Talk:WikiJournal of Science/Baryonyx

WikiJournal of Science/Baryonyx

Plagiarism check

Pass. WMF copyvio tool using TurnItIn. Some uncontroversial instances of standard phrasing as expected for the subject matter ("the opening of the Tethys", "teeth in the lower jaw"), otherwise unique content. --Florian (Elmidae) (talk · contribs) 14:14, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

First peer review

reviewer-annotated pdf

Review by Christophe Hendrickx , University of the Witwatersrand
These assessment comments were submitted on 11 May 2018, and refer to this previous version of the article

The authors did a very good job given that the article is well-organized and relatively thorough. Yet, some sections can be improved and expanded, and the text can certainly be better referenced. I would, therefore, like to review the revised version of this article a second time before its publication. Here are the major points that I wish to see addressed by the authors before publication:

- Please first describe the skull of Baryonyx then the postcranium. Expand the description of the postcranium to include succinct information on the braincase, tall dorsal neural spine, pelvis, hindlimbs and tail based on the comparison with the closely related taxon Suchomimus. Please also mention the preserved bones of the holotype in the descriptive part of the article.

- Please mention the abstract of Munt et al. (2017) on the additional Baryonyx material recently unearthed from the Isle of Wight. They have been illustrated in their poster available on their ResearchGate profile.

- Develop the historical section on the discovery of Suchosaurus. This story is particularly interesting in regards to discovery of the first theropod remains and the first theropod to be named.

- Provide a brief list of synapomorphies for Spinosaurinae and Baryonychinae.

- Provide additional information on the palaeobiogeography and extinction of Spinosauridae based on the recent work of Candeiro et al. (2017).

- Discuss the hump/sail hypothesis (Bailey, 1997; Gimsa et al. 2015) proposed to explain the hypertrophied dorsal neural spines of Spinosauridae in a small paragraph.

- Cite and briefly mention the recent study of Sales et al. (2016) and Hassler et al. (2018) on Spinosauridae in the palaeogeography and palaeobiology sections.

See attached pdf file for detailed in-text comments.

Second peer review

Review by Andrew Cuff , Royal Veterinary College
These assessment comments were submitted on 13 May 2018, and refer to this previous version of the article

Overall

I think most of the writing is decent, and information is there. I would suggest that the authors have a look at making sure all statements are referenced appropriately throughout the manuscript. This would be of particular interest for areas where each sentence has a statement, but the reference doesn’t appear until the end of the paragraph. Can I also suggest there is consistency with regards to referencing authors/studies. Some studies get full author names (e.g. Charig and Milner found) others are just described as “a study found” without any obvious reason as to why.

I would also suggest that there could be a better ordering/rearranging of the manuscript as the description, history and classification sections present information that might belong in the others. In fact, I think the best solution might just be a rearrangement so it is ordered history, description and classification in that order.

Specific comments

I think the opening section should have references throughout which currently is unreferenced.

I would remove conference abstracts as they aren’t fully published data (or you need to add in a lot more abstracts e.g. Fowler D, 2007. Recently rediscovered baryonychine teeth (Dinosauria: Theropoda): new morphologic data, range extension and similarity to ceratosaurs)

Additionally there is a new reference that has appeared during the review period that pertains to aquatic habits of spinosaurs from Aureliano et al., 2018., (Semi-aquatic adaptations in a spinosaur from the Lower Cretaceous of Brazil. Cretaceous Research. doi:10.1016/j.cretres.2018.04.024.) that deserves checking/mentioning.

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• Thanks for the reviews so far. It has been a slow start, summer and all, but I am currently implementing these suggestions to the Wikipedia version of the article, and will later transfer them here. FunkMonk (discuss • contribs) 16:51, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Additional peer review on Wikipedia

Comments by a team of wikipedia editors ,
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This location contains an additional internal peer review discussion that was conducted by several Wikipedia editors.

Author response to reviews

Response

I have now adjusted the article according to the peer reviews, and to sum up the changes, the article has been expanded significantly with new sources that were published after this article was first nominated for Featured Article back in 2015, I have included the names of all writers cited (as well as added more references to the already cited sources), and added/replaced a few more images. Below is a list of suggestions I have not implemented and explanations why:

• I have kept the mention of changing specimen numbers though it was suggested I removed this, since it will make it easier for readers to check the older literature, if they so wish.
• I have kept the Gregory S. Paul citations though it was suggested I remove them; even the Therrien & Henderson source I was asked to use instead (which I have now added) cites him, so it would seem like an oversight.
• It was asked that I list the known material in the description section, I guess so the reader would know what material is present by the time they read that section, but I have instead changed the structure so that the history section comes first (based on the other reviewer's comment), and therefore also the list of known bones, which should solve both issues.
• It was suggested I should mention that Suchosaurus was the first theropod named, but this seems to be incorrect (Megalosaurus was named earlier), but I have added that it was the first named spinosaur, which might be what was meant.
• I have not moved the text about the mandible up before the text about the rest of the skull, but I guess that was suggested because the structure in the original paragraph about the skull was confusing, but that has since been changed
• I have added info about habitat and niche partitioning to the section about aquatic behaviour rather than to the palaeoenvironment section, as the info is more generally about spinosaurids and their possible semi-aquatic life than Baryonyx specifically.
• I have added more conference abstracts rather than removing those I had cited.
• It was suggested that I add citations to the abstract/intro, though this is usually discouraged both in Wikipedia and in scientific journals. As a compromise, I have added some key citations to the end of each paragraph of the abstract/intro.

FunkMonk (discuss • contribs) 21:23, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Note: summary of all edits since submission here. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)^talk 01:19, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Comments on author revisions by reviewers

Comments by Christophe Hendrickx

I'm fully satisfied with what I read and the way the article is now organized. The author did an excellent job and took into account the large majority of my comments and suggestions. I actually agree with him about keeping the specimen number and reference to Gregory Paul. I was indeed incorrect in believing (with some doubt though) that Suchosaurus was the first theropod to be named, it's actually one of the first dinosaurs to be named. In any event, I support the publication of this article and would like to congratulate the main author for his job. This will hopefully invite him to carry on his excellent job for other articles on theropods and dinosaurs. (posted from email communication with permission --Florian (Elmidae) (talk · contribs) 15:42, 27 March 2019 (UTC))