Should Ukraine surrender to Russia in 2022?: Revision history

9 January 2024

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22 December 2023

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17 December 2023

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7 December 2023

• curprev 08:4008:40, 7 December 2023‎ 68.2.50.197 discuss‎ 20,428 bytes +1,443‎ Reply to objection (Arguments against) undo Tag: Visual edit

17 November 2023

• curprev 14:4214:42, 17 November 2023‎ Dan Polansky discuss contribs‎ 18,985 bytes +29‎ +national self-determination undo
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16 November 2023

• curprev 06:1606:16, 16 November 2023‎ 103.87.104.4 discuss‎ 18,594 bytes −8‎ →‎Ukraine should surrender to Russia in 2022 undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit

29 September 2023

• curprev 08:4808:48, 29 September 2023‎ 82.16.17.35 discuss‎ 18,602 bytes +4‎ Edit objection: Some lives yes, but it is not clear more lives would be lost. And Russia would have no interest to destroy infrastructure when it can instead take it over. If Russia is after territorial expansion and natural resources as it seems to be, it does not have a deep interest in killing civilians other than as a means of terror as part of a war. Hitler did not kill all that many Czechs in Bohemia and Moravia (part of today's Czechia) either, and he was a real monster. The countries... undo Tag: Reverted

18 September 2023

• curprev 08:5708:57, 18 September 2023‎ Quinlan83 discuss contribs‎ 18,598 bytes +906‎ Revert to a stable version: the IP was contacted on his talk and ignored the message undo Tag: Manual revert
• curprev 08:4908:49, 18 September 2023‎ 82.16.17.35 discuss‎ 17,692 bytes −231‎ Edit objection: russia will not do anything bad undo Tag: Reverted
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• curprev 08:3908:39, 18 September 2023‎ 82.16.17.35 discuss‎ 18,191 bytes −1‎ Edit objection: well thats the reason why ukraine will lose russia is  a massive w lead by putin the goat there is no chance that ukraine will win unless the ukrainian presisdent is h.i.m undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 08:3808:38, 18 September 2023‎ 82.16.17.35 discuss‎ 18,192 bytes −406‎ Add objection: well thats the reason why ukraine will lose more russiais a massive w lead by putin the goat there is no chance that ukraine will win unless the ukrainian presisdent is h.i.m undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 08:3008:30, 18 September 2023‎ Quinlan83 discuss contribs‎ 18,598 bytes +598‎ Reverted 1 edit by 82.16.17.35 (talk): Stop, thanks (TwinkleGlobal) undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 08:2808:28, 18 September 2023‎ 82.16.17.35 discuss‎ 18,000 bytes −598‎ Edit objection: russia biggest w ever we love putin undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 08:2808:28, 18 September 2023‎ Quinlan83 discuss contribs‎ m 18,598 bytes +497‎ Undid edits by 82.16.17.35 (talk) to last version by Quinlan83 undo Tags: Undo SWViewer [1.4]
• curprev 08:2708:27, 18 September 2023‎ 82.16.17.35 discuss‎ 18,101 bytes −488‎ Edit objection: all lives will be lost come on russia we love russia undo Tag: Reverted
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• curprev 08:2308:23, 18 September 2023‎ 82.16.17.35 discuss‎ 18,689 bytes +91‎ Add objection: russia massive w and ukraine massive skill issue undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 08:2008:20, 18 September 2023‎ Quinlan83 discuss contribs‎ 18,598 bytes −25‎ Restored revision 2548156 by Dan Polansky (talk): Rb (TwinkleGlobal) undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 08:2008:20, 18 September 2023‎ 82.16.17.35 discuss‎ 18,623 bytes +5‎ Edit objection: It may result in many Ukrainians losing their lives anyway, and maybe even more lives long-term.ratio undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 08:1908:19, 18 September 2023‎ 82.16.17.35 discuss‎ 18,618 bytes +20‎ Edit argument: If Ukraine surrenders, it will save many Ukrainian lives and prevent of lot of damage to country infrastructure including civilian buildings. Given the amount of missiles that Russia can fire at Ukraine, it is very unclear whether Ukraine can defend itself. And if Russia is truly determined to take Ukraine, they may use tactical nuclear weapons as well. It all depends on how much sane or reckless those in Russia that are in power are. Fighting a nuclear superpower is a very unc... undo Tag: Reverted

20 August 2023

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• curprev 14:0714:07, 20 August 2023‎ CitationsFreak discuss contribs‎ 16,655 bytes +72‎ Just saying... undo Tag: Visual edit: Switched

3 August 2023

• curprev 04:5404:54, 3 August 2023‎ 221.138.106.203 discuss‎ 16,583 bytes +93‎ Add objection: Ukraine will probably run out of Soviet SAMs by the time F16s arrive undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit
• curprev 04:5404:54, 3 August 2023‎ 221.138.106.203 discuss‎ 16,490 bytes +93‎ Add objection: Ukraine will probably run out of Soviet SAMs by the time F16s arrive undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit
• curprev 04:4004:40, 3 August 2023‎ 221.138.106.203 discuss‎ 16,397 bytes +5‎ Edit objection: That is defeatist and cowardly. If all democracies (or semi-democracies did that) in 1945, the Nazis would have gained and kept much of Europe, and Japan have much of China, in 1865, the southern states might still have slavery, in 1784, the US would still be a British colony. undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit

17 July 2023

• curprev 00:4100:41, 17 July 2023‎ Omphalographer discuss contribs‎ 16,392 bytes −494‎ revert - name-calling and repeating misinformation is not an acceptable form of argument undo Tag: Manual revert

16 July 2023

• curprev 21:1121:11, 16 July 2023‎ 109.143.45.168 discuss‎ 16,886 bytes +269‎ Add objection: Now Zelensky regime is turning against Ukrainians who want to live in Ukraine  and do not want to be a part of Nazi Banderastan. In 2014 Ukraine gas disapeared and was replaced by Banderastan but forgot to change the name to keep their status in ONU. undo Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit
• curprev 21:0721:07, 16 July 2023‎ 109.143.45.168 discuss‎ 16,617 bytes +163‎ Add objection: Russia doesn't killing civilians, most of civilians were killed by Zelensky regime. US killed a lot of civilians in Iraq, Afganostan and Vitnam undo Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit
• curprev 21:0321:03, 16 July 2023‎ 109.143.45.168 discuss‎ 16,454 bytes +62‎ Add objection: Holodomor is a fake of Bandera propaganda undo Tags: Reverted Mobile edit Mobile web edit

25 May 2023

• curprev 01:3801:38, 25 May 2023‎ DMBFFF discuss contribs‎ 16,392 bytes +294‎ 370 days into ≥453; Russian polls are probably less reliable than Western polls, boomers less likely to be conscripted than young men, many have left Russia, and Russian values aren't (totally) different to the West.  undo

4 April 2023

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• curprev 14:0214:02, 4 April 2023‎ MathXplore discuss contribs‎ 16,098 bytes −302‎ Reverted 1 edit by 41.96.83.103 (talk): Rv spam (TwinkleGlobal) Tag: Undo
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17 March 2023

• curprev 21:0521:05, 17 March 2023‎ SpanishSnake discuss contribs‎ 16,098 bytes +96‎ merge similar Ukraine defense arguments. Rewrite pro-ukraine arguments. undo
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