Talk:Web Science

i have an idea for communication

Lets use favourite social network and create a goup. --Renepick (discuss • contribs) 15:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I think the better discussion platform would be plain old mailing lists which is definitely not preffering a "single service" . Other open alternative would be to create special pages in this eiki itself and put them for voting ? --P A V I (discuss • contribs) 18:16, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I am definitely against using a profit-oriented social network. I guess our Newsgroup would not be an option because it would limit the interaction to students from Campus Landau or Koblenz? In this case, I would prefer a general mailing list too. --81.17.28.26 (discuss) 18:35, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I really like your attitude that you don't want to go for profit oriented social networks. I will see if we can install a mailinglist but it has to be open in the sense that anyone on the web can easily participate. So far a good way for participation will be the MOOC pages on wikiversity. Remember to check the box "Email me when a page or file on my watchlist is changed" in your user preferences at the top right of your screen --Renepick (discuss • contribs) 20:38, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Organisational questions

I was wondering when the first tutorial will take place. From personal experience, I would doubt that a tutorial took place tomorrow. --81.17.28.26 (discuss) 18:35, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

I am pretty sure that tomorrow won't be any tutorial yet but I will double check this with Steffen --Renepick (discuss • contribs) 20:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

This year the tutorial will be seminar style only. We will start in a few weeks time, but it will be announced in the flipped classroom sessions and it will only be for in class-students. --SteffenStaab (discuss • contribs) 05:58, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Maybe I have overheard it (although I could not find anything about it in the video either), but there isn't going to be a Seminar tomorrow, right? Will the mailing list be used to announce it? Or have I already missed a Seminar?

Communication on wiki pages

Please have a look at the manual provided by wikipedia help page

In summary the replies in a thread can be given by following this table.

Reply numer	Key to use
First Reply	:
Second Reply	::
Third Reply	:::

--P A V I (discuss • contribs) 18:24, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

thanks pavithrans you arte totally right. I forgot to mention this in the class. Could you please also provide this table in the introduction section of the MOOC which you can find at this link. --Renepick (discuss • contribs) 20:34, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Exam preparation materials.

Will we have some additional exam preparation materials? I mean, watching videos is good for learning but not so good for reviewing and repeating. On our usual lectures we have a lecture itself and slides for future review. Maybe it is better to accompany videos with some textual information like definitions and main ideas? Or maybe share the slides you use during the video creating process? Because preparing for the exam using just videos is somewhat hard (for me). --Sergeyd (discuss • contribs) 10:22, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I absolutey second what Sergey just said. --144.76.104.179 (discuss) 10:26, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

For future lessons we will try to also present transcripts of the videos but again there is also you who can work the wiki. You can add additional useful material. create summaries of wikipedia pages and so on. whatever helps you to better understand the topic is very welcome here --Renepick (discuss • contribs) 09:13, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Minimum packet size calculation in the ethernet.

Can you explain the minimum packet size calculation in the ethernet?

Quizzes seem to be partly broken

I realised that quizzes currently seem to ignore any additional comments on the answers starting with |. These comments are simply not shown in any quiz I tried. --Onse (discuss • contribs) 16:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

for me this works perfectly. Which browser are you using? I am on google chrome --Renepick (discuss • contribs) 08:56, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

After your comment, I tried it on my Chromium 32 (Linux) and it won't show. The same goes for Chrome 32 (Android) and Firefox 26 (Linux). I disabled ScriptSafe, AdBlock on Chromium, NoScript, AdBlock Edge and RequestPolicy on Firefox and HTTPS Everywhere on both as well as stopped my systemwide dnsmasq to be sure. I even routed my traffic through various VPNs but nothing changes. Currently, I do not see what could be wrong from my side. Let's take this quiz as a common example. Do you see the comments on this one? --Onse (discuss • contribs) 20:44, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

There are syntax errors in some quizzes. Explanations must have two vertical bars ||, not one |. --Onse (discuss • contribs) 20:51, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I hope your fixed the problem. Sorry for not remembering the syntax correctly during class... After the term I will have to spend quite some time cleaning up the wiki anyway. So thanks for your hint --Renepick (discuss • contribs) 17:35, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Citation in wikiversity

I'm experiencing a problem with citations for my seminar contribution.

The thing is that the templates for citing in wikiversity, wikipedia and wikibooks seem to have different implementations.

Now when I'm trying to cite a journal publication according to the Wikiversity:Citation_templates page I can use only two templates: Template:Cite_journal or Template:Citation. The problem is that the first one supports only One! author of the paper. Using the second template, I've found that it does not display page numbers and cuts authors after the fourth (only 4 authors of say 8 are displayed).

When tried to apply the same code for citation in one of wikipedia articles - it worked perfectly.

So the question is - should I leave it like this: with only 4 authors and no page numbers? Or maybe someone can give me an advice on how to cite properly in wikiversity? --Sergeyd (discuss • contribs) 16:37, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Usually with more than 4 authors just one author is used with "et al." If it doesn't work with "|pages=123|" lowercase p, then its broken. Still with what you described it is functional. 'citation' works better than 'cite journal.' If you really want to list more than 4 authors, the code can be edited, to copy the part for 5, 6, 7, 8 authors. We should be careful not to break the template, but mistakes can be undone on it.- Sidelight12 ^Talk 16:52, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

does it work with 8 authors now? - Sidelight12 ^Talk 17:00, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Nope. Only the part {{{inventor}}} is inserted instead of succeeding authors. Now it looks like this: Broder, A.; Kumar, R.; Maghoul, F.; Raghavan, P.; {{{inventor}}} (2000), "Graph structure in the Web", Computer Networks 33 (1-6) --Sergeyd (discuss • contribs) 17:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I only tried to fix the 'citation' template, not the other one. I must have broke something; I'll look again. - Sidelight12 ^Talk 17:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I see it now. in a few minutes. - Sidelight12 ^Talk 17:31, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

'citation' Should work. - Sidelight12 ^Talk 17:36, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Now it correctly shows 8 authors. Thanks! Maybe there is a way to fix the issue with pages not showing as well? --Sergeyd (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome. To add more authors to the citation, I copied parts of the code over and adjusted the numbers. I tried to figure out how to make 'pages' work. Other templates didn't offer enough clues to figure it out. Parts of code may come from mw:, but I'm unfamiliar with it. You may request help in the colloquium. - Sidelight12 ^Talk 02:06, 31 January 2014 (UTC)