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Pages/Categories/Templates you are creating[edit source]

1sfoerster responded interspersed, original Abd comments are now italicised. Original unindented Abd comments stamped 14:48, 19 August 2011. --Abd 19:53, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I see you are starting to work on what looks like course materials for use at Howard Community College. You are, of course, most welcome to do this. However, may I ask you to think a bit about resource, category, and template names that you wish to use as they might fit into an overall structure being used by many schools. For example, instead of Personal Weekly Summary Template (which is not a "template"), if this is something that would be of specific use in your course, you might consider placing this as a resource subpage under Howard Community College, i.e, Howard Community College/Personal weekly summary. Subpages are allowed in mainspace. But even more, this is probably more connected with a specific department at HCC. So it might be Howard Community College/Engineering/Personal weekly summary.

I will change template to form .. 1sfoerster 17:45, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Small detail. Wikiversity standard form for page names, except for proper nouns, is sentence case, as I showed in the "might be" example. --Abd 19:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Alternatively, you may build resources as general-use resources, but then use subpages for student projects; the actual student project pages might be in user space, for each student, and there can be a specific course section page, i.e, ResourceName/Classes/SpecificClass2011/StudentProjects, which would have links to all the student pages for that particular course.

You have described what I was attempting to build ... a user space, project space, course space and space for something like instructables that everyone can contribute to.
Am I using categories too much? Should I be using pages? I can see how to do this with pages, but categories are more flexible.1sfoerster 17:45, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Probably. Categories can be used for lots of things, but if a Category name is general, but is being used specifically, then confusion can be created. Better, where you are going to use specific categories (i.e, to show a particular school's resources, or to show a particular section or course, to make the name specific. --Abd 19:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If we know who the teacher is, Wikiversity custodians can give special administrative assistance as needed. You can put this information on your user page. I highly recommend that you have all active students register as Wikiversity users. While anonymous editing is certainly allowed, anonymous editors do not get user space, and there is little way to communicate with them if there is a problem. I highly recommend that the teacher, especially, have email enabled (as you do); it's good for students, too.

I am the teacher. 1sfoerster 17:45, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'll email you. --Abd 19:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am planning on all the students creating Wikiversity accounts 1sfoerster 17:56, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It occurs to me that all this material and student work can be created here under Engineering, though that's kind of a mess.

The Engineering topic doesn't have a clear place for this course. I can not figure out how to get to the Engineering topic from the wikiversity main page without searching. 1sfoerster 17:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's part of the mess. --Abd 19:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
... the school category, the project category, the learning project category and subcategories don't have a clear context .. I need guidance ... thanks for monitoring what I am doing .... keep giving me feedback .. I am going to try using pages more now. If you have clear recommendations ... or want to start moving things around yourself .. go ahead. I will try to figure out what you are doing. 1sfoerster 17:45, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Unfortunately, there may not be clear guidance. Wikiversity never nailed this stuff down, so it's been a bit of "anything goes." And then it's hard to find things and hard to know what to do. I hope we can build this project so that it's more user friendly. --Abd 19:59, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Whatever is done here might be linked from the Wikibooks page that your HCC description links to. Thanks. --Abd 14:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

proposed organizational system[edit source]

The root would be Project_name/School_name/Semester_name/Team_name

Categories can be added later, but the initial goals are to see all projects, and for individual schools to see their teams. The schools are going to want to compare semesters.

Each Project_name page will need to list the participating schools with links to the school name. The School_name page will need to list the semesters. The Semester_name page will need to list the Team_name pages. The Team_name pages will need to list the individual team members pages.

