Talk:Web Design/The Structure of HTML

The examples using the bold and italics should probably be replaced with strong and em tags. Though bold and italics apparently are not depricated in HTML-4.01, or xHTML-1.1, they appear to have been dropped from the xHTML-2.0 draft specification. —Wikijeff 03:48, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The intent was to take someone comepletly unfamiliar with any actual HTML tags and to show them how to use them to 'mark-up' content. I used bold and italics so that the relationship between the tag and the result could be more clearly shown. I do not have any problems with it being changed, as long as the relationship can be clearly explained. I wanted to avoid any discussion of Separation of Style and Content at this level in order to keep the activity short and to keep a very tight focus. I think a separate activity or less on Separation of Style and Content would be the best way to adress the issue. I think any of the above proposed changes should take place if it can be done without changing the point of the lesson: To introduce the idea and form of HTML elements. -- Talonhawk 04:25, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

HTML vs XHTML

Perhaps a fork of this article to an intro to XHTML might help alleviate the confusion for totally new web designers? Especially in the case of those who are not yet familiar with the terminology used. I am concerned that a discussion of DOCTYPE in this article/lesson/activity would be a bit premature. Talonhawk 18:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Agree that a discussion of DOCTYPE would be a bit premature. I've just cleaned up What is HTML, in those examples I've included a DOCTYPE but it's not discussed at all, it's just part of what people cut-n-paste. (Also, check out the new Activity template, needs some style yet)

As for discussion of separation of style and content, I'm of the opinion that everything should be introduced slowly... rather than saving it all up for one main activity later on. To see an example of what I mean, take a look at the activity at the start of Build a basic web page. So rather than discussing the separation of style and content at an early stage, if we just model it, that should be enough... my 2c! Michaelnelson 19:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree, understanding what semantic content even means from a philosophical standpoint can be daunting at first. It is very much like naming conventions for files, people will learn over time as they see examples of *good* methods of naming and organizing files. Talonhawk 20:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Try it! to Activity

I noticed the Activity template on a few other pages and thought it would be appropriate to use here in place of the Try it! sections I started. I have been having trouble having the example code inside the template section and still display the same. If any of you have more experience with that template, I would love some help.

By the way, I have avoided using pre intentionally so I can simulate syntax highlighting. If there is a better or different way of producing hte same effect, I would greatly appreciate any help. Talonhawk 01:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... seems that it doesn't like the <font> tag. Works fine if I use <code> instead of <font>. Will try to look into soon... Michaelnelson 12:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Talonhawk 03:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC)