User talk:Jtneill/Archive/2014

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Mentorship[edit source]

Thanks for your offer for mentorship. What happens now? Sidelight12 Talk 02:09, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

If you can wait until I become a bureaucrat, which I hope will be quite soon, then my first act as bureaucrat will be to make you a custodian. Then you enter a probationary period.--Collingwood (talk) 12:20, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
Sidelight has been a probationary custodian for enough time to have a clue about his suitability. He's not suitable, not without more active mentorship and guidance. I'll discuss in detail if needed, this note is prompted by his effective threat to block me for doing what I never did and would not do. Too often, he doesn't understand what is going on, yet he may be willing to block. I'll provide links if you need them. (I'm not asking for removal of custodian rights. I have not assessed his overall value as a custodian.) —Abd (discusscontribs) 15:33, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
No, I didn't threaten to block you over this. You have been offense, and crossed the line before. Don't offend people, then start wondering. So, I understand why glimmerguard would get irritated. You are not a custodian, and you try to dictate as if you are a custodian, then tell others not to use even their regular user privileges. If anyone is not capable of being a custodian, its someone who has been removed from it many times over. This is not up to abd. - Sidelight12 Talk 15:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I've requested that a mentor guide the mentee. The comment above shows the problem. I have not "tried to dictate" as if I were a custodian, and it appears that Sidelight thinks that dictating is what custodians do. I have acted as any ordinary user may act. "Effective threat" refers to a statement, taken in context, that shows that blocks are under consideration, he is "offended." When the custodian then tells the user what to do, that's a threat. Sidelight did then tell me what to do (or, specifically, what not to do. What he told me was proper, the only problem was that I wasn't doing it. At all.) I've seen enough, myself. James, if you need links, I'll provide them.
Obviously, if it is my behavior that is a problem, and by raising this here, I'm inviting correction. However, Wikiversity is famous for being a colossal mess, and I've been acting to create order without becoming repressive. That will occasionally ruffle some feathers, but it's been working, and others are now helping. —Abd (discusscontribs) 16:14, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I don't dictate, in fact, I'm very lenient. That is what you try to do. I had no intent on taking action recently, just telling you not to irritate glimmerjack. I'm not the problem. Stop distorting things. You're out of line, but keep trying. - Sidelight12 Talk 16:22, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Files Missing License Information[edit source]

I've cleaned up all of the files that were missing license information. The only ones left are in the Motivation and Emotion books. The list is at Wikiversity:Resources with Files Pending Deletion. Do you want these deleted, or kept and tagged as fair use? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:40, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Welcome Back[edit source]

Welcome back! Could you take a look at Wikiversity:Changing username? Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 23:40, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Also, another welcome back from me, happy to see you here! Also, see Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/Marshallsumter. --~~Goldenburg111 23:46, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back - Sidelight12 Talk 05:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

My involvement in Wikiversity "governance and maintenance"[edit source]

James, you unblocked me possibly in consideration of a promise, I'll repeat it here:

To avoid what led to the block I have a clear intention: not to become involved in Wikiversity governance and general maintenance. It was not welcome, even where I was enforcing long-established policy.
I will work only on educational resources of interest to me and value to users. --Abd (discusscontribs) 19:15, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

That was my intention at the time. However, gradually, I have indeed become involved in what could be called "governance and maintenance." There has been no disruption, and it seems I'm being effective, with the active cooperation and collaboration of the community.

Nevertheless, please let me know if you have any concerns. You may warn me about any behavior, and you always have the right, as an unblocking administrator, to undo your action. You do not need a reason. I will remain grateful in any case, for all that you have done for me and the project.