Hopefully the student will create a portfolio category of all their work. The school will added categories to their school name pages so that all the projects associated with the school can be seen. 1sfoerster 18:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Good. So on "Project_name" there would be a linked list of Schools offering the project (or on-line sections without a brick and mortar school). Each of these would then have their own pages and subpages. A clear hierarchy, easy to understand and navigate. And easy to maintain. Categories are useful to create cross-references. Probably not so good as part of the basic course structure. --Abd 20:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ddi you request this deletion?[edit source]

[1]. Did you request this deletion? If so, I'll delete it promptly. It looks like the IP has been used by many different students. Be sure to remind everyone to log in! Group projects can quickly become a mess if there isn't individual responsibility for edits.... Those who watch the wiki for vandalism can't tell if a blanking, for example, is from a participant or from a vandal. --Abd 19:07, 31 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

yes i did 1sfoerster 19:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
YesY Done. --Abd 19:26, 31 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Only 6 students were able to establish accounts ... then students got messages saying max of 6 accounts from one IP address. I guess the school has one public ip address. I told them to establish accounts from home. 1sfoerster 19:36, 31 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Probably a measure to prevent flooding with sockpuppets. Easy to fix. Any of them have an iPhone? Or other smartphone with web access? I never heard of the account limit before. I should check and see how long it lasts.
Meanwhile, this is an example of what I was seeing that caused me to react: Chunk Poppit/Howard Community College/Fall2011/501 manbearpig/Drew Dollas. Not exactly transparent and clear structure. While it's possible for individual students to have subpages in mainspace, in mainspace pages are generally "public." We do allow some level of ownership, but it might be better for individual student pages to be in their own user space. That way anyone monitoring Recent Changes will see an edit in, say, Drew Dollas' user space, from the user Drew Dollas, and won't need to give it a second glance. Drew wants to blank something on his working page in his user space? No problem. But if it's in mainspace, it will give vandalism patrollers some pause.
I apologize, again, for the mess I created with that ill-considered move. Before I fix it, though, I'd like to see us settle on some structure, so I don't move a pile of pages only to move them again. --Abd 22:47, 31 August 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for working with me. A group of students named their team manbearpig after my lecture on creating boring names only they could remember, not names that raise respect flags. I would appreciate you deleting the team manbearpig page and all individual sub pages under it. This would reinforce my message. All the individual and team work appears after howard community college in the page path of a project. This way the students and their teams are clearly identified as to what college they belong to. I am hoping that the root main page becomes the polished summary of all this chaos. I am assuming the chaos after the college's name should be the responsibility of the college. There will be approximately 56 project teams and I don't know how many root projects created this fall2011 semester. I will be creating the root projects. Many of them will be empty, or filled with previous project information I've collected. They are what the students will pick from when they make their preferences. Ultimately, at the end of their projects I will want them to modify the root pages with a useful contribution .. if any. Have you found a better model or alternative in wikiversity? Can you visualize an alternative? I really struggled to come up with this system and admit that it is the first one and only one that I could come up with. By userspace do you mean their personal talk page? 1sfoerster 17:32, 1 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Users have an entire namespace, User. If a user page is intended to be part of a final project, I'd say that it is better than the name doesn't have a username in the name, even if it's assigned to a user. If it's really the personal work of a user, say a record of contributions or assignments, I'd put it in user space. I.e., if I were in your class, User:Abd/1sFoerster/Homework. Those are my ideas.
Sounds good, will build student pages there173.69.172.33 19:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just to take precautions, since a large deletion block might be difficult to undo, please take steps to confirm your identity as the teacher for HCC. Did we already do this? I don't recall for sure. Public email address, verifiable from HCC web site, that I can send an email to, for confirmation? I'll see if I can protect the pages meanwhile, so that students don't waste more time on them.
HCC web site with my email:, email at the college redirects to 19:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I went ahead and deleted, since it was only four pages, really. Plus some redirects that won't ultimately be deleted. If there had been original content on the pages, I'd have moved them to the student's user spaces. But do please act to verify identity. Thanks. --Abd 18:21, 1 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks 19:28, 1 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Howard Community College[edit source]

from the talk page (also deleted):

  • this page was created by ada [Abd]
  • it redirects root chunk poppit to it
  • so there may be a redirect that is also needed
  • I have moved all important pages to the root poppit
  • users will be linked to their user space
  • (unsigned, edit 14:14, 7 September 2011 1sfoerster)

Looking at this, I'm a bit concerned. I'd have preferred to just undo the moves I made, and the only reason I was waiting on that was to make sure we had agreement on what was to be done ultimately. I did delete the Howard Community College page and the Talk page. You did not actually "move" pages to the root Poppit. You copied them, it seems. That loses any page history. Those pages may have editors other than you. But I don't think anyone will complain.

