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Instructions[edit]

Please add your request for custodianship (or other staff positions) below. Include a short summary of why you think you should be given the privileges and please refer to your involvement in other Wikimedia projects. If you have sysop/bureaucrat status at a sister project, please indicate so as well.

In a wiki, trust arises from good editing of webpages and "good editing" is what advances the project. If you have a record of good editing then you are likely to be trusted and be granted the tools to protect pages from vandalism and block vandals and delete useless pages. Having those tools really just means you have to do more work -dull and boring work - for the community.

Please place candidate requests or nominations on a subpage and transclude it here.

Requests and Nominations for Probationary Custodianship[edit]

Notes
  1. Registered users can both request custodianship, or be nominated for it by others. Candidates that have not accepted a nomination, or have failed to secure a mentor within one week are archived as incomplete.
  2. See MediaWiki Administrator's Handbook for some details on what options are available for custodians.
  3. Candidates can request a mentor from those listed at Wikiversity:List of custodian mentors; the requested mentor must agree.
  4. Candidates: please respond to any questions from the community about your wiki editing and wiki participation.

Ruy Pugliesi (talk | email | contribs | stats)[edit]

Hi everyone!

I am applying for probationary custodianship on enwikiversity. My contributions mainly focus on countervandalism work over here.

I am already experienced with administrative tools on Meta-Wiki (where I am mostly active) and on other content and non-content projects, like ptwiki, hiwiki, mediawiki, testwiki and strategywiki. I'm also a global rollbacker.

If I may, I would like to have SB Johhny as a mentor. =D

Regards, Ruy Pugliesi 13:35, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Questions[edit]

  • In what ways do you consider your administrative experience at Meta-Wiki to benefit participants at Wikiversity?
As a cross-wiki vandal/spam fighter and a sysop on several projects, I think I have enough administrative experience for dealing with vandals and other maintenance activities. I have learned from my experience as a SWMT member how to establish a appropriate course of action in a great variety of situations. Ruy Pugliesi 15:44, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
  • What do you consider appropriate actions for vandalism at Wikiversity?
First of all, we should leave the vandal a warning message and let him aware of to what policies he is not following. Otherwise, further violations may incur a block. Ruy Pugliesi 15:44, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

-- darklama  13:50, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

  • Would you mind starting a blog? If not, why? What do you think about tasks for custodians as mentioned here?
Seems to be interesting. However, I think I wouldn't have enough time to concentrate my efforts in such kind of activity due to my cross-wiki work over all Wikimedia projects. Ruy Pugliesi 13:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Which learning project/resource do you like at Wikiversity?
Mainly Computer Science, Communication Technologies and Linguistics. Ruy Pugliesi 13:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
  • Which one do you want to improve with your contributions?
Possibly Linguistics and Computer Science. However, as I said above, my contributions mainly focus on countervandalism work and other administrative tasks. Thanks for your questions. Ruy Pugliesi 13:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat + Identi.ca 14:01, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

  • How do you redirect a vandal's energy and enthusiasm?
  • How do you transform a vandal into someone that creates and participates in courses?
  • Do you think volunteering to be a mentor for vandals would be a good use of your time?

-- darklama  14:31, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Answers (1, 2 and 3):
Redirecting a vandal's energy and enthusiasm is something hard to do, but it's not impossible at all. Sometimes, vandals represent the "dark side" of good faith editors who became disappointed with things that occured a long time ago. I venture say that "mentoring" may be the key word here. We can always show them how interesting a wiki can be by bringing up unexplored things to do in a project.
Can I think of volunteering to be a mentor for vandals? Maybe. I am already experienced with mentoring a reformed vandal/sockpuppeter on Portuguese Wikipedia. He actually did some positive contributions after my mentorship. I think that everybody should be given a second chance to become a positive contributor and edit freely. Thanks for your questions. Ruy Pugliesi 13:39, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

Custodians willing to mentor[edit]

Given his experience (especially as part of strategywiki), and Draicone's recommendation, I'd be more than happy to mentor. --SB_Johnny talk 07:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Probationary custodian period started[edit]

YesY Done -- Jtneill - Talk - c 02:00, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Sidelight12 (talk | email | contribs | stats)[edit]

Hi. I want to import pages, and edit histories from other wikis, that are written as guides. In the case where an article was copied and pasted with no further effort to that page, and it is not practical to be fixed, I intend to bring it to attention by clearing the page. I want to be useful to other editors who want to import pages, and to improve Wikiversity. I do an organized job and plan to of keeping account that page histories and information gets kept. Thanks. Sidelight12 Talk 10:30, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

YesY Done This starts the 4 week period of probationary custodianship. My apologies for the lengthy delay. I was hoping another bureaucrat would activate as I have nominated and offered to mentor (I would generally prefer someone else to add the custodian rights), but we clearly need more active custodians. [1] -- Jtneill - Talk - c 23:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Questions[edit]

