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Contents 1 suggested sequence of tutorial pages 2 Differences 3 Science and Psychology Hypothesis 4 Is this page hostile to newcomers? 5 Interlingual 6 0/0=1 7 here I boldly edit 8 bold editing not taken kindly to in these parts 9 Protect this page?

[edit] suggested sequence of tutorial pages

It is that the sequence of tutorial pages should be:
page 1, "Explore" (state what Wikiversity is and how to find existing content) --> page 2, "edit this page" --> page 3, how to create a new page
--JWSchmidt 12:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Differences

Can any one that is there any guideline-article here related to the differece between Wikipedia and Wikiversity. If not it's better to add a guideline as Difference between Wikipedia and Wikiversity. - Vaikunda Raja 21:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is for encyclopedia articles. Wikiversity is not for encyclopedia articles. Wikiversity has other types of learning resources. There are several Wikiversity pages about Wikipedia. You might start at Wikiversity and Wikipedia services. --JWSchmidt 17:16, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Science and Psychology Hypothesis

Well lets say that a person has schizophrenia and they have delusions and visions or in their terms hallucinations. Now how much as been done to connect the delusions with a group of schizophrenias. When they hear something it is picked up on brain scans and from my observations using Natural Environmental Studies They seem to produce the same experiences and are and seemingly more inept to esp. How much of this has been observed I am Not for sure. So if any one has any concrete or a theory please let me no the supporting facts thank you

• Are you asking to what extent it is possible to find patterns of brain activity that correlate with the experience of hallucinations? Take a look at "Cerebral activity associated with auditory verbal hallucinations: a functional magnetic resonance imaging case study" and Neural correlates of inner speech and auditory verbal hallucinations: a critical review and theoretical integration. --JWSchmidt 17:16, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is this page hostile to newcomers?

No doubt someone thought it was cute to build a template into the "leave this line alone" category so this page could have all the lovely html coloring and formatting. Unfortunately it obscures what is going on for newcomers. It might be better to use a plain jane page with obvious wiki syntax that is visible to the newcomers so they can see they are actually editing the page and it is displaying what they told it to edit along with the sections above they were requested to leave alone. I suspect this page confuses rather than enlightens newcomers and thus probably scares a few away who are already timid of programming and markup languages. Time enough for them to learn about templates and leaving them alone on complex pages when they need to edit a main page or a portal page. This should be covered in advanced editing, not the first introductory page a newcomer is asked to edit. Mirwin 07:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

"The line above is a template which substitutes in the text the community wishes to remain static or permanent on the top of this introductory page." <-- I'm not sure that this sentence will mean much to new visitors. As someone who has edited for five years, I had to read it three times before I could figure it out. I'm open to experimenting with new ways to encourage people to make their first edit. --JWS 15:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interlingual

This resource is great. I have imported it to beta. Does anybody (or Erkan, or Juan?) know how to find similar pages in other languages? --Hillgentleman|Talk 05:27, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

--Ddreview 02:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)== 112508.ddreview - something basic ==

suffered a case of situational depression. Slowly I continue to recover and even slower at realizing a measurable return in faculties. Cognitive recall and memory - enough about explaining...

I am a professional land surveyor with a specific focus on inland and riparian boundary law.

I am submitting a narrative with respect to my capabilities and worth to an energy business.

I'm challenged in remembering or knowing the meaning of each and relative to each other and which is correct to use where and when.

knowledge, intellect, experience, understanding, intelligence, expertise, acumen, and wisdom

thank you for your patience

0=0 0*1=0*1 0/0*1=1 0/0=0

[edit] 0/0=1

0=0 0*1=0*1 0/0*1=1 0/0=1

The one who wrote the previous equation should understand that mathematics never plays such jokes. First of all dividing by zero is not accepted in Mathematics unless the value is infinity. See the | Rational number definition for more understanding. Finally 0/0 is an illegal term in Maths regardless the rest of the mathematical expression, and that's why limits are used. For more information about these tricks visit this wikipedia page | Fallacies based on division by zero--Email4mobile 02:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] here I boldly edit

Is there a Wiki-Kidversity ??? ( Kids are generally alot smarter than most teachers realize, and if a simplified interface was made, kids could start to contribute an entire universe of content. )

One potential "Wiki-Growth Exponentiator" might be finding a way to better integrate online social networking to bring in a new breed of cyber netizen nerds. The people of www.szstuff.com are a good example of people who seek to teach and learn. Online social networking has an addictive element... The most effective learning is that which fully engages an array of one's senses.

Uni students love listening to and making music, right? Can't wikiversity have featured pages for wikibands to share musical knowledge whilst collaborating on other academic projects?

That's my two cents. Spend it wisely. ;) (The preceding unsigned comment was added by andrew.aker (talk • contribs) 04:22, 30 September 2009.)

Some good ideas with potential here. For some possible starting points, try:

-- Jtneill - Talk - c 00:00, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] bold editing not taken kindly to in these parts

gimme a break for editing the wrong way. it was my first edit.

anyway, i thought it fit better where it was than the comment that currently resides there. who says they can override my comment?

not cool wikiversidad

[edit] Protect this page?

I've just reverted page blanking practically twice in a row over here. It looks like too many people, intentionally or otherwise, are destroying the beautiful content we've put on this page. Perhaps the page needs a bit more protection than it's been given. For people who want to make their first edit, why don't we direct them to a blank page that we have open in a new window? --AFriedman 07:42, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

We could modify the page to send people to Sandbox for editing (which has a bot to tidy it) - or an empty-ish subpage? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 09:27, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I think the intention was to send them to a sandbox page, for edits but navigating to a sandbox page is too advanced for most starting editors. Perhaps link the Edit button on the page to a sandbox page with a translocation of an explanation of what is different here.--Graeme E. Smith 14:30, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Graeme, I like that idea. Or, protect the page and give readers a link to the sandbox (which would open in a new window) so readers don't change the original page? Basically, something that is workable for new users and would stop the periodic destruction to the page. --AFriedman 02:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

See what you think about these changes. I think we encourage sandbox editing and then there is one less place to monitor. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 05:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Is there any way to have the link to the sandbox open in a new window or tab? Otherwise, I am concerned that going to the sandbox might get new users lost. --AFriedman 18:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Had a quick play/search but couldn't get anything working here from mw:Manual:Opening external links in a new window. Whilst it may be short-term helpful, since this would not be normal navigation (opening a new window), it could actually be more confusing. So, at the moment I'm ambivalent about putting in non-normal navigation (opening a link in a new window/tab). -- Jtneill - Talk - c 21:59, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing the MediaWiki page. I was looking at the page and was wondering how you changed it to show the link to the sandbox? Also, I accidentally blanked the page myself while I was experimenting. It seems like this would be awfully easy to do even for users in good faith, and hard to revert for people who don't know what they're doing. Do you think anything is lost if we protect the page? Before you made the link to the sandbox, non-experimental edits hadn't happened there in a long time. --AFriedman 01:03, 30 October 2009 (UTC)