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Probationary custodianship[edit source]

Leutha - what are your thoughts about your probationary period? My sense is that there is not so much custodial activity for the community to make a consensus about - Special:Contributions/Leutha - at least, I feel like I would need some more convincing to nominate you for full custodian. There is nothing bad, for me it's just not much engagement with learning to use custodial tools and custodian matters. Interested in your thoughts. PS Maybe bring back the earlier talk thread about probationary custodianshp out of the archive, so we have all related discussion together? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 12:34, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for this. I generally agree with you. I was somewhat perplexed by the removal from the list by Draicone on 24th September from Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship. I have noticed that sometimes if you question something you get drawn into a long and inconsequential argument, which is not want I when I engage with wikiversity. I am saddened by the fact that Outreach wiki has a distinct Education programme which cannot/does not work here. This is actually a matter which ways on my mind far more than dealing with my probationary period. I was active on wikieducator, but moved my focus here because I am active on wikipedia and attend the wikimedia London meet ups. (I do feel such meat-ups are an important supplement to the abstraction of on-line interaction.) The fact is that no-one has a good word to say about wikiversity there. I would be interested in your comments.Leutha 01:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
Leutha, about GEP: shocked me also - you must also know that Frank S. was even once/right at begin in German Wikiversity administration (he gave me tools there) - so I had some (negative?) thoughts as well
Another person told me a little background story, though I don't have full story yet
Frank said me to talk about WV in next meeting - let's see if that happens ;-) ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat + 01:35, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

File:How to Effective EU Simulations.pdf[edit source]

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Crochet.david 13:16, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Reply to your note[edit source]

Hello! I didn't know if you'd still be watching my talk page so I thought I'd go ahead and reply here. I am definitely interested in taking on a role at Wikimania. I had signed up as a concierge simply because I hadn't seen any other more specific places where I would be of use. Although, I might be concerned that being new to Wikiversity, I might not be able to represent its interests fully on my own. Either way, I would definitely be interested in discussing that further with you. Are you involved with the Wikimania planning team?

On a more general note, Saylor is working right now to explore the ways that we can share our existing materials and the work we've done so as to make more information available through additional channels. Wikiversity seemed like an obvious starting point, although we're also exploring the option of simply adding massive amounts of citations to Wikipedia articles wherever they're needed and we have corresponding materials. I've started drafting a learning project for one of our courses, Introduction to Statistics, so hopefully I'll be ready to get those pages live, pending some internal conversations about format/layout/etc. Also, I might ask you here if it would be appropriate for those projects, "courses" in our parlance, that are adapted from our materials to point towards our site and things like our final exams (which offer some measure of certification for completion of full courses)? Of course, my plan was to just Be Bold and see what happened, but since we were conversing I figured I'd ask for the opinion of an experienced community member. MyNameWasTaken 18:36, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikiversity template on Wikipedia[edit source]

Following your suggestion in the pub, w:Template:Uw-wikiversity! A nice template telling people politely that their OR edits may be more suitable at Wikiversity. Right, time for bed. Tom Morris 22:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

OTRS[edit source]

about Wikiversity:Colloquium/archives/January_2012#Open-source_Ticket_Request_System: "I would hop the WV community will support me in this" <- I'm not sure, but was there something which prompted for this? What would you need (more)? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat + 17:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Re: Hi[edit source]

Hey, good to hear from you here (I also got your email reply!). Well, thanks to afternoon language classes in school and BBC series over cable, we can use English ;) So, about finding some space, what do you think, should we use the proposal's discussion page, or should we start a new page over here at en.wikiversity? I'm fine with both. I'm also usually on IRC as "solstag", in case you use to hang around there, or as "" on the xmpp/gtalk network. --Solstag (talk) 09:50, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikimania[edit source]

Hey, after all you did not come to wikimania, did you? Cheers, --Solstag (talk) 22:32, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

History course[edit source]

Hi Leutha, thanks for your prompt reply regarding the medieval history course and your suggestion. I'm afraid the British Empire course wouldn't really cover the area I'm interested in but thanks for your suggestion. Jimlife (talk) 07:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Metrics[edit source]

How do I use this? and what is it for? Template:Metrics 2012-13 Planotse (talk) 20:57, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Custodian mentorship[edit source]