Hi Sidelight12, thanks for your useful work already on en.wv (over 750 edits). I think those edits indicate already a good knowledge of Wikiversity admin and MediaWiki, with a growing understanding and participation in the en.wv community, so I am confident that you would make good use of import, delete etc. Could you tell us a bit more about what sorts of material and from where you are thinking of importing - e.g., perhaps there are some categories? Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk - c 00:52, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

  • There were horticulture articles, that I wanted to bring over. For instance w:houseplant care to 'indoor plant lighting requirements'; histories or materials for grafting and plant propagation, for instance w:willow Water. Something from w:tree shaping and w:pruning to be linked to from the bonsai article. Article content I would like to import is with math, science, environmental, human development and small scale building projects/activities. There are articles already pasted over, that lack the edit history, if these are practical to Wikiversity with consideration of if enough effort was made to document that it was copied over, I plan to bring the histories over. Articles with little how-to substance are better rewritten, than being imported, in my opinion. I will refuse to bring over distasteful or potentially harmful materials. If necessary, I plan to document on the talk pages, so future authors would have an easier time editing and keeping track. If an editor makes a request, I will have to leave it to them that the information is accurate, especially of a subject that I have little knowledge of. (<750 edits) Sidelight12 Talk 09:30, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

  • I believe Sidelight12 is a good candidate.--Collingwood (talk) 16:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Thank you. -- Sidelight12 Talk 13:53, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Custodians willing to mentor[edit]

Hi Sidelight12, I am willing to mentor. Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk - c 22:21, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm still interested. I accept. Thanks. - Sidelight12 Talk 05:34, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm still up for it. Someone needs to update the language links on the main page. - Sidelight12 Talk 17:19, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Mentor's recommendation[edit]

Sidelight12 has been a probationary custodian for 13 months. Yesterday Sidelight12 was emergency desysopped by Snowolf from meta for wheel-warring use of block/unblock. Due to the lack of consultation and discussion initiated by Sidelight12 (e.g., to seek mentor and/or community guidance) around the use of the block/unblock tool, I am not currently willing to reinstate admin rights (as a bureaucrat) or recommend Sidelight12 for full mentorship (as a mentor). -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:10, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Marshallsumter (talk | email | contribs | stats)[edit]

Hi!

From the "How does one become a probationary custodian?" policy at Wikiversity:Probationary custodians:

  1. "State your reasons for seeking this position and in what areas you are or would like to be active": while I am and will continue to help with Wikiversity:Resources with Files Pending Deletion, Wikiversity:User Pages with Files Pending Deletion, and Wikiversity:Unused Files Pending Deletion, so as to possibly save resources, I am willing where and when possible to help with other custodial matters.
  2. "The community will be given a period of five days to discuss your background, ask questions, and determine if there are any serious issues that would prohibit you from being trusted to use Custodianship tools." Fire away!
  3. "Custodian mentors are expected to guide and advise you on the appropriate use of custodian privileges in accordance with established policy and community consensus." As I believe in both open systems and do not wish to slight anyone, I am asking for such a mentor here as and when point 2 above is being completed. As I interpret, ""Experienced custodians" means Wikiversity custodians who have at least 3 months of experience as a sysop ("administrator" = "custodian") on Wikimedia Foundation projects.", this also includes probationary custodians with at least 3 months of experience, especially if any of our usual mentors are unavailable or not as active as in the past. To me a mentor is someone willing to answer my questions.
  4. As I understand this process, this request disappears in 7 days if points 2 and 3 are not completed in time. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 21:59, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Questions[edit]

  • Marshallsumter, how, in your opinion, are your contributions helpful to Wikiversity? And what are your contributions? --goldenburg111 (talk) 16:43, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Goldenburg111!

Thank you for your question! To answer the second part first, in the section above it shows "Marshallsumter (...,contribs), just click on the "contribs" and it should list them for you. A second is to click on contribs after your own name and after the display, exchange my user name for yours and it will list mine. Excepting routine edits to other resources, my contributions focus on original research efforts in a variety of fields. The lectures/articles are learning resources which stand on their own to help Wikiversity students and educators alike. In the sense of education they are helpful contributions to Wikiversity. Lessons, problem sets, and laboratory activities are designed hopefully to succeed in Wikiversity's goal of learning by doing. The quizzes are presented to help students learn through iteration as well as improve their test-taking skills and hopefully help to overcome any test-taking anxiety they may have.

