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This Forum is sponsored by the Curriculum interest group at GreySmith Institute of Advanced Studies. It is to be used for both schools of the Institute to discuss topics of interest to the curriculum

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FORUM[edit]

Put topics of interest near the start of this file, so that it saves new people from eyestrain. Housekeeping should be at the end of the file.

Topics of Interest[edit]

Non-Genetic Darwinism[edit]

Non-Genetic Darwinism Archive 1

I see, Interesting that you would use that SOM picture on the front page--Graeme E. Smith 16:53, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I wrote some comments on the Discussion for the main page of your course. This discussion is getting rather long, and IMO it's also getting unwieldy. So perhaps we should start another discussion over there. --AFriedman 16:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I archived most of the comments, so it should be less unwieldy now.--Graeme E. Smith 18:13, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I just added a section on Immune System Darwinism, in order to illustrate how Dr. Edelman's work on the immune system that won him his Nobel prize, is related to Darwinism. I am leaving the Darwinism in Biology section for you to flesh out, because you are so much more aware of the current state of Biology Than I am, and I feel you should earn your top billing ;).--Graeme E. Smith 00:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


Introduction to Neuroscience[edit]

I see someone was trying to insert an Introduction to Neuroscience course in the Neuropsychology curriculum, while this doesn't quite fit into the framework as it is conceived, it is a related topic, and should go into the Related Topic Curriculum. Probably in a Neuroscience Curriculum Department. I haven't created that department yet, so please be patient. One of the problems is that I want to change the format of the page at the department level, and haven't figured out exactly how I will change it. Basically I see the Department level being mostly a list of projects or courses in the case of the curriculum department. I might be able to use a variation on the Forum Page format, but need to think about it a bit. I could change the Tabbed Portal into a Two Tone box, and implement the list inside the box... Hmmm....--Graeme E. Smith 06:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

That was me. I think there are other resources on WV, including this, that should be part of the Institute. --AFriedman 14:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I thought that might be you, I noticed because someone undid, some edits I had done, and the page looked awkward. No Harm, Sorry It's taking me so long to get the departments finalized, I have just been working like a beaver, trying to flesh out the pages so that the overview is more complete. Right now I am working at the third remove, in the computer school and I finally found a hook to put my own theory on. I originally had two separate divisions, but it looked awkward because I only had two subdivisions in one division, and 1 in another. I finally decided I had to combine them to make the pages look good. As soon as I get the divisional structure down, I can begin to worry about the departmental level. Its getting there and should be complete soon.--Graeme E. Smith 17:38, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

You can look at "History" of the page to see who it is. --AFriedman 17:43, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Well what confused me was that 4 of my more recent edits were undone as well as yours. So I think there was a bit of overreach on the Undo button. I noticed because my back button on that page went askew. As long as it goes above the Portals buttons it is centered, but drop it two lines and you have to align it individually. --Graeme E. Smith 17:53, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I try not to undo these kinds of things and I apologize if I did that. Maybe you were working on a page at the same time as I was. --AFriedman 17:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Like I said, no harm done, I was just curious why you chose that particular location to attempt to link to. Isn't Neuroscience usually the major topic, and Neuropsychology the minor?--Graeme E. Smith 19:22, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I didn't see a Neuroscience section. If other people are going to use this Portal, I do feel there should be other departments/academic subjects besides the 2 you have. --AFriedman 21:24, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, no doubt you are right. But GreySmith Institute is not a general science institute, it is a specialized institute and right now it is doing a project on Artificial Consciousness, The institute departments are a way of organizing research into artificial consciousness and so the Departmental structure is aimed at focusing the mind on different aspects of Artificial Consciousness, not on general science topics. That is why I have a school of Neuropsychology, Neuropsychology is the heart of the study of neural correlates for psychology, these are necessary to understanding the phenomenal theories. And, since Artificial Consciousness is also a study in how to make a conscious machine, and we are at this time more or less limited to computer modeling, I have a Computer Science School to cover the Computing Requirements. Your course in Neuroscience is important, and I didn't want to leave courses like it out, but the place for them is in the related topics curriculum, not the schools.--Graeme E. Smith 20:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you put the mission statement (WHAT the Institute is trying to find) on the front page so it's clearer? --AFriedman 16:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

No Doubt you are right, I've been too busy putting together the infrastructure, to worry about Formal statements of Mission etc. Speaking of Infrastructure, I have been thinking about the departmental structure around the sciences curriculum. I think a natural breakdown would be General Science, Advanced Study, and Self Study, Your introduction to Neuroscience would fit into the General Science category, what do you think?--Graeme E. Smith 20:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. --AFriedman 21:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


Comparative Neuroscience[edit]

What level do you think your Comparative Neuroscience Course would be, do you want it to be put in with the general science category, or would it be better in the advanced study category?--Graeme E. Smith 00:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

General science. --AFriedman 01:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

OK--Graeme E. Smith 04:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Life Sciences Working Group[edit]

I laid in the Infrastructure for your courses at GreySmith Life Sciences Working Group I also added a stub for non-genetic Darwinism. See how you like the format.--Graeme E. Smith 19:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I like the format. --AFriedman 02:38, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I thought there was something missing, course descriptions. I have adjusted the format to allow them, perhaps you would like to put your own descriptions in for your Neuroscience Courses?--Graeme E. Smith 20:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

YesY Done --AFriedman 04:06, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Housekeeping[edit]

Student Union (Student Services)[edit]

I have created a new Student Union page with a link to allow students to request new courses and show an interest in existing courses See How you think it will work, I put some examples in place--GreySmith Institute 03:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

General Layout[edit]

Who was it we should blame the stupid color scheme on?

The color scheme is minimally changed from the Tabbed portal defaults, I built this portal from. I did change the colors of the tabs from a dirty grey color to gold and silver, but that is just about it. If you want to suggest better colors feel free.

What happened to the pretty boxes? All the other Tabbed portals have pretty boxes!

Make a portal has a tutorial on how to make pretty boxes, but I wasn't impressed with the way that they looked on some of the other portals, so I stripped them out of this portal, If there is enough demand I can put them back in, but not this week!--Graeme E. Smith 19:26, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


WARNING: Hacked Tabs on everything beyond the first level[edit]

Contributors should beware of the fact that the TABs in the Tabbed Portals used in this project have been hacked to allow for more depth in the portal. If you luck into a link that is mostly red Ink, or attempt to add or edit a tab, where you think one should be, you will probably get in trouble, if you discuss what you want with me, I can suggest a way to get it.--Graeme E. Smith 00:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Why only 3 to 6 links per page?[edit]

You might notice that I have only put 3 to 6 links on each page, (Except for the bottom links which are common within the school or division. There is madness in my method, but I think you will find that limiting the number of options, reduces user fatigue. While Advanced Students are no doubt capable of keeping track of more links, people from less advanced levels of attainment, will be appreciative that I keep the number of selections they need to select between down to a small number. This is partly because Millers work suggested that the short term memory was most effective in the 7±2 range of selections.--Graeme E. Smith 00:45, 9 February 2009 (UTC)