Facilitating Online/Meetings/FO08-Facilitating, teaching and moderating
Joined on 19 August 2008 at 10:05
Greg Barcelon: Greg here, hello!
nancy riffer: Hi, Elderbob
violeta cautin: Hello everyone
violeta cautin: Thanks for the flower
Mary-Doug Wright: and hi from Vancouver, BC
Bee: Hello...good morning, afternoon, evening to all
Amy Lenzo: can you hear me?
nancy riffer: No, we can't
Bee: no cannot hera you
StaffMember: all fixed bee?
Bee: yes
StaffMember: yes
violeta cautin: yes
Amy Lenzo: yep- we can hear you!
Jeffrey Keefer: Hi, Bee!
Vida Thompson: Hi Bee
Greg Barcelon: Question: Is there a facility in the platform to see how each member of the community has been participating in the"course"?
violeta cautin: Nice to hear you, Bee!
Bee: Hi Violeta
Sarah Stewart: Hi Greg, I guess the main platform is each person's blogs
Bee: http://beespace.net
Daryl Cook: darylcook.com
nancy riffer: What is the role of the group discussion as it relates to the discussions between blogs.
Bee: definitions narrow down the complexity but are a good start for discussions
Bee: Hi Elderbob
StaffMember: lol
Amy Lenzo: http://allislight.typepad.com/facilitating_online_commu (Amy Lenzo's FOC blog)
StaffMember: http://eldertown.us/home
Sarah Stewart: LOL
StaffMember: yellow crookneck squash!?
Amy Lenzo: nice blog, elder!
Sarah Stewart: great to hear from you, elder
Jennifer Verschoor: Hello from Argentina
Sarah Stewart: Where's here eaxactly, elder?
violeta cautin: hmm I am hungry now
Daryl Cook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_crookneck_squash
Bee: Texas?
Sarah Stewart: wish we were there too!
Amy Lenzo: YUM!
Bee: Hmmm...smells delicious
Mary-Doug Wright: that squash is really delicious
Greg Barcelon: I did and I believe I am having diff with mic
Amy Lenzo: try when Leigh is off
Greg Barcelon: go ahead while i fix it
Bee: oh cucurbita pepo?
Elderbob Brannan: Maybe Gregg is cooking casserole too
violeta cautin: Hi Greg! I liked your definition of community it was really clear for me and structured.
StaffMember: yes
Amy Lenzo: hi Jeff!
Jeffrey Keefer: http://silenceandvoice.com/
violeta cautin: hear you wel
Amy Lenzo: we can hear you
Daryl Cook: good now
Bee: Hi Jeff
StaffMember: heard you too greg, so back to you next
Sarah Stewart: One of my all time dreams is to go to New York
Bee: beautiful city
Mary-Doug Wright: fantastic city - haven't been since '82
Sarah Stewart: Great to hear from soemone else in health
violeta cautin: how can I put the blog back? I'm so sorry
Sarah Stewart: might have to pop out
violeta cautin: I forgot everyone was seeing what I do in the slide
Amy Lenzo: click on the url, v
Amy Lenzo: go back up to where the link appeared & click it
StaffMember: yes
StaffMember: great
Amy Lenzo: yes!
Bee: hello Greg
violeta cautin: ok did it thanks
Jeffrey Keefer: If any of you make it to NYC, by all means let me know. Drinks are on me!
Amy Lenzo: ok!
Bee: I will...next year in April, Jeff
Amy Lenzo: bornea
Bee: Borneo?
violeta cautin: If you ever come to Iquique, drinks and empanadas!
Bee: Brunei?
Greg Barcelon: www.servant02.wordpress.com
Daryl Cook: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunei
Jennifer Verschoor: sorry can´t speak got my kids around
violeta cautin: If I navigate through the website in the web tour do you all see it?
Mary-Doug Wright: that makes me smile - it's my dogs I have to worry about
StaffMember: yes
violeta cautin: hello
violeta cautin: really soft
Bee: HI Mary
Jeffrey Keefer: Can hear you a little.
Jennifer Verschoor: very slow
Amy Lenzo: we can hear you, but you're very soft
Vida Thompson: yes i can hear you
Mary-Doug Wright: http://www.apexinformation.com/meldinme
Jeffrey Keefer: I love Vancouver. Went there for Northern Voice for the last two years.
Mary-Doug Wright: Actually, my name is Mary-Doug - it's confusing
Elderbob Brannan: Mary, have we met at Knowplace, before?
