Talk:United Kingdom Law/Reform/Draft Homicide Bill

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Draft Homicide Bill[edit]

What about applicability to the Armed Forces? Sfan00 IMG (discusscontribs) 18:47, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

On Suicides[edit]

I would suggest consideration of the following amendments.

In Section 3: Number existing section (1) and add sub-section (2) as follows : "(2) Also, any attempt shall also not be an offence."

Although this may seem obvious, I feel there is a legal distinction between an actual offence and an attempt, As a Suicide could not be an offence under this Bill, it would create an anomaly if an attempt were.

In Section 6 number existing section (1) and add sub-section (2) as follows "(2)For the purposes of Section 4,5 a course of conduct shall be read as including (but not limited to)- (a) any relevant communication by D to D2, irrespective of the form of that communication: (b) any unreasonable act by D which placed D2 under- (i) extreme physical or mental distress. (ii) extreme physical or mental duress. "

This amendment expands upon the definition give, paragraph 2(a) is intended to ensure that encouragements delivered by electronic means are included within the intended scope of the offense described in Sections 4,5. b(i) and b(ii) expand upon the definition given in Subsection, 5.(3) .

Sfan00 IMG (discusscontribs) 11:31, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

If suicide is not an offence, attempted suicide cannot be an offence under the Criminal Attempts Act 1981, because of the way that Act is drafted: "intent to commit an offence", "more than merely preparatory to the commission of the offence" (my emphasis). James500 (discusscontribs) 15:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Ah, so it's already covered by existing legislation. (which is something an expanatory note would cover). Sfan00 IMG (discusscontribs) 09:54, 13 September 2013 (UTC)