Social Victorians/People/Shrewsbury

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Also Known As[edit | edit source]

  • Family name: Chetwynd-Talbot
  • Earl of Shrewsbury
    • Charles Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot, 20th Earl of Shrewsbury (11 May 1877 – 7 May 1921)
  • Countess of Shrewsbury
    • Ellen Mary Palmer-Morewood Chetwynd-Talbot (21 June 1882 –)
  • Earl of Waterford
  • 5th Earl Talbot
  • Viscount Ingestre
    • Charles Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot (1868–1877)
    • Charles John Alton Chetwynd-Talbot (1882? – )
  • Baron Dynevor
    • Charles Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot
  • Lord Talbot is apparently a different family with a different surname: FitzAlan-Howard

Demographics[edit | edit source]

  • Nationality: British[1]

Residences[edit | edit source]

  • Ingestre Hall, near Stafford, Staffordshire[1]

Family[edit | edit source]

  • Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot, 18th Earl of Shrewsbury (8 November 1803 – 4 June 1868)[2]
  • Lady Sarah Elizabeth Beresford (10 November 1807 – 13 October 1884)[3]
  1. Charles John Chetwynd Chetwynd-Talbot, 19th Earl of Shrewsbury (13 April 1830 – 11 May 1877)
  2. Lady Victoria Susan Chetwynd-Talbot (27 February 1831 – 8 June 1856)
  3. Admiral Hon. Walter Cecil Carpenter (27 March 1834 – 13 May 1904)
  4. Lady Constance Harriet Mahonesa Chetwynd-Talbot (15 June 1836 – 10 October 1901)
  5. Lady Gertrude Frances Chetwynd-Talbot (21 March 1840 – 30 September 1906)
  6. Hon. Sir Reginald Arthur James Chetwynd-Talbot (11 July 1841 – 15 January 1929)
  7. Lady Adelaide Chetwynd-Talbot (8 July 1844 – 16 March 1917)
  8. Hon. Alfred Chetwynd-Talbot (14 September 1848 – 9 May 1913)


  • Charles John Chetwynd Chetwynd-Talbot, 19th Earl of Shrewsbury (13 April 1830 – 11 May 1877)[4]
  • Anna Theresa Cockerell (20 February 1836 – 29 July 1912)[5]
  1. Lady Theresa Susey Helen Chetwynd-Talbot ( – 16 March 1919)
  2. Lady Guendolen Theresa Chetwynd-Talbot ( – 20 January 1937)
  3. Lady Muriel Frances Louisa Chetwynd-Talbot (c 1860 – 2 March 1925)
  4. Charles Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot, 20th Earl of Shrewsbury (13 November 1860 – 7 May 1921)


  • Ellen Mary Palmer-Morewood Mundy Chetwynd-Talbot ( – 23 August 1940)[6]
  • Alfred Edward Miller Mundy ()
  1. Evelyn Hester Mundy ( – 16 June 1947)
  • Charles Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot, 20th Earl of Shrewsbury (13 November 1860 – 7 May 1921)[7]
  1. Charles John Alton Chetwynd-Talbot, Viscount Ingestre (8 September 1882 – 8 January 1915)
  2. Nellie Viola Castlia Florence Chetwynd-Talbot (3 July 1885 – 23 July 1951)


  • Hon. Sir Reginald Arthur James Chetwynd-Talbot (11 July 1841 – 15 January 1929)[8]
  • Margaret Jane Stuart-Wortley ( – 6 October 1937)[9]


  • Sir Patrick (Wellington Patrick Manvers) Chetwynd-Talbot (12 December 1817 – 23 September 1898)[10]
  • Lady Emma Charlotte Stanley ( – 23 August 1928)[11]
  1. Charles Stanley Chetwynd-Talbot (31 January 1862 – 20 October 1890)
  2. Cecil Emma Chetwynd-Talbot (6 April 1864 – 26 January 1934)
  3. Edith Constance Louisa Chetwynd-Talbot (24 June 1865 – 11 November 1941)
  4. Lt.-Col. Frederick Gilbert Chetwynd-Talbot (1 May 1868 – 25 December 1948)
  5. Walter Stanley Chetwynd-Talbot (4 November 1869 – 3 July 1935)
  6. Henry Arthur Chetwynd-Talbot (23 August 1872 – 15 July 1920)
  7. Gilbert Edward Chetwynd-Talbot (4 September 1876 – 26 March 1950)
  8. Helen Ivory Chetwynd-Talbot (14 April 1880 – 10 May 1956)

