightier than the sword". Wikipedia. 2021-11-18. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_pen_is_mightier_than_the_sword&oldid=1055942391.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pen_is_mightier_than_the_sword.
  18. ↑ "Ball at Devonshire House." The Times Saturday 3 July 1897: 12 [of 20], Cols. 1a–4c [of 6] The Times Digital Archive. Web. 28 Nov. 2015.
  19. ↑ "Royalty in the South of France. The Duke and Duchess of Teck, and Princess May at the Villa Clementine, Cannes." Graphic 19 March 1892 Saturday: 8 [of 36, Col. 2c [of 2]. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000057/18920319/007/0008.
  20. ↑ "John Charles Pratt, 3rd Marquess Camden." "Person Page". www.thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2021-10-04. https://www.thepeerage.com/p10618.htm#i106179.
  21. ↑ Ancestry.com. UK and Ireland, Find a Grave Index, 1300s-Current [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.
  22. ↑ "Captain Philip Green." "Person Page". www.thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2021-10-04. https://www.thepeerage.com/p10618.htm#i106180.
  23. ↑ Ancestry.com. North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
  24. ↑ Ancestry.com. England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
  25. ↑ Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
  26. ↑ Ancestry.com. Westminster, London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1919 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2020.
  27. ↑ "Lady Joan Marion Nevill." "Person Page". www.thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2021-07-07. https://www.thepeerage.com/p1450.htm#i14493.
  28. ↑ Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
  29. ↑ Ancestry.com. Scotland, National Probate Index (Calendar of Confirmations and Inventories), 1876-1936 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry Operations, Inc., 2015.
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