Talk:WikiJournal Preprints/Sustainability Through Sci-Fi: Visions of Future Cities via Popular Media and the Hedonistic Sustainability Movement

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Pass. Overlapping text were terms like "Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" and "impacts of climate change".[1] OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:36, 14 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Review by Stephen Fiore , University of Central Florida

These assessment comments were submitted on , and refer to this previous version of the article

Thank you for the opportunity to review the manuscript Sustainability Through Sci-Fi. I enjoyed the ideas presented and the elaboration of Fiore et al.'s 2014 hedonomic sustainability framework in such a creative way. Below are a set of comments that are meant to strengthen the article.

The manuscript would benefit from the addition of tables or figures. There are a number of ideas/concepts described that can be made more clear using any appropriate artifact.

It might be worth noting that, CopenHill, the building designed by Bjarke Ingalls Group that we featured in the article, won the World Building of the Year 2021 (see The award description might be of use to the authors. Specifically, as was described in the award, CopenHill “vastly expands the definition (and expectation) of an energy-sector facility, featuring a ski slope, hiking trail, and green terrains on its roof, sporting the world's tallest artificial climbing wall on its vertical facade as well as hosting a rooftop bar, cross-fit area, and a viewing plateau of the city…. WAF Program Director Paul Finch praised the way CopenHill "addresses the role of architecture in the new world of recycling and zero carbon," adding: "It treats infrastructure projects in a way which makes people say 'Yes in my back yard' rather than 'no.' It encourages designers to think beyond the brief, to argue for ideas, and to ride the tides of politics and economics in the pursuit of the socially beneficial. And it reminds us that buildings can be fun!" Only when we have innovations like this, across all aspects of our lives, can we truly take on the challenges of environmental sustainability.

The authors might want to consider expanding the Fiore et al. 2x2 by making the pros and cons more explicit in the cells.

Given the use of movies/television, can you include more screenshots or images?

Is there a movie or show that can be included other than the Jetsons? There are any number of futuristic movies from which to draw – from the recent to some nearly a 100 years old. Movies such as Minority Report,, Metropolis, Fifth Element, Things to Come, all had electric vehicles. Even Woody Allen’s Sleeper showed exhaust. Other movies with other potentially relevant content include Things to Come, Tomorrowland, Just Imagine (which had floating vehicles). Logan’s Run and the movie “Her” feature hedonism in different ways. My point is that using a cartoon seems to detract from the serious treatment you are giving. And other relevant movies are available for discussion.

Generally, with the use of the appropriate artifacts (e.g., tables), the authors could consider developing more clear sets of guidelines for others to follow on this work and do even deeper analyses of other works of fiction.

War Games was not necessarily the first movie to see a connection to war and video games. Also, the best example of “unknowing actors” would be Enders Game. Related, the inclusion of America’s Army almost seems a non-sequitur. What is the point being made?

As something consider when comparing utopias and dystopias, the authors describe dystopias as low in hedonomics. But many great works of dystopian fiction paint the world more as a hidden dystopia. On the surface, everything is fine/acceptable or even ‘ideal’. Only after some layer is pulled away is the dystopia revealed. This may be too fine a point, but given that this article is bringing in fiction, this distinction seems warranted for at least some mention.

The example of the Jetsons does not seem to fit well. The exhaust seems more for cartoonish effect than something to demonstrate the use of fossil fuels. The authors are ascribing more intentionality than seems warranted. And, as noted, other movies/shows are available.