Talk:French/Wall Charts and Posters
Add topicDiscussion of Verb Conjugation wall charts
[edit source]Sources of information
[edit source]- Becherelle: "Complete Guide to Conjugating 12 000 French Verbs" Hatier, Paris Fevrier 1995 ISBN 978-2-218-06591-0
- Dictionnaire Flaminarion de la Langue Française (1999) ISBN 2-08-082006-0
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[edit source]The intention is for each table row to occupy one line of printed text, but this is rather difficult to get right on all kinds of computers and printers. If you would like the text or images to be larger or smaller, I suggest you copy the wiki text to your own user page and make whatever adjustments you like. The IPA symbol image sizes can be easily adjusted from the current height of 25 pixels by replacing the text "25x25px" by "30x30px" (or any other suitable number). Recent Runes 22:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
R Symbol
[edit source]This table uses the upright "R" symbol as this is used in most dictionaries, but the inverted one is also available here. 
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[edit source]I am looking for a dictionary with phonetics for other verbs. If you have more information, please pass it on and I will create more material. Recent Runes 22:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
- Most good dictionaries will have full phonetics; my French dictionary does... of course, once you know the pronunciation, the rest is easy. You're looking for a dictionary online, though, I suppose? The Jade Knight (d'viser) 06:12, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- I only found one dictionary that gives the pronunciation for the different verb conjugations for just 5 verbs. In all the other dictionaries, just the infinitive has any pronunciation associated with it. If you know of any dictionary with pronunciation for the conjugation tables of any other verbs, please let me know. Recent Runes 10:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
- With regular verbs, the pronunciation is consistent, and with many of the irregular verbs it follows predefined rules. The Jade Knight (d'viser) 06:23, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but are there any authoritative publications that define all the pronunciation rules? Also, such rules often seem quite technical and difficult for the student. e.g. "Some sequences of glide + vowel can be found after obstruent-liquid onsets". I think you would need to be quite advanced before you could understand terminology like that. Recent Runes 13:36, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- Unforuntately, I'm not aware of any right off the top of my head, but I'll keep my eyes open. The Jade Knight (d'viser) 19:01, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- It looks like the web site of the Centre National de Ressources Textuelles et Lexicales has a lot of relevant information, including conjugation tables of verbs with phonetics. (see [1]) Recent Runes 23:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
- Unforuntately, I'm not aware of any right off the top of my head, but I'll keep my eyes open. The Jade Knight (d'viser) 19:01, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, but are there any authoritative publications that define all the pronunciation rules? Also, such rules often seem quite technical and difficult for the student. e.g. "Some sequences of glide + vowel can be found after obstruent-liquid onsets". I think you would need to be quite advanced before you could understand terminology like that. Recent Runes 13:36, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- With regular verbs, the pronunciation is consistent, and with many of the irregular verbs it follows predefined rules. The Jade Knight (d'viser) 06:23, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- I only found one dictionary that gives the pronunciation for the different verb conjugations for just 5 verbs. In all the other dictionaries, just the infinitive has any pronunciation associated with it. If you know of any dictionary with pronunciation for the conjugation tables of any other verbs, please let me know. Recent Runes 10:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)