Talk:Bible/King James/Documentary Hypothesis/Genesis
Add topicLatest comment: 7 months ago by Huz and Buz in topic Jahwist/Elohist
I was wondering what source was used to compile this, because I have found that some of the isolated sources don't reflect this article, and found contradictory information elsewhere on the web.--86.165.76.14 08:39, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- I endorse this question completely; the only complete assignments I know of are Friedman, for which this would be a copyright violation; Reuss for which it wouldn't but you would have to read French to figure him out; and Astruc who only assigned Genesis. So which is it? 71.163.117.143 (discuss) 03:15, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
- It seems like people are editing this based on their personal preference. There are no citations. Something needs to be done to maintain consistency.--Jcvamp (discuss • contribs) 18:42, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- This is fairly old, but Joel Baden (a respected source critical bible scholar) is currently giving a verse by verse analysis of the Pentateuch according to the contemporary neo-DH. I'm planning on using this as a guide to update this article, but since discussion exists, thought I should bring up the idea here first. Huz and Buz (discuss • contribs) 20:09, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
- It seems like people are editing this based on their personal preference. There are no citations. Something needs to be done to maintain consistency.--Jcvamp (discuss • contribs) 18:42, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
The choice of colors for the different sources is AWFUL: I could barely tell the difference at times.--Mwidunn (discuss • contribs) 03:59, 13 July 2014 (UTC)mwidunn
Jahwist/Elohist
[edit source]The Jahwist and Elohist sources are no longer treated as substantial by scholars and are today treated as a whole source, so I think Wikimedia should do the same. GOLDIEM J (discuss • contribs) 10:59, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I used the source divisions provided by Joel Baden because they are detailed and contemporary. He explains why he believes in a separate E source in his book "The Composition of the Pentateuch: Renewing the Documentary Hypothesis." There's a lot of disagreement on the sources obviously, so maybe in consideration of this there should be a way to see the JE source as one document, like you currently can with J, E, P, and D. Huz and Buz (discuss • contribs) 18:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! I've read Who Wrote The Bible by Friedman and The Composition Of The Pentateuch by Baden. I hoped Composition would have source identification by verse, but it doesn't. Where can I find Baden's work? I have seen the info here, but I'd like to know the source. I checked some of the Twitter references, and didn't see what I was looking for. Thanks, Scott LoreOfYore (discuss • contribs) 17:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- It's a little hard to navigate, but the pinned tweet thread on Joel Baden's account contains all of his source identifications, verse by verse. Huz and Buz (discuss • contribs) 21:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello! I've read Who Wrote The Bible by Friedman and The Composition Of The Pentateuch by Baden. I hoped Composition would have source identification by verse, but it doesn't. Where can I find Baden's work? I have seen the info here, but I'd like to know the source. I checked some of the Twitter references, and didn't see what I was looking for. Thanks, Scott LoreOfYore (discuss • contribs) 17:27, 27 April 2024 (UTC)