Sarah Stewart: Skip over me, Leigh - I'm trying to be too clever and have 2 meetings open so are audio is a little challenging. I am a squatter in this course. Am really here to see how things are going as I did the course last year. I am a midwifery lecturer at Dunedin in the same institution as Leigh: http://sarah-stewart.blogspot.com
StaffMember: Sorry Mary-Doug
Bee: no voice
Mary-Doug Wright: Knowplace - I don't know about this, so will check it out
nancy riffer: I'll check and listen again
Bee: sarah is multitasking
Mary-Doug Wright: No problem, people call me Mary all the time!
Daryl Cook: Mary-Doug. I see you love boxers. me too. i have a white one!
Amy Lenzo: maybe Nancy could introduce herself usign chat...?
Jeffrey Keefer: I can hardly hear you.
Mary-Doug Wright: Too funny. We'll have to talk boxers another time
Elderbob Brannan: http://knowplace.ca I do some work there.
Sarah Stewart: yep, thats Terry
Elderbob Brannan: Its near van couver.
Sean McKee: http://www.seanpmckee.net/blog
Bee: Hola Sean!
Elderbob Brannan: This is really a very impressive group.
Jennifer Verschoor: Very active group!!
Jennifer Verschoor: Just arrived from Japan and it´s hard to catch up
Bee: Were is Vida?
Bee: Where?
Elderbob Brannan: Yes, it is Jennifer...I am learning a lot just reading the post and following the links that come up.
nancy riffer: http://nowpracticingcommunity.blogspot.com
violeta cautin: I have no mic sorry
Vida Thompson: Sorry had to leave for a minute am back now
violeta cautin: I'm an English as a Foreign Language teacher in Chile
StaffMember: ok Vida. back to you in a tick
violeta cautin: htt://fco08violeta.blogspot.com
Vida Thompson: Ok
Bee: voice violeta?
Amy Lenzo: thanks, Nancy!
StaffMember: http://fco08violeta.blogspot.com/
Daryl Cook: @bee she hasnt got a mike
Sarah Stewart: I've got a headache trying to listen to 2 Elluminate conversations
StaffMember: lol
Amy Lenzo:
StaffMember: link vida?
violeta cautin: Bee: I'm the one that wrote you the other day. Thanks for your help
Bee: I know. You're welcome, Violeta
Jennifer Verschoor: Illya had a great idea about creating a buddy
Vida Thompson: http;//www.vidaFoc.blogspot.com
StaffMember: http://www.vidafoc.blogspot.com/
violeta cautin: yes! it was
Amy Lenzo: it might be a great exercise to summarize the definitions we came up with
Amy Lenzo:
Bee: on a wiki page
Elderbob Brannan: That would be a good permanent place to put the information.
Bee: absolutely
Elderbob Brannan: It strikes me that "Community" is more of an organic term, than something more definite.
Elderbob Brannan: Communites contiually change and grow.
Sean McKee: Perhaps people could add a comment to the course blog with a link back to the definition they had posted?
Amy Lenzo: perfect, sean
Bee: right
Bee: good
Amy Lenzo: but what's the course blog?
Sean McKee: http://facilitatingonlinecommunities.blogspot.com/
Amy Lenzo: we may lose the energy of the definition process if we wait that long...
Bee: I think we can summarize it
Amy Lenzo: agreed
Bee: all of us
Amy Lenzo: all of us, exactly
Bee: or those who are interested
Amy Lenzo:
Greg Barcelon: Sorry friends, I have to sign off and go to my face to face event today. I am on the 2nd day with 18 participants on a workshop that addresses Personal Effectiveness.
violeta cautin: wasn't that a project for the wiki week?
violeta cautin: good luck Greg
Jeffrey Keefer: Good luck with it, Greg!
Bee: we can lay the main threads
Elderbob Brannan: Nice to meet you Greg.
Greg Barcelon: thanks violeta, elderbob
Amy Lenzo: you're a brilliant facilitator, Leigh! I posted on the mailing list some of the reasons why
Bee: Why did you call the course facilitating online communities and not just facilitating online?
StaffMember: thanks Amy
StaffMember:
StaffMember: good on you Sean!
violeta cautin: I was impressed and a little bit intimidated by the experience of participants!
StaffMember: me too!
Jeffrey Keefer: You and I both, Violeta.
Jennifer Verschoor: I´ve been away so imagine how I feel!!
Vida Thompson: Sorry all I have to leave have 9 students in all of a sudden & can't do both. Will post to my blog & lsiten to teh recording
Amy Lenzo: we're taling about all kinds of things when we say "community" as we've shown in our definitions
Bee: exactly
Bee: community can be a "loaded" word
Elderbob Brannan: This is one of those moments, when I wish my stove was closer to my PC.....I could stir my squash and listen at the same time.
Amy Lenzo: there's a tendency to call any online interaction a "community"...
