User talk:Atcovi/Archive 11

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Currently sick with Fever, Coughing, and Headache[edit]

Hopefully I'll be able to edit here more after my sickness goes down the drain. I hope for a fast recovery and return to school. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 15:44, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Recovered, now I could get to my blog soon. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 01:17, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Old pages, some of which may be yours[edit]

Hi. I think there are some very old page creations of yours in my old (User:Abd/Playspace), used to temporarily (but maybe for years!) hold IP user work that was inappropriate for mainspace. Some of them are very interesting as the creative writing of a very young user. I recommend you keep them. You may move them into your user space if you like. If you don't want it to be known that any of these pages are yours, I am planning on eventually cleaning up that space, so email me with any pages you would prefer to be deleted, I'll include them without mentioning you. To my mind, you are an important part of Wikiversity history, where we learned how to handle very young users, who have special needs, in a very positive way. So I hope for all these pages to be kept, Nothing there, to my knowledge, is harmful. However, your privacy also matters, as you choose. --Abd (discusscontribs) 19:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

User:Abd, is it in the history of the page, or..? And thanks btw, you're a great example of how Wikimedians are suppose to be. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 01:12, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. We lead by example, not by command.
If you go to the playspace page, you will see the contents of the playspace. (I just changed the way this displays). The Volleyball pages you can ignore, of course. Some of the others, above those, are yours, I think. --Abd (discusscontribs) 01:55, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Ah, yes, I see. I'll plan on moving those to my space soon. Thank you for entertaining me with my past self :) --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 10:48, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
I've moved the pages into my userspace. Thanks! --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 15:35, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Excellent. --Abd (discusscontribs) 19:08, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I was just cleaning up, and one of those pages was first edited December 13, 2010, by IP. --Abd (discusscontribs) 19:40, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

About My Learn Arabic Project[edit]


under the new name

Learn Arabic (Language Of Quran)

My project disappeared from google search ! , what's the reason ? people will not be able to reach it!

--Ruaa Elias (discusscontribs) 20:36, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

User:Ruaa GHAREEB Work on the content more, put more files, and maybe get it more known on facebook. You shouldn't be worried tho, we have a lot of people reviewing Wikiversity who most likely will find your project. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 22:18, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Google takes a few days to adjust, sometimes. That's all. My sense is that the page will be moved again. If people are looking for interesting projects on Wikiversity, and look at the list of pages, should the first word in the title be "Learn." Every single Wikiversity page could begin with that! It should be "Arabic" or Qur'an. The latter currently redirects to Islam/Qur'an. Don't worry! Just build the project! If you have incoming links from elsewhere, mention those on the Talk page. That way, if it is moved, it is more likely that the original title will have a redirect on it to the place where it is moved. --Abd (discusscontribs) 19:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Files Missing License Information[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Zeeman's potrait.jpg and proposed deletion of Pieter Zeeman[edit]

There is a better file available on Commons, and the file never had proper license information. The usage of the file in Pieter Zeeman, which you created, has been replaced by the Commons file. Not any sort of problem, Atcovi, but because you uploaded that, you should be notified of the speedy deletion! --Abd (discusscontribs) 17:11, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

...ummm, that article is a biography, much taken from or very similar to the Wikipedia article, I think you may have been practicing writing articles. It was two years ago, after all! I could request speedy deletion, or if the page has value to you, it could be moved to your user space. What do you think? Just to get it done, I will Prod it. You can move it to your user space and remove the prod template. --Abd (discusscontribs) 17:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Abd, I guess it's settled then. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 13:33, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Mathematics Properties[edit]

Welcome back! I noticed your recent work on properties and moved the page to Mathematics Properties. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:57, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! It's great to be back! And thank you for moving it to the proper page. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 13:32, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

IV-ii Complex Page redirect[edit]

Thank you for the quick fix! It's been a while since I started a new page. --MusicOnMyMind (discusscontribs) 15:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