Please see Project:Candidates for Custodianship/Jasper Deng.--Jasper Deng (talk|meta) 18:08, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi from me too[edit source]

Good to meet you at the conference too. Thanks for the tips. I have now discovered Portals and learned how to use them. Droflet (talk) 19:58, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia training[edit source]

Thanks for pointing out the wikipedia training event next month. I'll be too busy to go to that but I'd be interested in learning of any future wikiversity-specific events. I'm still trying to find ways of getting info about the Parkinson's Science wikiversity project to individuals who might be interested in helping develop it. Any more ideas? Droflet (talk) 09:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

There's a couple of Wikipedia projects WikiProject Medicine and Wikipedia:WikiProject Health and fitness where you could mention it? Leutha (talk) 22:19, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

hi[edit source]

Richard is late Kateryna (talk) 14:38, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

hey fabian[edit source]

It's James here! I changed my username James Moulding (talk) 23:08, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Zero[edit source]

Hi Leutha

I'm writing something about Wikipedia Zero, it's unique reach and how potentially it may be some people's only source of online information. I've been thinking about how we could give people access to other Wikimedia projects information through Wikipedia Zero. I've been looking at using Wikipedia Books as it seems you may be able get information from other Wikimedia projects through it, in effect Wikipedia will go and fetch the information for you and compile it into a book and you never leave Wikipedia. I've had a go and it seems to be I'm missing something or it's broken, the book compiles but it's empty, this also doesn't work linking between different languages on Wikipedia either. Do you know anything about Wikibooks or know anyone who does? I'm going to leave some questions on their main page.

If it is doable I'd really love to get it working.


Mrjohncummings (talk) 16:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks vey much for your reply, I was at eduwiki and that's how I knew a little bit about it. Weirdly there are two projects with similar names, Wikibooks and Wikipedia Books, Wikipedia Books is a service within that you can create lists of articles and it will compile them into a book, I created a couple for Gibraltar like this. Thanks for pointing me towards Phil, I'll send him a message, it would be really nice to get this to work.
Mrjohncummings (talk) 16:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey Fabian 2[edit source]

I've messaged you on facebook too, the Left Society is putting together an evening of gaming at Westminster University on Tuesday 12th Feb, Richard and Russell will be joining us, would you like to come too, is that date okay for you? probably around 6-6.30 start, alcohol and food provided! James Moulding (talk) 23:20, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia UK VLE[edit source]

Leutha, got your message and took a look. I find the idea of a Wikimedia-supported VLE very interesting. There certainly should be a way to make it work, but it will likely take some experimentation to determine the best approach. Open courses may work. Open synchronous courses tend to be more successful but have greater overhead. For something like an introduction, I suspect there would be enough interest that you could start a new course each week if you have enough trainers to lead them.

I have a couple of concerns, however. My first impression is that the current organization is more rule-based than necessary for leading volunteers. I've worked in volunteer environments for more than 25 years, and I've found that you need to help volunteers focus on what they are doing to help the community first, and then specify the minimum requirements and quality standards to ensure everyone is on a similar page. Perhaps there's more encouragement once they get to the TtT sessions, but it's not clear from the written materials.

Second, there seems to be a lot of reinventing the wheel going on here. I can't tell for sure, as I can only access the Wikis. The Moodle courses themselves require user authentication, so I would need a login to go further. But on the Wikis there are many placeholders for things that should already have content available elsewhere. Is it better to redevelop this content or to improve the content that is already available? For my Wikiversity courses and lessons, I'm opting for using and improving the existing content (Wikipedia articles), and then providing an organizing structure to help learners know how to put those resources together logically and then apply the concepts through relevant activities.