This is what you have requested I delete: HCC subpages. This is what you created: Poppit & subpages

I'm starting to delete pages which are just forms, no new information. --Abd 15:21, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • All the pages have been deleted. One page had substantial edits to the form that had been used, that's been moved to User:DivaEngineer/501 trees/DivaEngineer. You might want to look at the users changes, you can use History to compare revisions.
  • You state that users will be linked to their user space, but what you have under Poppit is links to subpages for users, not in user space and, in fact, pointing to the old HCC space, the deleted pages. I will fix this so that each of these links points to a user page called "Poppit 501" in their user space.
  • For forms to be placed on the user page, you can use {{subst:pagename}}. This markup will cause the contents of "pagename" to be copied to the page. It's much faster and more reliable than copy and paste from one page to another. You may also which to consider transclusions. You could have a weekly announcement that changes, and if that is transcluded onto your student's pages, they just have to look at their own page to see the announcement. --Abd 16:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Ugh. In the middle of doing this, some users started creating "enes100/poppit" files in their user spaces. I'm guessing that's what you asked them to do. I'll go back and fix the other links to match so that everyone is the same. --Abd 16:35, 7 September 2011 (UTC) Fixed.Reply[reply]
  • Some users have used the pipe, i.e., I can be any name I want to display user names or handles instead of the actual user name. That's fine, as long as it isn't misleading. It can sometimes be confusing, but people do it. I'm a little wary of one user changing how another user's name displays, though.[] But that seems harmless here. I didn't pipe the names I placed. --Abd 16:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • I am aware of the pipes. As long as they link to a userid that I can track and grade, I am ok. If they choose names that are out of line with naming conventions let me know. 1sfoerster 20:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thanks for all your work, I hope I haven't made too big a mess. I will try to figure out how to place forms, and what a transclusion is. I am learning canvas to communicate with students ... it is an open source learning management system ... which supposedly has a wiki in it, but it uses html markup and doesn't notify me of page changes and it is not linked to wiki space. In my mind there are three levels of project documentation in wikiversity, USER, COLLEGE and WORLD. The WORLD is the root. COLLEGE documentation is a subpage of WORLD. Some students will not be filling out the world documentation until the end of the project. Does this make sense? 1sfoerster 17:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes. However, they might work on a team page. Basically, individual work at this point, for class work, can be and probably should be in the user's personal space. The team, though, may have a common page which is a subpage of a class subpage in what you call the WORLD space. We don't really have a "College" space, but use subpages. There's a lot of stuff on Wikiversity that is inconsistent, though. That's why there are no clear guidelines, and without clear guidelines, there will continue to be chaos. The purpose of the guidelines would not be to control or restrict people, but to suggest easy and effective ways of doing things, so that we don't keep reinventing the wheel. But square wheels, though easy to machine, don't work so well.
I'm not thrilled with Poppit as a top level name for your resource. But it's certainly okay for now. The entire Poppit hierarchy can be moved with a single action, that's why subpage references should be used within it. But the user pages are really not subpages, they are absolute references to users.
I agree that there isn't a "College" space. This is why I am trying to do colleges through subpages of the project "root" or "world." To keep my sanity and hold my students accountable I am using categories also. 1sfoerster 20:16, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Substitution can be used to create those individual user pages, I give an example below. Transclusion is useful where the content may be dynamic, changing. However, changes to a transcluded page will not trigger a user watchlist, unless they are watching the transcluded page. So if you do create an Announcements page, you should ask your students to Watch it. The announcements page can also be transcluded to the individual student pages, so they will have two ways to see the announcements: from checking their own class page, and from seeing a change to the Announcements page on their watchlist. They should also be Watching their group page(s).
To me, it looks like it's coming together. I reverted changes by Chaagii 0817 to General Engineering Projects/Team Done Form‎. I'll look to see what Chaagii was trying to do and see if I can assist. --Abd 17:51, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User of template subst:[edit source]

see [2]. That was created using only {{subst:User:1sfoerster/enes100/poppit}} on a blanked page. --Abd 16:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

instructions not clear[edit source]