Acquaintances, Friends and Enemies[edit | edit source]

Timeline[edit | edit source]

1882 June 21, Charles Chetwynd-Talbot and Ellen Mary Palmer-Morewood Mundy married.[6]

1882 September 8, Charles John Alton Chetwynd-Talbot was born.

1897 July 2, Charles Chetwynd-Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, attended the Duchess of Devonshire's fancy-dress ball at Devonshire House, as did Hon. Sir Reginald Arthur James Chetwynd-Talbot, called General Talbot in the newspaper, and his wife, Margaret Chetwynd-Talbot; and Sir Wellington Patrick Manvers Chetwynd-Talbot, called Colonel Talbot, and probably his wife, Lady Emma Chetwynd-Talbot.

Costume at the Duchess of Devonshire's 2 July 1897 Fancy-dress Ball[edit | edit source]

Charles Earl of Shrewsbury[edit | edit source]

At the Duchess of Devonshire's fancy-dress ball, Charles Chetwynd-Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury (at 101) was either a Gentleman of the Court of Lois XV. or a Gentleman of the Court of the Empress Catherine II of Russia (probably the latter, based on the Album at the National Portrait Gallery):

  • "The Earl of Shrewsbury (gentleman of the Court of Louis XV.), blue velvet coat embroidered in gold; embroidered primrose satin vest; blue velvet breeches."[12]:36, Col. 3b
  • He was dressed as a "Gentleman of the Court of Louis XV., in blue velvet coat, very handsomely embroidered in gold, primrose satin vest embroidered to match, blue velvet breeches."[13]:8, Col. 1c
  • While that is said of him in the paragraphs describing the costumes, the Earl of Shrewsbury is also listed among the Ladies and Gentlemen of the Court in the procession of the Empress Catherine II of Russia.[13]:7, Col. 5b [14]

Lafayette's portrait of "Charles Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot, 20th Earl of Shrewsbury as a member of the Court of Catherine II of Russia" in costume is #71 in the album presented to the Duchess of Devonshire and now in the National Portrait Gallery.[15] The printing on the portrait says, "The Earl of Shrewsbury as a member of the Court of Catherine II of Russia," with a Long S in Russia.[16]

The Earl of Shrewsbury's original costume (that of a "Courtier of Louis XV.") appeared in the Drury Lane production of The White Heather.[17]

Gen. and the Hon. Mrs. Talbot[edit | edit source]

General Talbot, probably Hon. Sir Reginald Arthur James Chetwynd-Talbot (at 451), was accompanied by a Mrs. Talbot (at 485), Margaret Jane Stuart-Wortley Chetwynd-Talbot:

  • "Very striking was the "Brünnheld" of the Hon. Mrs. Talbot, who wore armour, a white robe, red velvet cloak, helmet, with owl's feathers, and a large shield and spear."[18]:Col. 1

Alexander Bassano's portrait of "Margaret Jane (née Stuart-Wortley), Lady Talbot as a Valkyrie" in costume is #174 in the album presented to the Duchess of Devonshire and now in the National Portrait Gallery.[15] The printing on the portrait says, "The Hon. Mrs. Reginald Talbot as a Valkyrie."[19]

"General the Hon. R. Talbot" wore a "uniform of his own regiment, time of Waterloo."[12]:36, Col. 3b

Other Talbots[edit | edit source]

Colonel Talbot (at 589) may have been Sir Wellington Patrick Manvers Chetwynd-Talbot, called Patrick Talbot[20]; he was apparently accompanied by a Mrs. Talbot, who would have been Lady Emma Chetwynd-Talbot (at 590).

Edmund Talbot (at 123) and his wife, probably, also attended, but they are Talbots rather than Cheywynd-Talbots.