And I assume you will return to activity soon, so, welcome back! --Abd (discusscontribs) 19:11, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Caregiving and Dementia Topics[edit source]

Hi James - it has been a long time but I have been doing some updating of Allied Health and would like to add another Topic for QLD - Sexualities. Can you help with this please. Thanks Liz -- [[User-- LizMLizM (discusscontribs) 03:44, 3 February 2014 (UTC) James, I have updated the Sexualities and Dementia page. Discussed with Sandra who confirmed it does fit as a project under the BPSD topic as does the new project, Veterans- Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and Dementia.Thanks for your help. Cheers, --LizM (discusscontribs) 05:25, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Probationary custodians[edit source]

James, we have 3 probationary custodians

  • [Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/Ruy Pugliesi|Ruy Pugliesi], 30 October 2011. Currently inactive. Mentor: SB Johnny.
  • [Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/Sidelight12|Sidelight12], 4 September 2013, Mentor: Jtneill.
  • [Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/Dave Braunschweig], 4 September 2013, Mentor: Jtneill.

These are all far beyond the normal probationary period. Will you ping SB_Johnny about Ruy? Are you ready to make a recommendation for your users?

We also have another candidate for probationary custodian, one who, once upon a time, would routinely have found a mentor. If we have another active permanent custodian, he could find a mentor, I suspect.

Thanks. --Abd (discusscontribs) 01:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I forgot that I had already placed this request, and wrote another with more detail.... --Abd (discusscontribs) 18:57, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Username change[edit source]

Hi Jtneill, could you please help me with my request at Wikiversity:Changing username/Usurpations? Thanks. Scott Martin (discusscontribs) 10:46, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

I have clerked the request and recommend usurpation, reasons and links given there. --Abd (discusscontribs) 16:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
  • There is a possible fork that should be fixed. There is
  • The second page was intended as a page of instructions. Scott Martin used it for the request. I moved his request to the Changing username page. Those instructions need some care and the Changing username page needs clerking. I'll look at it, definitely the instructions could be made clearer. --Abd (discusscontribs) 19:07, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

GLAM subscription[edit source]

I removed the Colloquium from the distribution list on meta, per the considerations given on talk:Colloquium. Since you are the one who added it, I'm pinging you, no action is needed unless you want to comment. Thanks. --Abd (discusscontribs) 17:09, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Rename request[edit source]

Please see this. Sorry for the late reply. -- Faizan Al-Badri (discusscontribs) 16:05, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

The user supplied the necessary confirmation. --Abd (discusscontribs) 18:53, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
  • There are a number of pending requests. I have reviewed all of them to find what may be needed. All but one are ready, AFAIK (BCG999 → RandomDSdevel still needs a confirmation), I have emailed the user. --Abd (discusscontribs) 18:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
    • Thanks for chasing me up and making them so easy to check/do. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 23:33, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
And thank you for all your work.
Some requests you left in place, shifting from rename to usurpation, could possibly have been done. The problem is automatic account creation. A user is changing their username globally. They may have an account elsewhere. As soon as this is an SUL account, it can automatically create a local account. That happened with Jakec, more than three weeks after King jakob c 2 made the rename request. If the old account has no edits, and as long as it has been verified that the changing user is the SUL user, as was done, there is no need for a notice to the local SUL talk page, etc.
I had been under the impression that the local accounts were not automatically created until the user looks at the wiki while logged in elsewhere. From the Global Account Manager for Jakec, that's unlikely, because 19 wikis have the same automatic account creation time. It doesn't happen globally, because other wikis have later SUL attachment times. Frankly, I don't understand it. --Abd (discusscontribs) 00:34, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

my Wikiversity user name[edit source]

Hi James,

I ran across an item on that I felt needed an update and, never having used wikiversity before, decided to create wikiversity account. I noticed that some users had simple two character user names, presumably their real-world initials, so I chose my initials "lm" as my user name.

I was quite prepared to be informed that user name "lm" was already taken and to choose some other variant of my initials or some part of my full name.

What I was not prepared for was to be informed that the user name "lm" was rejected because it was "too similar" to another user name ("l m"). This troubles me for two reasons:

1) The only reason I can imagine for a rejecting a new user name for being "too similar" to an existing user name would be the suspicion that the newly registered user might want to masquerade as the existing user. If this is indeed the reasoning, then it seems to be a violation of the "assumption of good faith" and as such leans toward "unciviliity"

2) I'm no expert at navigating the wikiversity web site, but I have been unable to find any record of a user named "l m" or any variation of same that I could easily imagine, on the list at

Judging by the size of the user list, I surmise that if such a user doesn't exist now, it never did... so what really was the problem in the first place?