Elderbob Brannan: Bye Vida
violeta cautin: good point! like it loses its meaning from using it so much
Sean McKee: I like the idea of a comparison of online communities with offline ones. There are direct comparisons that are translatable to the online space but there are additional factors to consider when we rely upon technology to establish, nurture and evolve an online community group.
Daryl Cook: concur
StaffMember: nice
Bee: communities have borders and by having borders they are somehow divisive
StaffMember: hmm
Amy Lenzo: and on one level we are all part of the human community
Bee: how can you set up a community?
Bee: a community comes together
Amy Lenzo: so wherever we gather and connect with each other is part of that ability to "commune" together
Elderbob Brannan: You can establish a set of circumstances and hope for the best or maybe even do good faciilitation
Elderbob Brannan: and come up with "community"
Amy Lenzo: there has to be a need - a call for shared interaction about soemthing of importance to those called to participate
Sarah Stewart: I do think that 'community of practice' is the buzz phrase at the moment
Bee: what is the difference between a community of practice and a guild/
Elderbob Brannan: Ex. Give everyone a similar technology and let them use it to create from.
Sarah Stewart: COP is supposed to fix all ills
Jennifer Verschoor: must leave now. Will start following closely this COP
Sarah Stewart: LOL jeffrey
Sarah Stewart: bye jennifer
Elderbob Brannan: I live in one community that developed from a set of physical circumstances, but it also contains a community of practice based on the primary source of income here.
Daryl Cook: old habits die hard eh JK?
Elderbob Brannan: Bye Jennifer.
Bee: ciao Jennifer
Sean McKee: Rather than using the often-mentioned "Community of Practice" perhaps we are instead talking about "working groups." I think that "community" goes beyond a narrowly focused set of interests.
Bee: why call online courses ...communities? they are classes, courses which eventually may (or not) form a community
Sarah Stewart: agree bee
Jeffrey Keefer: That is exactly what I recently blogged about as well.
Elderbob Brannan: Yes and no, Sean....it might and it might not.
Daryl Cook: oh no, not the squash!
Amy Lenzo: I just blogged about that too! It MUST be true
Bee: lol
StaffMember: Jeffery brought up aspects of barriers to community (the sense of) - in this case - technology.. and in other cases, income and access to tech
Jeffrey Keefer: I agree, Amy!
Elderbob Brannan: Are we using the right word, Bee? Is there some better phrase that fits the subject.
malikrichardson: You cannot have a community w/o relationships...
StaffMember: realtionships and trust
Elderbob Brannan: Even relationships and trust are not absolutes....they can be measured at many levels.
Bee: just facilitation online
Elderbob Brannan: there are communities of little trust and those of great trust.
Amy Lenzo: each of those titles mean something unique and specific, Leigh.
Elderbob Brannan: BRB, I have to stir.
Amy Lenzo: what the course is called (should) indicate the content
Daryl Cook: thought: control does not work in complex environments
Jeffrey Keefer: These times work for us, as we are all here now. Is there a way to send a poll to the entire email group?
Bee: do not give your thoughts
Bee: do not bias us
Bee: lol
Bee: when do we start SL pre-facilitation?
Sarah Stewart: we can arrange to meet up any time we fancy cant we?
Amy Lenzo: I'm sorry, friends, I have another call I have to go to now. I'm so glad I figured out how to get on this platform (I couldn't get it to work on Leopard, and had to use another computer)! See you on the course, and on my blog! I look forward to hearing the record of the rest of the conversation...
Sarah Stewart: bye amy
Elderbob Brannan: Im gonna have to listen to the recording, my supper commands my attention.
Elderbob Brannan: Im in a squash casserole community right now.
Sarah Stewart: enjoy elder
Bee: are you posting the text chats from these meetings in Elluminate on the wiki, Leigh?
Bee: so we can browse quickly and not have to log into Elluminate?
Bee: good
Daryl Cook: thanks folks ciao
Elderbob Brannan: I have enjoyed it all very much.
Jeffrey Keefer: Thank you!!!
Sean McKee: Thank you!
Bee: thanks Leigh and it was great to meet you
Mary-Doug Wright: bye all - thanks so much and nice to meet you
Jeffrey Keefer: bye Amy
Elderbob Brannan: be sure to get a bowl of virtual squash casserole as you exit the room.
Sarah Stewart: cheers, and take care everyone
Bee: thanks...tastes soooo goood
nancy riffer: Thank you, all.
Elderbob Brannan: Thanks and bye.
Sarah Stewart: bye
Jeffrey Keefer: See you all online.
Sean McKee: See you on the blogs!
Left on 19 August 2008 at 11:07