It's fine, we all make mistakes. Keep up the good work MusicOnMyMind! --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 15:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

It's not a project[edit]

Farming Sharks is not a project, it is a lesson of the Aquaculture/Mariculture Learning Project. Please remove it from the project category. (The preceding unsigned comment was added by CoffeeRansacked969 (talkcontribs) )

Alrighty then CoffeeRansacked969. To remove the category, just click "-" next to the category. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 20:37, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Requested deletion for Minecraft category, media, and subpages[edit]

Hi, I've requested deletion for your MineCraft series, as it has no educational objectives or discussion in history, many grammatical errors on the pages, and your media are (is?) filed under the wrong licenses. Just thought I should let you know. --Waffles9761 (discusscontribs) 22:30, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Waffles9761 Alright, thank you. I honestly have no problem being deleted or not, I'll let a custodian deal with this. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 23:28, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

The speedy deletion requests have been changed to proposed deletions. Please feel free to make improvements on these pages if you wish. The associated files were licensed incorrectly and have been tagged as missing license information. You may add correct license information within seven days. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:35, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

No questions at all, thanks! --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 01:31, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I've cleaned up the Minecraft pages a bit: I renamed them to "Minecraft", merged "Animals" into "Mobs", wrote a page on "Servers", and a few other things. --Waffles9761 (discusscontribs) 15:42, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

I added you as a mock student in a mock course[edit]

See Wright_State_University_Lake_Campus/Mock_Course_1010


Would you be interested in becoming the first curator at Wikiversity? I'd be willing to provide mentorship if you are interested. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:29, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I guess it's worth a shot, sure. Thank you. @Dave Braunschweig ----Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 02:07, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
You now have curator rights. Let me know whenever you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:08, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 14:57, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Abd. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 20:51, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Broken Redirects[edit]

Thanks for your cleanup work! If you'd like to clean up some broken redirects, see Special:BrokenRedirects. The delete reason is almost always Orphaned, broken, or unused redirect. Sometimes, rather than deleting, it may be appropriate to redirect to a different resource. The frequency of page views can be used to determine whether a redirect is (relatively) unused. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:50, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

No problem, it's a pleasure. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 02:55, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
I believe I'm done with all the work (expect Guy vandegrift's, I'm going to let him deal with it). ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 03:06, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


Re: user:Guy vandegrift/Wikiversity as a haven for lone wolves I have no objection to your placing my essay into that category. But there is a wonderful irony that cannot be left un-noted. I wrote an essay in my own user space called Wikiversity as a haven for lone wolves. The title was inspired by the novel Stepenwolf by Hess, and the subject is about how Wikiversity could become a place for people who like to write creatively, unfettered by well-intentioned collaborators. I am truly glad that you added the category, but in doing so, my first sentence was disrupted by an edit conflict! That is really, really funny. Funny beginnings are a good omen in my book.

By the way, feel free to edit this essay yourself. I will tell you if I don't want collaborators. This is a collaborative essay about how to facilitate lone-wolf uncollaborative essays.--Guy vandegrift (discusscontribs) 21:16, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

King Saud University[edit]

Hello. Regarding this edit, I added the prod because it didn't seem to be going anywhere after five years, but it was the original edit summary of It's the Biggest and no.1 University in middle east, asia, africa and europe that made me think it might have been intended as an advert. Anyway I'm happy to let it be because there are more pressing needs on Wikiversity. Cheers. :) Green Giant (talk) 21:48, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

IMO if it was advertising it would be linking to it's courses and websites. That's why I reverted your edit. Thank you :-) ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 22:05, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
seems Dave has deleted... IMO it shouldn't, but if that's the case.. then so be it. Thank you! ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 23:16, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
We just deleted 20+ pages like this for a similar reason. See Wikiversity:Colloquium#Colleges_and_Universities. If a school is using Wikiversity, a page introducing the school is fine. If they aren't using Wikiversity, there's no advantage to having a page that provides no educational objectives, generates no interest, and doesn't provide any content beyond what is already available at Wikipedia. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:13, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Wow, new to me.. Thank you. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 01:16, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Importing a page from Wikipedia[edit]

