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Electrical & Electronic Engineering?
Shouldn't the topic be called Electrical & Electronic Engineering? 126.96.36.199 15:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC) I agree. Is it possible to rename pages?
Who's here anyway? I think maybe we should move lessons off the main page and into sub categories, to allow for topics like electronic materials and devices and circuit design and analysis. We should probably also seperate digital and analogue electronics.
I was surpried to see the small amount of content in this section of the wikiversity. As a suggestion, I think that instead of starting the lesson on electronical elgeeniring with mathematical laws, the lesson should begin explaining what is and what is not electronics.
Also, since electronics is so broad, it will be very difficult and pointless to try to have very specific and in depth information on all subjects. Also, consider that to give an adequate course on a given subject, you need a very good understanding of that field and nobody has a very good understanding of every field of electronics. So,I sugest we give a overview of electronics with in depth articles
I would recoment something like the following:
What are electronics. What an electronic signal is. Explain voltage and current and how it represent the information of interest in a signal.
Explain the difference between passive electronics devices and active electronic devices.
Explain the difference between analog and digital. (A good explanation is needed here, not just the incorrect usual "analog is dead, digital is the future").
The resistor, and its laws (ohms, kirchol, etc.) Some simple resitor networks (all direct current or voltage only).
Better concept of how the information of interest can be represented by and electronic singal, introduction of Alternating current, Frecuency and phase concepts.
Pasive analog electronic components: Resistor Capacitor and Inductor and their propieties. Some simple filters.
Pasive analog filter design.
Active components: Diode, Bipolar transitor and MOSFET transitor.
The most important analog building block : The operational amplifier
Opamp configurations: Add, substracnt, multiply/divide, integrate and diferentiate.
Digital Logic: Diferences between analog and digital.
Binary system, Boolean logic, and basic memoryless digital gates.
Digital gates with memory: Flip flops.
Finite State Machines.
Some sugestions for In-depth articles:
Analog system processing. Digital system processing. Moore's Law and system integration. Fabrication of semiconductor devices. Analog Active Filter. Microcontrollers MOSFET transistor modes, regions of operation, and frecuency response. Bipolar transistor modes, regions of operation, and frecuency response. Diferencial pair.
I agree with this, further I would like to propose the following amendments.
Since the discipline of electrical engineering is so broad, I think it would be worth while to break it up into several main groups, in particular:
- Electronics (all of the pages submitted thus far would fall under this category)
- Power Systems (something like three phase power)
- Control Theorey (variable gain, PID, statespace)
- Signal Processing (fourier transform, filter design, concept of spectra)
- Analogue Communications (AM/FM modulation techniques, filter design)
- Digital Communications (digital modulation techniques eg, ASK, QPSK; it may be worthwhile to look at coding techniques eg turbo coding, shannon's limit; there's always CDMA to look at as well)
- RF communications (high frequency effects, impedance matching, smith charts)
please let me know what you think.
Photonics: fiber optics, lasers, and light based technologies and also optical communications systems (at the physical layer)
Power: energy systems, motors, generators, various power converters, solar power
Communications: large group which includes information theory, signals and systems, encryption, digital signal processing, digital modulation techniques (ASK, QPSK, etc), wireless communications, error control coding, computer networks, multimedia systems.
Electromagnetics: transmission lines, microwave circuits, waveguides, antennas, computer simulation of EM problems like FDTD or method of moments,
Biomedical - ?? not sure exactly but they study how to address medical problems using electrical technolgies e.g. nuclear magnetic resonance imaging. This field is new and interdisplinary.
Electronics - essentially electronic circuit. They also create some RF circuits so there is overlap with Electromagnetics. They tend to be more focuse on RF circuits as part of a larger system.
Computers - microprocessors, computer architecture, compilers, programming languages, distributed systems, digital hardware, embedded systems, operating systems, digital logic design, databases, etc.
Systems Control - Feedback control systems. This is a very large field with a lot of theory so it is a separate discipline. Topic include: robust control, adaptive control, observability, controlability, real time control, nonlinear control etc.
It should be noted that these divisions are based on focus. There is however some overlap. For instance: both computer engineers and electronics engineers are interested in VLSI Cmos digital logic design. However in general the focus of computer engineers is more on creating processors or digital logic circuits. The focus of electronic engineers is on the circuits themselves and also on integrating them with A/D converters, analog circuits etc. The Electronics engineers tend to be more on the analog side and computer engineers more on the digital/microprocessor side. --188.8.131.52 23:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Newbies wanting to help...
Just a question: I'm currently studying Electronic Engineering and would like to (try to) contribute to the lectures. I'm not sure as to how it works, exactly, do we just fall in and type up contibutions or add to the empty topics, or are things happening in some certain order, i.e certain topics hetting allocated to certain people?
184.108.40.206 20:45, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Old Engineer, New to Wikiversity
Hi all. I studied Electronics & Electrical Engineering ('96) and I'd like to help out constructing these pages. I've already added a little bit under Silicon.
Teddy Bear 13:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC) Teddy Bear
Hi! Why they heck won't they let you use the same username for all wikimedia projects. Oh well whatever. Hi I am commonly known as NightFalcon90909 and someday when I am not being lazy I will actually sign up for wikiversity. In the meantime, I will be randomly visiting the pages in the school and generally cleaning up. I am still in highschool but am very interested in electronic/electrical engineering specifically. SO. I will clean up pages when I notice it, I will take stuff from Wikipedia and Wikibooks to improve these pages, and generally be a pain :-D 220.127.116.11 19:30, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
School: Electronic Engineering redirecting to Topic: Electronic Engineering
Why has the electronic school been removed and placed in the topic namespace? This seems to contravene the purpose of the different namespaces as explained to me in wikiversity_talk:namespaces. The entire outline for the course seems to have also been changed and not for the better in my opinion. --spuzzdawg 15:58, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
program layout questions and issues
the layout of the program ee seams a little odd now i learned the technician method rather than engineering method but it seams the order of things is a bit off.
anyhow its starting thougt hope it gets some pepole thinking thers also a eet(ee) plan of study in that pdf at the top and ya ect is 5 terms i didnt post the last one
looking at it again most of its prob that i took technician track rather than engineering track i still think the first courses need to start off with simpler stuff as well as basic breadboarding and circuitry before doing any logic circuits Eadthem 06:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
added lvl 0 to the corse list and some ideas
i think it would be nice to have these on all ower classes i've put 4 out there already so you can see what it would look like or at least 1 idea for it.
i've suggested a basic layout for page names and made a template for class pages its in use in the EE111 class.
class name proposal
I talked to jwschmidt and couple others on irc and a lot of people don't like the class number/name system for pages
proposed system 1 this is what i have been using lately.
proposed system 2
proposed system 3
School Face Lift
Hey pips. Please comment on face lift for the department. Colour scheme can be discussed as well. Thanx! Thuvack 10:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)