User talk:Tegel

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Hello Tegel, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon Button sig.png in the edit window makes it simple. All users are expected to abide by our Privacy policy, Civility policy, and the Terms of Use while at Wikiversity.

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You don't need to be an educator to edit. You only need to be bold to contribute and to experiment with the sandbox or your userpage. See you around Wikiversity! --Devourer09 (t·c) 19:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

How are you doing? Reply on my talk page please. Coffee shop II (discusscontribs) 16:53, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I'm fine. And your account is locked for cross-wiki abuse. -- Tegel (discusscontribs) 17:09, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Need help[edit]

I need to know, from you, what a learning resource is on Wikiversity? --The Gir’s and Sing 17:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry but I can't help you with that . I'm only here when I resolve cross-wiki issues. -- Tegel (discusscontribs) 18:40, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
You are pretty useful here, a lot of trolls are following you here. --The Gir’s and Sing 21:39, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Your blanking of spam[edit]

Thanks for your attention to potential spam on Wikiversity.[1] What may be considered spam elsewhere may be allowed on Wikiversity. In this case, it looks like the link is legitimate, it should be allowed unless there is evidence of, say, a dangerous web site, hosting malware or the like. The site has advertising. We are not concerned about that, we will focus on usefulness to our users. If there is evidence of COI, we will want that to be pointed out and the user would be encouraged to disclose it.

I do not expect you to make those judgments, you already have plenty to do without that complication, so your removals were completely proper. I just want you to understand that, in this case, we will allow the link, and I hope the user is not sanctioned based only on adding it here. I will warn the user about adding links elsewhere without obtaining consensus first.Done.

Thanks again for your support for Wikiversity maintenance. It's appreciated. --Abd (discusscontribs) 16:19, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I'm well aware of the different scope of different wikis and that the criteria may differ. Cross-wiki linkspam doesn't just concern one wiki, it's a global issue. I have asked the user here if there is any connection to the web page, but no reply yet. Two different IP-addresses has added the link on multiple wikis as well, so I have no hope in getting a reply from the user. -- Tegel (discusscontribs) 16:32, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes. It is entirely possible, even likely, that this user may have a COI. Here, many of our users have strong COI, that's common for experts and we have many experts. As is now WMF policy, we want users to disclose COI. Here, it will not be held against them, and we will make that clear. (That is, disclosed COI will hardly ever be a problem, but hidden COI combined with disruptive action can be a big problem.) The COI of the user is a completely separate issue from the legitimacy of the link, and we are clear about that.
I want to affirm that your action removing the link and globally blocking at least one IP seems perfectly legitimate, as within normal anti-spam practice. (Non-Wikimedians do not understand the usage of "spam" as we use it, so the user was also possibly correct in denying that the link was "spam," as to his own, non-specialized language. Part of our mission on Wikiversity is education.)
Here, we have a user account with email enabled. This is a user we may be able to communicate with, and we may be able to prevent extended cross-wiki disruption. Basically, we show users how to do what they want legitimately, without causing problems. If it fails, tant pis. At least we tried. With true spammers, these efforts almost always fail. Still, once in a while, I'll drop a message. It's not difficult. But true spammers don't usually have email enabled and they do not respond at all. I think this is most likely a clueless COI and chances are good there will be response. After all, an offer of free help?
I can't place a link on enwiki, due to minor inconvenience there, but I can on any other wiki. I know how to do this without causing disruption, I did it years ago with a globally blacklisted site, blacklisted because of COI editing. It simply takes a little patience.
This is just FYI. Again, thanks. --Abd (discusscontribs) 16:52, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
TegelThe reason I have not replied is because you did in fact block my home IP address - thanks again by the way although I probably should have logged in rather than posting anonymously. That was my mistake. Anyways now I'm forced to reply to all of these comments from work. I am not a spammer. As you said Abd spammers wouldn't take the time to defend themselves or discuss anything rationally. Don't worry guys I understand now - I won't be adding anymore external links without taking what each of you have said into consideration. -- Pauloz1890 1:59, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Curator Rights[edit]

Thank you for your long-time support of Wikiversity! I've added you to the Curators group to give you explicit local permission to delete inappropriate content, if you wish. If you're more comfortable tagging with {{Delete}}, that's fine, too. Again, we appreciate your efforts. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:16, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the extra tools. I will probably delete the cross-wiki vandalism and spam and leave the rest to you. -- Tegel (discusscontribs) 15:42, 13 October 2018 (UTC)