Hi Atcovi, I noticed that you have recently imported pages here. On en.wikipedia at w:Draft:Visual C++ name mangling is a page that some would like to preserve off Wikipedia, as it is original research. Is this suitable for Wikiversity? and if so can you import it here? Graeme Bartlett (discusscontribs) 07:06, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I have discovered the Wikiversity:Import page now and placed a request. Graeme Bartlett (discusscontribs) 07:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, that went very smoothly. Graeme Bartlett (discusscontribs) 22:43, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
No problem! :-) ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 00:08, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for that information. I really appreciate it! I am new to Wiki-anything, really. Have a great day! --Make-out Bandit (discusscontribs) 23:20, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Well, welcome! (Again, lol) You'll fit perfectly in, so do not worry (though, you should read up on Wikiversity:Browse, Wikiversity:Mission, and the Main Page) And good day to you too! ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 23:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

The Crafting Freedom Project[edit]

FYI, The Crafting Freedom Project was moved a couple of times which left the sub pages orphaned. I temporarily moved it back to keep them together until we figure out a better place. I noticed you included this is a biography project and left a redirect there. You asked me about history collaboration - I am interested in projects like this. --mikeu talk 04:01, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Luckily we are learning about some African Americans in the 19th century. I'll be taking a look around. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 13:06, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Moving Pages[edit]

It might be a good idea to discuss moving pages with newcomers before moving them. Some pages are clearly student assignments. Others may be the start of more extensive shared works. Without a conversation, newcomers would likely see these moves as being disruptive to their efforts. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:09, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 15:34, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Userpage protection[edit]

I'm curious as to why your userpage is protected.[1] I see no problem with vandalism in the page history. My userpage has only been vandalized four times since Dec. 2006 and it has never been protected. Is this really needed? --mikeu talk 10:26, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

User requested isn't enough? ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 14:31, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
A request is usually accompanied by a reason. There was no reason given in the protection log of the page. I'm a bit confused about why you think this is needed. Editors rarely touch another person's user page. I've been reviewing all the protected pages and I've removed protection on a number of them including the pages in Category:Quotes which are linked from the Main Page. Despite the high profile, there's been no vandalism in nearly a month. Templates and Main Page subpages are at risk of vandalism and are very high profile, so they are indef protected. But, most pages don't need this. Soon we'll be working on a policy regarding protection and other mediawiki features to add stability to learning resources. Extensions like pending changes are probably more appropriate in the majority of cases. We'll need to file a request to have that installed. It's not a big deal, I'm just trying to understand why people seem to think the wiki will break if we don't protect pages. We currently have the lowest levels of vandalism that I've seen in a decade. I've written an essay about this if you're interested and I welcome comments. --mikeu talk 04:19, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I've seen userpages protected because the administrator wanted the userpage protect, I'm confused as to why there have to be a reason to protect your own userpage. Btw, nice essay; love the image too. I'll read it soon when I get the time. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 12:42, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I welcome comments, discussion, and questions about the essay. Please participate if you are interested.
There are some very good reasons for protecting some user pages. For example, the user pages of wp founder Jimbo Wales are frequent targets of malicious vandalism. We froze Mirwin's page when we learned that he was deceased as it would be disturbing to his friends to see vandalism there.
There are three things that are important to a wiki community. First there are the official policies and guidelines. Second are the "norms" or conventions that we adhere to. (ie. consensus) Third is the "philosophy" by which we act. I'm asking you (and others) to think about that third aspect. Wikipedia was founded on the radical notion of "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit." (emphasis added.) This philosophy has been credited with the explosive growth and success of the site. It is not much of an exaggeration to claim that this has literally changed our world. (See the note about Ebola at [2].) My asking these questions is not really about the protection of a page. This is more of a "pre-mentorship" lesson in the philosophy of How to be a Wikimedia sysop. Sorry, if I wasn't clear about that when I asked the question. I sometimes forget that not everyone here is familiar with ideas such as Learning to learn a wiki way,
The most important aspect of being a sysop (admin, custodian) is not about knowing how to use the tools, it is about knowing when (or when not to.) What happens to us when we get into the "habit" of revert, block, push the protect button every time we see a minor test edit? It becomes a reflexive action to push the button without thinking about it, and then moving on. After a number of years we wind up with ~15,000 ip addresses indef blocked and numerous pages that were protected without there really being a great need for it. I just downgraded the protection on {{welcome}} to allow autoconfirmed edits because we assume that our contributors will make productive edits by default. That is the philosophy of our wiki way of doing things.
When I consider using page protection I ask myself questions like:
  • Is it really that much of a hassle to push Undo or Rollback once every 3 years?
  • Will I remember to remove the protection after it is no longer needed?
  • Will the wiki break if I don't protect the page?
  • Will this contribute to creating a site where anons are discouraged from participating?
So, I'd like to know what you (and others) think about when you push the page protect button.
BTW, I was reminded of Mabuabsdd, Draubb, and friends recently at User_talk:Mu301#Unsourced. There I planted a seed of understanding that might just bear fruit one day...
I'm genuinely interested in hearing your thoughts about this. --mikeu talk 15:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