  • Is BobFK part of group "superior"?
  • The user has indeed followed the instruction on the page, has linked to his "personal page." I did supply such links for other users, but BobFK was added later today. He does have a link to his Poppit classwork page on his user page. It's a bit bizarre, but it works. However, he hasn't copied the form to the page, he just created the page User:BobFK/enes100/poppit.
  • My observation about classes involving many new users. w:Murphy's Law, if it can be done wrong, every possible way of doing it wrong will be explored. I've been learning to make instructions excruciatingly explicit, or it "will" be done wrong. --Abd 18:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • I added myself to the team superior to show students how to add themselves to a team. Unfortunately this team is not functioning. I can not map BobFK to any user. I will request deletion Monday afternoon next week if it is not cleaned up. Again, thanks for your work and advice. 1sfoerster 19:09, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:BobFK. Do you mean you cannot map him to a student in your class? Are outside students allowed? He actually tried to create his user subpage, you can see the efforts in the history of the "superior" page, this would have worked. He made several false starts. The page still is there, with the right name, he just hasn't added the form text. The link that stands in the superior group takes you to his user page, where he has two links, the second of which goes to the working page for the course.
As this course is a specific class, with working groups who meet face-to-face, presumably, the issue of non-HCC students should be made explicit. Another page under Poppit could be created to handle non-HCC students who want to kibbitz or whatever. I'm okay with class subpages being routinely restricted. But we need to know. --Abd 19:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are invited to register for the Wikiversity Assembly[edit source]

  • The Wikiversity:Assembly has been established as a technique for developing reports on topics of import for Wikiversity administration. The Assembly is not a decision-making body, per se. Rather, it is designed to create or discover or estimate consensus, through focused, facilitated, thorough deliberation. Assembly reports may be referenced in regular Wikiversity discussions, but will not directly control outcomes. Where full consensus is not found, minority reports may be issued.
  • I invite you to register for the Wikiversity:Assembly by adding your user name to the Wikiversity:Delegable proxy/Table.
  • Registering for the Assembly creates no specific obligation, but does consent to direct communication as the Assembly may determine is appropriate. You may opt out of such direct communication by adding "no messages" to the Table when you register, in the user comment field, but it is unlikely that the default (communication allowed) will create burdensome traffic for you.

You are invited to name a proxy[edit source]

  • When you register for the Assembly, you may optionally designate a "proxy."
  • I suggest that you nominate, as a proxy, the user whom you most trust to participate positively in a Wikiversity discussion if you are unable to participate yourself. The proxy will not be voting for you in any process. Rather, the proxy will be considered to loosely represent you, as a means of estimating probable large-scale consensus based on small-scale participation, in the event that you do not personally participate.
  • If you name a proxy, you will be consenting to direct communication with you by that proxy. If a named proxy accepts the proxy, you become, as long as you maintain the nomination (you may change it at any time), the "client" of the proxy, and by accepting, a proxy has consented to direct communication from the client.

Comments[edit source]

Please consider registering for the Assembly. This doesn't mean a lot of work, unless you choose to participate heavily. Registering, though, sets up the possibility of participation, directly or indirectly through the method shown. Thanks. --Abd 19:24, 11 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for your support[edit source]

If it was your intention to register a support for permanent custodianship, it's common to put a "support" template at the beginning, after the asterisk. That's
The reverse is
I did move your comment to the Voting section; if that was incorrect, let me know or just move it to Comments. If you just want to make a comment, either use the Comment section, or use *'''Comment.'''. Thanks again, it's been a pleasure to work with you, and the results have been positive for Wikiversity. --Abd 17:09, 12 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, you may delete stuff here.[edit source]

[4]. You saw notifications of changes because your page was vandalized. Look at the page history. This was your page for a short time. That's the "Hunter Mariner vandal." It was reverted, that's why you didn't see it. Nothing we can do about the notifications. --Abd 18:05, 20 September 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:KeyboardInterface.jpg[edit source]

