Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/Atcovi
Hello everyone, and welcome to my request for custodianship.
I have requested Custodianship for a sole purpose, and that purpose is specifically to help Wikiversity with deletions, blocks, and most importantly, for projects. Such as deleting and moving pages in a few of my projects I am currently doing so. Such as MineCraft, Ebola, and Cri du Chat.
I have over 3,500+ edits on this Wiki. Showing that I edit this wiki a lot. This wiki is also my home wiki too, that means that I spend most of my wiki editing time here. As stated before, I have over 3,500 edits on this wiki.
I've also managed to set pages for deletions, reverted vandalism here, and also done custodian related work also. I hope to achieve adminship for the following purposes: Delete unnecessary pages (and project pages needed for deletion, as I stated before, I would like to delete a few project pages of mine rather than adding a deletion tag to the page and wait about 5 hours until an admin deletes the page), block vandals (time to time vandals usually come by), and also for project pages.
There are also issues about my activity, I know that I will be more active since I quit other websites I used to go on and have many projects in need of finishing. With admin tools I can tell myself I need to be active on Wikiversity in order to finish my projects and help out with Wikiversity with deletion and blocking vandals.
I also thought, since Sidelight is being demoted, I thought to (hopefully) replace him as a custodian for Wikiversity.
Thanks everyone for reading.
Questions
[edit source]Comments
[edit source]Goldenburg, custodian tools are not necessary to delete your own pages, the speedy deletion template is quite adequate for that. We dislike custodians deleting pages on their own initiative, because it is not transparent, so the norm for speedy deletion is a request by a user (who may also be a custodian), followed by a deletion by an independent custodian, confirming the decision. It's a minimal safeguard against inappropriate deletions. Sometimes where there is some emergency, a custodian will directly delete, and having more custodians available can make it easier to handle emergency requests, and, as well, to review any deletions that may have been made.
Remember, when you delete a page, only custodians can see the history of the page, so even if the reasons are perfectly good, we can't tell!
Blocking users is something we avoid unless the reasons are very clear. If you look at the current block log,[1] you will see that there are very few blocks. Mathonius was originally a global sysop, but Mathonius is also a sysop here, and does block where a more purely local sysop might not bother. He may also be looking at global contributions, I have not checked. When someone is disruptive here, *and* globally, blocking is often appropriate. Otherwise we see much more vandalism and spam than we block for. Mostly, it's not worth cluttering the log with, and user talk pages the same. The exception is when vandalism or spam is repeated, then our custodians will act.
I'm not comfortable with you as a probationary custodian *unless* you agree to restrictions that will avoid problems. Wikiversity is a place for learning-by-doing, as you know, and learning to be a sysop can be done here. Are you interested in restrictions that you might agree to?
By policy, as long as any permanent custodian is willing to mentor, you can be a probationary custodian, so what I've written here is a suggestion, not a demand. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:38, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your comment Abd. And in response to paragraph 4, I am interested in any restrictions that I "might" agree too. I'll be happy to agree to any restrictions needed. I also have understood your comment, and will keep in mind. I guess to paragraph 1 I'll might as well do the deletion tag rather than deleting it by myself, if the community dislikes custodians deleting their own pages by their own initiative. --Goldenburg111 19:44, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- If it is in your own user space, not so much of a problem. It would be pages elsewhere. Occasionally, though, someone sets up some process page in user space and others reply. If it's obvious from the pagename that this was really your personal page, fine. If not, deletion tags are easy and quick. It takes very little time to review and action a straightforward speedy deletion. My concern about it is based on history where deletion was used to pursue the personal agenda of the custodian. It is not that the personal agenda is necessarily wrong, it is that custodian tools are not given to users for that purpose. I'll think about what to suggest. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 20:54, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- So what about if I use the custodian tools for deleting my project pages and using it for it's main purpose. I basically want to help Wikiversity with a new set of tools to help it even more. I'm already adding in content I learn at school, why not I help Wikiversity better by having custodian tools to help Wikiversity even further? But thanks though for your participation here. --Goldenburg111 21:07, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- If it is in your own user space, not so much of a problem. It would be pages elsewhere. Occasionally, though, someone sets up some process page in user space and others reply. If it's obvious from the pagename that this was really your personal page, fine. If not, deletion tags are easy and quick. It takes very little time to review and action a straightforward speedy deletion. My concern about it is based on history where deletion was used to pursue the personal agenda of the custodian. It is not that the personal agenda is necessarily wrong, it is that custodian tools are not given to users for that purpose. I'll think about what to suggest. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 20:54, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your comment Abd. And in response to paragraph 4, I am interested in any restrictions that I "might" agree too. I'll be happy to agree to any restrictions needed. I also have understood your comment, and will keep in mind. I guess to paragraph 1 I'll might as well do the deletion tag rather than deleting it by myself, if the community dislikes custodians deleting their own pages by their own initiative. --Goldenburg111 19:44, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Currently withdrawing this request until some other time. But yet I will keep this here. --Goldenburg111 15:21, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, I would like to completely withdrawn from requesting sysopship. I've came to the idea that we appoint sysops if needed, well atleast that's my general idea. I'm here to help with Wikiversity Content. My main project is Topic:North American History and I hope to complete this project, and others. I don't see any reason for me to become a sysop here, especially when we aren't even in need of one. So this is completely withdrawn. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 11:36, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]