Questions and Notes[edit | edit source]

  1. Ellen Mary Palmer-Morewood Mundy Chetwynd-Talbot was not an aristocrat, and she was older than Charles Chetwynd-Talbot and divorced with one daughter before they married, which they did less than 3 months before Charles John Alton Chetwynd-Talbot was born. She is not listed as having attended the Duchess of Devonshire's ball in 1897.
  2. I believe that "General Talbot" is likely to be Hon. Sir Reginald Arthur James Chetwynd-Talbot because he was a Conservative Member of Parliament, he was knighted and had command of large sectors of the British army.
  3. I believe that "Colonel Talbot" may have been Sir Wellington Patrick Manvers Chetwynd-Talbot because he was Serjeant at Arms of the House of Lords 1858–1898, ending with his death. He was a brother of Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot, 18th Earl of Shrewsbury.

Footnotes[edit | edit source]

  1. 1.0 1.1 "Charles Chetwynd-Talbot, 20th Earl of Shrewsbury". Wikipedia. 2020-07-15. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_Chetwynd-Talbot,_20th_Earl_of_Shrewsbury&oldid=967756727. 
  2. "Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot, 18th Earl of Shrewsbury." "Person Page". thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2020-10-20.
  3. "Lady Sarah Elizabeth Beresford." "Person Page". thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2020-10-20.
  4. "Charles John Chetwynd Chetwynd-Talbot, 19th Earl of Shrewsbury." "Person Page". thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2020-10-20.
  5. "Anna Theresa Cockerell." "Person Page". thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2020-10-20.
  6. 6.0 6.1 "Ellen Mary Palmer-Morewood." "Person Page". thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2020-10-20.
  7. "Charles Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot, 20th Earl of Shrewsbury." "Person Page". thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2020-10-20.
  8. "Reginald Talbot". Wikipedia. 2020-03-05. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reginald_Talbot&oldid=944105334. 
  9. "Margaret Jane Stuart-Wortley." "Person Page". thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2020-10-20.
  10. "Colonel Hon. Sir Wellington Patrick Manvers Chetwynd-Talbot." "Person Page". www.thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2020-10-20.
  11. "Lady Emma Charlotte Stanley." "Person Page". www.thepeerage.com. Retrieved 2020-10-20.
  12. 12.0 12.1 “The Duchess of Devonshire’s Ball.” The Gentlewoman 10 July 1897 Saturday: 32–42 [of 76], Cols. 1a–3c [of 3]. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0003340/18970710/155/0032.
  13. 13.0 13.1 "Fancy Dress Ball at Devonshire House." Morning Post Saturday 3 July 1897: 7 [of 12], Col. 4a–8 Col. 2b. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000174/18970703/054/0007.
  14. "Ball at Devonshire House." The Times Saturday 3 July 1897: 12, Cols. 1a–4c The Times Digital Archive. Web. 28 Nov. 2015.
  15. 15.0 15.1 "Devonshire House Fancy Dress Ball (1897): photogravures by Walker & Boutall after various photographers." 1899. National Portrait Gallery https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait-list.php?set=515.
  16. "Charles Henry John Chetwynd-Talbot, 20th Earl of Shrewsbury as a member of the Court of Catherine II of Russia." Diamond Jubilee Fancy Dress Ball. National Portrait Gallery https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw158426/Charles-Henry-John-Chetwynd-Talbot-20th-Earl-of-Shrewsbury-as-a-member-of-the-Court-of-Catherine-II-of-Russia.
  17. "The Morning’s News." London Daily News 18 September 1897, Saturday: 5 [of 8], Col. 2b. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0000051/18970918/027/0005.
  18. “The Duchess’s Costume Ball.” Westminster Gazette 03 July 1897 Saturday: 5 [of 8], Cols. 1a–3b [of 3]. British Newspaper Archive https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0002947/18970703/035/0005.
  19. "Hon. Mrs. Reginald Talbot as a Valkyrie." Diamond Jubilee Fancy Dress Ball. National Portrait Gallery https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait/mw158537/Margaret-Jane-ne-Stuart-Wortley-Lady-Talbot-as-a-Valkyrie.
  20. "Patrick Talbot". Wikipedia. 2019-10-18. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patrick_Talbot&oldid=921913773.