Hi ! This file, which doesn't have a license, was uploaded by someone who I presume is one of your students. Would you be able to clarify the licensing of it ? It appears to be the student's work. --Simone 20:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes, I added the public domain license and I will contact the student. 10:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikiversity:What I have learned[edit source]

Hello, from Category:Howard Community College can be seen your activity/contribution related to Brick and mortar collaboration. It would help Wikiversity + its future users if you could share some feedback (later on), e.g. on Wikiversity:What I have learned. ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat + 13:57, 24 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't understand what you are inviting me to do. The brick and mortar seems to be organized by language rather than brick and mortar universities. 14:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Any feedback would be nice, e.g. here with:
  • could I achieve the goals I had from begin with Wikiversity (WV)?
    • If not, perhaps some suggestions (so people here could initiate steps so things could be improved for next classes).
  • perhaps experiences by the students? (contributions can also be done anonymous)
  • will I use WV again?
The brick and mortar link shows activities from all Wikiversities (I intended to show that it is kind of a global effort), if you want to see only EN.WV related ones, here's a starting point ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat + 14:15, 24 October 2011 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Project pages[edit source]

Hello! I wonder if you have a some in-depth knowledge about this project here? It came up as an example as some Wikiversity regulars were discussing revisions to the deletion policy. If you have a moment, could you take a look at the page and offer your thoughts here? I think your feedback would be really valuable. --HappyCamper 16:52, 3 February 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi again, do you know if Arduino/Junk pile steeper motor survey is a page that should be deleted? Someone put it up for deletion, but it was from an IP address only. --HappyCamper (talk) 01:05, 5 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jromanch0088 work page moves[edit source]

Hi 1stfoerster, FYI I've replied to your query here - User talk:Jtneill#Why did you mess with Jromanch0088 User Space?. Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk - c 21:38, 17 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Moving student work out of main space[edit source]

Student work which consists of answers to exercises is probably better placed in userspace rather than main space. What do you think? Could you help to encourage student work currently in main space to be moved into students' user spaces or intos subpages of a course? Let me know if I can help. Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk - c 22:08, 24 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

yes .. I do ask them .. I do try to monitor .. and have physically helped them move ... 01:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for your attention - FYI, here's are some pages I've noticed that need moving:
Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk - c 08:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There are four levels of pages, three are root documents where teams of students are summarizing work ... just one type of page belongs at the user level ... see general engineering projects ... I just removed a move command from puttputt team page1sfoerster (talk) 16:58, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Egm4313 (all of it) is not my students work 1sfoerster (talk) 17:13, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I moved the My Work3 page to user space 1sfoerster (talk) 17:20, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks again. Just so you know, the edit history can (and probably should be preserved) for a page move. So, try the page move function, which can be found on any page via the arrow next to the star (top-right) and select Move. Then the user space can be selected and page name can be the same, and the edit history as well as talk page and any subpages can also be moved automatically. Let me know if I can do anything else. Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk - c 21:57, 25 April 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

p501acm[edit source]

Hello Professor,

I noticed that the page here was recently blanked by a contributor. Do you still require that page or would you like it deleted?


Geoff (talk) 21:12, 25 July 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Geoff, Thanks for alerting me. I don't think there was enough work on the project to warrant restoring the page. Thanks 00:46, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Copyright templates on photos[edit source]

I note that many of the people who upload photos without copyright templates are apparently students. If these are people you have any influence over, please ensure that they do not upload photos unless they are public domain, or ones that the students took themselves. They should always add a template to show copyright status. Suitable templates include {{PD}} and {{Cc-by-2.0}}. Thank you for your assistance.--Collingwood (talk) 21:40, 10 January 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You are right, it is the students. Reposting other's pictures as their own is an ethics violation. We are starting the wikiversity project pages over again and will emphasize this even more. Thanks --1sfoerster (talk) 22:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Misty[edit source]