I'd be happy to provide additional input if there's something specific you are looking for and want to point me in the right direction. I have an email account linked to my Wikiversity account, so you can contact me directly that way if you'd like. I'm also not too hard to find publicly on the Internet if you're looking.  :-)

-- Dave Braunschweig (talk) 00:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello[edit source]

Dear Leutha

Hello,Receiving your message doubled my enthusiasm.I am Hamid Reza Hanafi from Iran and teach computer science in high school.I am very interested to create e-learning course and in putting computer content on the internet.I am not a native English speaker then my big concern is to write in English.I hope to word very well with you and Other friends.Regards Hr.hanafi (discusscontribs) 15:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks[edit source]

Hello,Mr Leutha.Thank you for help me in editing Spreadsheets. Hr.hanafi (discusscontribs) 14:46, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Problem on game summary page[edit source]

I was trying to edit the template after making a page for the summary of me and Kateryna's game but I have edited it but the links do not..follow? As the title of our page is not, well, I can't work out a way to edit the titles to match the page, could you help me? James Moulding (talk) March 6th 20:59

Chicago Chicago![edit source]

I think this page is more suitable for Wikipedia, but I am not putting a deletion request on the page ---Dong! by Draubb

As this includes OR it would not on acceptable on WP. If you find sufficient secondary sources to support a Wp entry, it would be great to see it. Leutha (discusscontribs) 12:31, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

I am very sorry Leutha (I am in school) for wasting your time, you can clearly see my judgement is wrong because back in those times, I did not know the Signature and Timestamp Icon/Tool! --Aaqib talk 12:19, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Phone testing[edit source]

Hi there! I noticed you have been testing pages on Android phones - are there any other tests being carried out on other phones? Can you now edit pages using the Mobile version of Wikiversity? I have a Blackberry and it will not allow editing of mobile versions. Cheers Khairdean (discusscontribs) 07:06, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Query about template[edit source]

Hi Leutha! I'm trying to understand why there is a template at the top of Economic Classroom Experiments which mentions University of Westminster, University of Surrey and C-SAP. I understand why the ASGELE project lists those supporters, but how are they relevant to Exeter's Economics classroom experiments? Shouldn't we be crediting the University of Exeter and the Fund for the Development of Teaching and Learning for the classroom experiments resource, rather than Westminster, Surrey and C-SAP? Cheers, MartinPoulter (discusscontribs) 15:37, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Since the resource is linked from Wikiversity's main page, I've been bold and taken the template off for now. Maybe there's a more suitable template that can be added? MartinPoulter (discusscontribs) 11:12, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Same concern applies to the templates on Economic_Classroom_Experiments/The_Twenty-Pound_Auction, Economic Classroom Experiments/The Wallet Game, Economic Classroom Experiments/Private Value Auctions, and Economic Classroom Experiments/Currency Attack. Cheers, MartinPoulter (discusscontribs) 11:17, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi Martin, have you looked at the rewording of the template? I have also started looking at the impact of the template in guiding more people to the resource. I think the key thing is how the template helps people find relevant materials. I feel that the revised description on the template suitably describes the relationship? Leutha (discusscontribs) 12:25, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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Module: Sandbox[edit source]

Learning opportunity here. I just happened to notice you had modified Module:Sandbox and saw that you're getting an error on the addition function. Here's the explanation for that. If you don't have local to declare the variable, Lua assumes it is a global variable by that name. Global in this case means it applies to the entire module rather than just your addition function. But because there is no variable with that name declared at the global level, it has no value (nil). You can't add 1 to nothing, so you get an error. The best fix is to add local variable = 1 to your function. The other option would be to add local variable = 1 above both functions so it appears at the module level. Hope this helps. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:36, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Dave. I was just mucking about really to see what happened if I did things a little "wrong". Anyway, I'll produce some feedback. Leutha (discusscontribs) 02:40, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Probationary custodianship[edit source]

I saw your name today and thought, is Leutha a custodian? I had an idea that you were, probably because I've edited the Staff page many times, but I've studied the history of custodianship here and didn't remember seeing a permanent vote and there are no open custodianship pages (other than mine). So I checked history and found it. You are a probationary custodian. The candidacy page should never have been removed; that removal caused it to fall through the cracks. --Are you still interested in being a candidate? Jtneill indicated in 2011 he was not prepared to nominate you for full custodianship, you were noncommittal, and it was just dropped.[1] Abd (discusscontribs) 00:55, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

discussion of consilidation of Art practices resources[edit source]

You asked for a discussion of this, and I've explained what I was doing at Talk:Art practices. I will wait a decent time for going ahead. We need to wait for some page deletions anyway, since content was copied by the user instead of the pages being moved (and the user was not the only editor). --Abd (discusscontribs) 02:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Colonial India[edit source]