About "Topic:Sri Lankan history"[edit]

Oups ! I've been a little too fast... Sorry ! --Thierry613 (discusscontribs) 21:05, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

No worries. Make sure to thoroughly review the pages you are "PROD-ing". Thanks for the help! ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 21:07, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome. For sure I review but it has to be the whole community's decision ; I'm too "new" on the english wikiversity to be able to work alone on such a touchy process. --Thierry613 (discusscontribs) 22:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

GPL Files[edit]

File:540phosyn.GIF is indicated as licensed under GPL. GPL is a software license. It doesn't apply to images. I presume you meant GFDL. You might consider changing it to a CC-BY-SA-3.0 license instead. GFDL requires that the license be attached to the image, making it impractical for printed use. In any case, please update the license from GPL to an appropriate image license. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 19:37, 18 March 2016 (UTC)


Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:15, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

File:Nutmegging of Puyol.jpg[edit]

File:Nutmegging of Puyol.jpg appears to be copyrighted content. Please review and provide copyright and licensing information, or delete. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:21, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

BSD License[edit]

BSD is a software license. It doesn't apply to images unless they are screenshots of BSD-licensed software. The following files need license information:

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:00, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


I noticed you tagged many uploaded files with the Template:LGPL license. This license is for software (code) and does not apply to images unless they come from software (icons / screenshots, etc.) that is under an LGPL license. I've retagged these files with {{no license}}. Please review Category:Files with no machine-readable license and add appropriate licenses to the files you have uploaded. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:57, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 23:03, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Files Missing Information[edit]

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Category Proposed Deletions[edit]

Currently your user page is in the Category:Proposed deletions. Do you want it there or is this listing a mistake? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 23:28, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Corrected. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 04:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)


See regarding Sploder. If the files you uploaded are levels you created, you must indicate this in the file summaries. If you did not create these levels, the files can't be hosted here. An LGPL license applies to code. Since it doesn't apply to this code, it can't be applied to the user interface. If these are your levels, you should consider using the standard CC-BY-SA license, or a public domain license. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Haha, thanks. It's been a while since I've been here, and I've been dozing on and off on gaming websites. Thanks for the refresher. ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 19:15, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
See Category:Files with no machine-readable source. All uploaded files must have source information added to remain at Wikiversity. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:27, 25 June 2016 (UTC)