Talk:Inclusivity and Diversity: What Can We Learn from Israel and Palestine?

Edit war with an obvious vandal

@Marshallsumter: How do you suggest we respond to an edit war over this article?

This article is a transcript of a public presentation by Hanan Ashrawi, noted Palestinian leader.

User:8003:5421:1400:2cb3:8d1c:b8a7:38ae changed a link to an associated podcast so it no longer works and changed the text so it clearly does not reflect what the presenter said -- and has repeatedly reverted my reversions with comments like, "yeah, nah. Don't think so." No citations, No argument. Just repeated obvious vandalism.

None of the options on Wikiversity:Page protection templates seem appropriate here, and that page is only a proposal. The "Protected data template" there comes close, but I'd want its application restricted only to the actual transcript, and users could still be allowed to add links and footnotes while possibly correcting obvious transcription errors.

w:WP:SEMI seems to be appropriate in this case.

After that, I think this article should be rolled back to the version of 06:39, 21 January 2018‎. Then I'd want to expand the opening "rush transcript" line to read as follows:

This is a rush transcript and may not be in its final form. Anyone finding errors or confusing statements is invited to correct them here or raise them in the accompanying "Discuss" page or add updates in notes.

Differences of opinion are welcomed on the associated "Discuss" page. Alternative perspectives written from a neutral point of view citing credible sources can be added in a "Discussion" or other section(s) at the end, as long as others are treated with respect. Notes linking to those or other comments can be added inline using the standard MediaWiki markup <ref>(this is a comment that would appear in a "Notes" section at the end)</ref>.

And I'd want to add an empty "Notes" section at the end consisting of something like {{reflist}}.

I think how we handle this could be a valuable model for how Wikiversity might contribute to nonviolent conflict resolution. Peter Binkley in an invited 2006 article for the Canadian Library Association magazine Feliciter said that on controversial topics "the two sides actually engaged each other and negotiated a version of the [Wikipedia] article that both can more or less live with. This is a rare sight indeed in today’s polarized political atmosphere, where most online forums are echo chambers for one side or the other.” If we handle this properly, it can increase the value of Wikiversity in helping build bridges over the walls of vicious rhetoric that otherwise amplify racist rhetoric.

How do you suggest we respond to this obvious vandalism? Thanks, DavidMCEddy (discuss • contribs) 15:30, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

@Marshallsumter: Thanks for your reversion of the vandalism. With luck, that will end it. If not, I have confidence that you know how to resolve this problem in other ways. DavidMCEddy (discuss • contribs) 16:21, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

References

Yasser Arafat (aka The man of Peace?)

@MathXplore: The changes you are making are changes to a transcript of what w:Hanan Ashrawi said at the Unity Temple on the Plaza, Kansas City, Missouri, USA, 2017-10-16.

Have you listened to the podcast of a portion of this presentation at Jaws of Justice radio for October 30, 2017 on KKFI.org? What does she say?

If you want to claim that w:Yasser Arafat was "The man of Peace", please add that in a new "Discussion" section at the end of this article along with credible citations. The Wikipedia article on him says, "In the latter part of the 1950s, Arafat co-founded Fatah, a paramilitary organization seeking the removal of Israel and its replacement with a Palestinian state." That included launching "attacks on Israeli targets." That would seem to contradict your claim.

Changing "12 percent" to "13 percent" should similarly be done via a comment with a credible citation in a new "Discussion" section. DavidMCEddy (discuss • contribs) 14:46, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

@DavidMCEddy: It's not me who made that change. It was done by an IP (possibly w:WP:LTA/GRP). I just set semi-protection to the article to prevent edits by IP block evaders (and sorry, I forgot to revert that change). I have no specific claims or further knowledge about this subject. MathXplore (discuss • contribs) 14:55, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

The involved IP is Special:Contributions/181.46.139.131. Since this is a WMF banned user (and frequently changes IP), there is no need to discuss with them. MathXplore (discuss • contribs) 15:02, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification AND for your work to counter vandals.

I should have looked more carefully at the edit trail. DavidMCEddy (discuss • contribs) 15:28, 28 July 2023 (UTC)