I'd like to see the history of this page, which you deleted. Unless I find something worth saving, which is unlikely, I'll promptly retag it for speedy deletion, or you could put Template:Proposed deletion on it to make sure. Please undelete. Thanks. --Abd (discusscontribs) 20:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)


You were the deleting custodian and in looking at the resource and its history from what I saw you deleted by the "book". If you do not want me to undelete, or you would like to do this yourself, I will refrain. I also saw nothing of a personal nature that would cause anyone harm, so what would you like to do? I read your comments after I posted my willingness to undelete. This request has generated too much heat for what appears to be an ordinary deletion and an ordinary undeletion request. Let me know. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 21:54, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for getting in touch. I see no sense in undeleting the page, but really have no strong feelings either way. I think its is very unlikely that anything will be made of the resource, anymore than the Template:Undelete appears to be going anywhere. I do not think these requests are well intentioned, for the reasons I mentioned. In this I am informed by this: "To avoid what led to the block I have a clear intention: not to become involved in Wikiversity governance and general maintenance. It was not welcome, even where I was enforcing long-established policy. I will work only on educational resources of interest to me and value to users." It was on this basis that Abd was unblocked, however he seems to have moved away from this position and his actions are leading to a series of controversies. I feel that this is the bigger problem, and I have every confidence in you to make a suitable decision and deal with what consequences then arise. Leutha (discusscontribs) 22:58, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. While I'm not certain what else is going on, I have mentioned to the requester that very few custodians or the community are or perhaps want to be involved in the decisions regarding the Category:Proposed_deletions. The requester has been looking at this and making suggestions including wider community involvement somehow. I have been deleting resources as the due date passes on the prods but there is a concern that regular users or new users may not become informed before the deletions occur and may be interested in developing these but lose that opportunity. With respect to the block or unblock situation I do not recall the circumstances so am willing to take part of the responsibility for discussing these matters with Abd. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 23:19, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

File Information[edit source]

Check {{Information}} for the following files. It wasn't clear whether the original designer was the author and you uploaded for them, or if you were the author based on their original design.

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 21:34, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

They are all lablelled with their respective authors and licenses, except Austerity Rule Sheet and Blue Tricolour PSAG Cards. I shall see about sorting that out. Leutha (discusscontribs) 19:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Topic:Encyclopedism[edit source]

Hi Leutha!

Your resource Topic:Encyclopedism has been prodded for deletion. Your last contribution was in November 2015 so it seems to me now is way too soon to consider this resource for deletion. What would you like me to do? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 17:06, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I've removed the prod. Leutha (discusscontribs) 19:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

User:Harrtpotter/colours[edit source]

Can we delete User:Harrtpotter/colours? It is unused, and violates Special:LintErrors/deletable-table-tag. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 04:39, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

User:Leutha/useful stuff has the same problem. This is a high priority error. We need to remove the table nesting. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 04:43, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Ok delete User:Harrtpotter/colours. I have altered User:Leutha/useful stuff, is this OK now. Leutha (discusscontribs) 16:32, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

We can't nest tables anymore. Think of it this way. Under HTML5, tables are only for data, never for layout. Data might be side by side, but there's no reason to nest it. It would just be different cells. The way around this problem is with div tags. Columns of information probably should be created using styled unordered lists. But the change I made gets it off the lint report, so it's good now. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:18, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Dave. Leutha (discusscontribs) 15:54, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Custodianship[edit source]

As noted above, you were never formally approved by the community as a Custodian. According to WMF policy now, anyone with custodian rights must be approved by the community.

I checked the logs, and you've never used any explicit custodian rights. I have a proposal for you that I think would both meet your needs and resolve this outstanding situation with very little effort. I would be happy to add you as a Wikiversity:Curator. This would allow you to retain all of the content management rights you have now (Delete, etc.). To remove the Custodianship rights, you just need to go to meta:Steward requests/Permissions#Removal of access and request that a steward remove your Custodian flag.

The alternative would be either for you to formally request a vote on your custodianship, or for the current staff and community to formally vote on removing you as custodian, having never been officially approved and without prejudice.

Please let me know how you would like to proceed. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:27, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Komuneco/Page3[edit source]

What were you trying to do here? There is no content here? ShakespeareFan00 (discusscontribs)