I finally created a user name of "lm_too_similar_wtf", and was offended yet again by having the underscore characters changed to spaces. I'm a computer programmer by profession, so I recognize what a pain it is to allow whitespace characters in identifiers. I also recognize that, in the interest of pleasing one's users, one can jump through some hoops and allow that anyway. But to automatically force a non-whitespace character in an identifier to a whitespace character seems, at best, pointless to me.

Please pardon me for rambling. I suspect you are not the author of the relevant software and are probably not the author of the relevant user policies either.

As you seem to be the only "Bureaucrat" level user who has been active in the last three months (as of 2014/02/15, according to the Support staff directory page), I respectfully ask your assistance in having my user name changed from "lm_too_similar_wtf" to just "lm" (not to include the quotation marks).

Thanks for listening.


--Lm too similar wtf (discusscontribs) 18:40, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Rename requests[edit source]

There are five open renaming requests on Wikiversity:Changing username, with my recommendation (all are good, ready to go). The oldest is from December, 2013.

There were issues in several requests with "existing account": CentralAuth can automatically create local accounts, sometimes with no local action at all. If a local account is created automatically for an SUL account, and we know the user requesting rename is that account, from verification elsewhere or here, it should not be necessary to go through the normal usurpation notification process. Juandev did edit as the target account name, but this simply creates unmergeable edits, we should not require that. This is not the same as a usurpation of an old account.

If I make any errors there, please let me know. --Abd (discusscontribs) 15:23, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Probationary custodian read to go for permanent?[edit source]

James, you have, on his talk page, implied approval the probationary work of User:Dave Braunschweig as ready to go for permanent.[1] It would loosen the custodianship situation if can proceed expeditiously. If you don't have time to create the discussion, but you consent here, explicitly, recommending permanent custodianship as his mentor, I will clerk that for you to start the comment period, citing your approval here. Okay? --Abd (discusscontribs) 15:30, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikiversity:Changing username[edit source]

Hi Jtneill, I saw that you were a crat on wikiversity, and was wondering if, when you have a moment, you could have a look at my usurpation request for User:ArchiveBot, here. Thanks, FASTILY 09:07, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Usurpation[edit source]


you seem to be the only active crat. Can I ask you to usurp my own name and rename me, please.--Juandev (discusscontribs) 18:36, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Lost Wikinewb[edit source]

Hello, I was referred to you by someone who had answered a question I had in the Colloquium. I used to be a Wiktionary editor, but it has been awhile since my last visit. Anyway, I just wanted to know where to go as far as psychology project information is concerned. I've already visited the Psychology portal, but it looked inactive. More information about me is in my profile. Thanks! --BrienWest (discusscontribs) 20:50, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the expedient reply. Right now I am taking a summer cognitive psychology course, and figured that I would start editing that page for starters. I'm a computer science major that's using Wikiversity to help myself, and others, learn about coding and whatever else interests I may have. Also, have you visited course sites? --BrienWest (discusscontribs) 14:45, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi[edit source]

Please don't hesitate to reformare chanfe pafe names if my approach is not in conformance no offense taken email me also if you wish tjanksK9Alliance2Train (discusscontribs) 20:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

An important message about renaming users[edit source]

Dear Jtneill,

I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Please Add my Subject to the list of topics being covered: Anger Outlets, What Works?[edit source]

Hi James

Could you please add my topic:"Anger Outlets, what really works?" to the list of topics being covered this semester?

Apologies on the late start - I hope to have my head around wikiversity soon!

Kind Regards

Student id:u3091458 - wikiversity login: avalokiteshvara222

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YesY Done -- Jtneill - Talk - c 14:04, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/Dave Braunschweig#Voting for full custodianship[edit source]

As a bureaucrat, please close this discussion. It's been two weeks. Thanks. --Abd (discusscontribs) 15:14, 12 September 2014 (UTC) YesY Done -- Jtneill - Talk - c 13:27, 17 October 2014 (UTC)