I have seen you adding pages like |User:[name]/Project]. I am a little concerned --The Gir’s and Sing 19:53, 23 September 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • It's okay, Goldenburg. The user is an Associate Professor of engineering and runs most of his class work through user space pages. It's been discussed above. It's one of many ways of doing things here. I hope he builds mainspace resources from the material, though. Otherwise the value is transient. --Abd (discusscontribs) 14:54, 25 September 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! --Aaqib talk 20:00, 25 September 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for the concern and feedback. I agree with everything above. The goal is to build something of value out of the student pages. There are three other instructors working with me on this now. We are getting closer. Confining students to user space was a great first step. Publishing to an article page needs to be seen as an honor. --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 12:50, 30 September 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Introduction[edit source]


I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Tim Ruijters. I work as a software engineer in the Netherlands. I added some information to the software development page. I hope I didn't mess up your work.


Tim Ruijters, Timboliu (discusscontribs) 11:45, 21 October 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Thanks ...

Pending Deletions[edit source]

I've been researching the list of files with Category:Pending deletions. There's a discussion started at Wikiversity:Colloquium#Pending Deletions, and an organized list of the affected resources posted at Wikiversity:Resources with Files Pending Deletion. It appears that the majority of the files are related to Howard Community College projects. Could you please review and then let us know whether you would prefer to have these images saved and tagged as Fair Use, or if you would prefer to have them deleted. Any assistance you would be willing to provide with either approach would be greatly appreciated. If there is someone else at Howard who should also be involved in this discussion, please share with them as well. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 18:25, 29 October 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deletion Requests[edit source]

Hi! I was able to process most of the deletion requests. There are three remaining. See Cardboard boats/design, Cardboard boats/materials, and Cardboard boats/Themed. Can you tell me what page each of them has been merged into? Because you weren't the only author on these, we need to merge the edit history into the page that received the text to preserve CC-BY-SA licensing. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:15, 28 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • sure .. they all collapsed into the new cardboard boat article ... there are not as many pages now .. but the design, themed and materials section on the main page has expanded .. even though it looks smaller with all the collapsed macros --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 10:04, 28 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
YesY Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:01, 28 March 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ComboLockPick[edit source]

What about Combo Lockpick/Howard Community College/Fall2012/p1-502-hwht/Friction Decision Matrix? -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:17, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Other pages also have subpages remaining. See ComboLockPick/Howard Community College. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 00:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, how do I see subpages? I want to do a massive cleanup ... collapse of sub pages into pages ... ... this doesn't work ... tools?special pages? --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 13:01, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In general, you can see subpages by using the Tools section / Page information link. Subpages are listed from there. It is also available as a direct search under Special pages using the page name as the prefix. Finally, if you visit ComboLockPick/Howard Community College, you'll see I've added {{Subpages/List}} so you can see the subpages directly from the page itself.
I'm not aware of any tool that will collapse subpages into a main page. You can include (transclude) content into a main page, but you can't simply eliminate the subpages. It gets back to the licensing problem and having to merge edit histories for the BY part of CC-BY-SA. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 13:09, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks ... Tools>Special pages while on the page interested in ... and I see the Subpage/List --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 13:16, 1 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Brad9621[edit source]

Regarding User:Brad9621, if you check his edit history, you will see that he has been defacing other users' personal pages, and also harassing other users by altering their pictures and posting them on Commons and then linking to the image on the user's page. I'm not providing links here so as to reduce embarrassment for the targeted users, but a review of his edits should provide clear evidence of harassment if your school is willing to pursue this matter.

Regarding the block, I double-checked, and it was user account only. It should not have blocked your school, except for anonymous access. But I've removed the block for now so you can continue to hold classes. Let me know if you still have issues.

Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 17:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks ... I really appreciate what you did .. and someday hope to help others like you ... Wikiversity is starting to work for us ... it has taken 3 years of fitting in ... --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 14:03, 11 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If and when I am confirmed as a full custodian, I intend to give you that opportunity.  :-) -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:47, 11 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Probationary custodianship is a brilliant device, making it possible to allow people to learn to be custodians, in action, that came under attack, largely because I was a probationary custodian.... If the mentor actually supervises, it simply amplifies the effectiveness of the mentor. If the mentor does not adequately supervise, it can be a problem.
I suggested a fix for that, and used it, with Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/Standard stop agreement. Instead of following that summary process or the like, trivial to use, we had massive disruption, Community Reviews, and hysterical emergency desysop requests. To understand why probably requires an understanding of human psychology that exceeds mine. I was just reading the old posts on Wikiversity talk:Requests for deletion. JWSchmidt was (sort of) right, but took it all so personally, and became so angry, that he was utterly ineffective at stopping what he saw as destroying Wikiversity. In fact, Wikiversity has become much closer to his vision than what he saw as arising with the "takeover."
Anyway, I will again ping JTneill, who has clearly approved the probationary work, but simply hasn't gotten to doing the paperwork on the Candidacy page to open up community discussion. I'll offer to clerk it for him. --Abd (discusscontribs) 15:06, 11 April 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blood cooler[edit source]

CoreControl has been merged into Blood cooler and content restored. The merge is necessary to preserve the edit history of the content (the BY part of CC-BY-SA). You may want to take a look at Special:PrefixIndex/Blood cooler/ to see if other pages should also be cleaned up or merged. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 12:20, 14 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have looked at the previous documentation and so have my students. It is all now in the root article. All the stubs can be deleted. Do I need to put delete on all of them? This is a dry run. The goal is to clean up everything. --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 13:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
YesY Done -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 14:18, 14 May 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Recent Deletions[edit source]

The pages you requested for deletion are removed. Note that when you're the only author, they can be deleted. When there are other authors, the edit history needs to be merged with the page you move the content to. The easiest solution is for you to use the Move option yourself from the More tab. Otherwise, tag them the way you have been and I can make sure the histories are merged with the deletion. Be sure to go back and check the ones I merged. Sometimes it doesn't display all of the versions immediately, so I may have restored one version off from the copy you created at the new name. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:08, 15 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks .. --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 12:51, 16 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Additional pages deleted. You were not the only author for one of them, so histories were merged instead. Please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Moving a page for the preferred approach to moving content like this. If you scroll down to Page histories, you'll see why it is preferred. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 14:12, 31 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks .. I read the part about page histories being important for the wikipedia copyright license .. I will try to move in the future .. maybe even tonight --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 01:46, 1 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I moved a page .. but it left a redirect that is not needed and I moved twice .. first to Wikiversity:Fly Stick and then to just "Fly Stick" .. so there may be another redirect .. the redirects feel like random garbage that I am leaving behind .. what happens to them? --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 02:22, 1 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You can tag those for speedy deletion. This way is better, because the page content keeps the history, and the redirect becomes the new creation with no history. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 02:29, 1 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 02:52, 1 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikibooks:Requests for import[edit source]

Pages can be copied to Wikibooks while preserving the edit history. See Wikibooks:Wikibooks:Requests for import. You have to use that page, because it needs to be a Wikibooks administrator who processes the request. After the request is processed, then you can add the delete tag here. This is only necessary on Wikiversity pages with other authors. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:13, 2 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks .. I doubt that there will ever be any other authors than myself --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 20:18, 2 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Both of the ones you just moved had multiple authors. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:03, 3 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

General Engineering Projects/Overview/Instructor[edit source]

Recent deletions have left a number of broken links at General Engineering Projects/Overview/Instructor. You may want to investigate. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 01:15, 9 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks .. they were all linking into my user account .. I need to make them independent of my user account .. I will fix .. --1sfoerster (discusscontribs) 21:33, 9 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Discussion of project organization[edit source]

I came across two user names for BDolge, and asked him about it, and was led to discuss project organization, you may be interested, see User talk:BDolge#Project organization. --Abd (discusscontribs) 22:33, 24 September 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Quintana-Gonzales,_Joseph[edit source]

Hello... in an effort to clean up all pages that are proposed to be moved to a certain name/page, can you deal with this page? Thank you ---Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 15:14, 2 January 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The page and subpages appear to have been examples only. We will delete unless you have any objections. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 15:45, 2 January 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]