I am trying to bring each contribution to the state of the art or science for its field both to help Wikiversity resources to be at that state and to show where original research finds and fills in (or creates) new knowledge where there is a gap or void. I hope this helps to answer your questions. Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 20:58, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! --goldenburg111 (talk) 21:21, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
  • 2nd question: What is your response to a user who has messaged you a comment like this? --goldenburg111 (talk) 21:21, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
It depends on the context. If it's vandalism, I delete it. If it persists, I ask a custodian to block the sender. But, the context may indicate someone who could benefit from contributing here as you and Abd have discussed with respect to apparent vandals. If its intent is malicious, it is worse than vandalism. If its intent is attention, it depends me. I hope this helps. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 02:30, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. --Goldenburg111 (talk) 21:49, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Comments[edit]

Essentially, as soon as a permanent custodian is willing to mentor, and a 'crat is willing to set the bit, a candidate becomes a permanent probationary custodian. It's a very simple process. There is no time limit for a request. Any restrictions are a matter of agreement between the mentor and the probationary custodian (but a 'crat effectively approves by acting). --Abd (discusscontribs) 23:44, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying this Abd. Perhaps the non-policy Wikiversity:Probationary custodians should disappear? --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 20:09, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Are we stopping or not? --goldenburg111 (talk) 16:42, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
As exampled above, the suggested policy could pose a number of severe restrictions to Wikiversity having more probationary custodians. Most of us are creating or improving resources, this includes custodians and probationary custodians. In my opinion, such severe restrictions may serve as a resource in understanding and learning from the creation of policy, for the creation of functionally progressive policy, but instead may result in unnecessary political restrictions. One alternative is to remove the resource from actual policy consideration to a learning resource on how to develop policy, another is to put it up for deletion. What do you think? Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 21:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg I agree with you. --goldenburg111 (talk) 21:27, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Pages in Wikiversity space with policy proposals would generally not be deleted; rather, they would be deprecated. I.e., the proposal, if not accepted in a reasonable period of time, would be marked as rejected or inactive. I'll take a look, but I need to be careful about involvement in policy pages. This really isn't the place to discuss that. The place to discuss policy and proposed policy is on attached Discussion pages. Meanwhile, I assume, this and other custodianship requests will be handled as traditionally. Give it time. --Abd (discusscontribs) 23:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
  • The original policy page makes no reference to a period in which to find a mentor. However Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship does, referring to archiving a request if no mentor is found within a week. Given the paucity of active permanent custodians, that could be impractical. (At one time, with many custodians available, it made sense.) However it's harmless, because a candidate may continue to seek a mentor by requesting it of permanent custodians, and a candidacy may be reinstated at any time, trivially. --Abd (discusscontribs) 23:34, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Marshallsumter is a major contributor to Wikiversity, and he is constructive, so I believe he deserves to be a custodian. - Sidelight12 Talk 21:43, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
Banned from Wikipedia Discussion[edit]
Marshallsumter, you have been banned from Wikipedia? I am very concerned about this. I would like Marshallsumter to reply to me. Marshall, what do you have to say about your ban from Wikipedia? (verify) --Goldenburg111 (talk) 15:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your question! The indefinite ban on my contributing to Wikipedia is for two "violations" of their policy. The first is bringing some of their articles and ones I wrote, some 250, to the state of the art or science using primary sources following US copyright law. The effort in each article I originated was called "original research", banned on Wikipedia, which each was not yet at, but has found a home here. The second is that at Wikipedia following US copyright law to produce entries there as I do here is considered a violation of Wikipedia copyright policy. Wikipedia endeavors to sell books to individuals world-wide including those within countries and territories that have a more restrictive copyright law than the US; hence, my entries may cause legal problems for these book producing and selling efforts in these countries. In spite of this policy the WMF has included probably all of my Wikipedia entries in various books sold world-wide without any apparent problems. I hope this helps. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 23:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Were you warned? --Goldenburg111 (talk) 01:16, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your question! The answer has two parts. Individuals in 2011 would put an entry up for deletion as having original research and I would disagree. No one warned me about the copyright concerns! Let me add that as a US citizen I am required to follow US copyright law. Wikipedia copyright policy at least at that time is too restrictive. I hope this helps. --Marshallsumter (discusscontribs) 10:33, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
@Abd thank you for clarifying. Abd, I agree with you that Wikipedia is an alien planet. But yet, as I believe it, being banned or block on another wiki does not qualify for adminship on any other wiki. Well, since they skipped right to a banning discussion, like they did to me on Simple English Wikipedia. I'll change my oppose to a support. :) Cheers! --Goldenburg111 (talk) 21:46, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Custodians willing to mentor[edit]

I am willing to mentor. -- Dave Braunschweig (discusscontribs) 20:27, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

YesY Done @Marshallsumter: is now a probationary custodian with @Dave Braunschweig: as mentor. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 13:13, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Nominations for Full Custodianship[edit]

Notes
  1. Candidates for full custodianship are listed here by their mentor after the one month probationary period. Do not add self-nominations to this section (use the section of this page Requests for Custodianship).


Nominations for CheckUser[edit]

Notes

CheckUsers are required to follow Wikimedia Foundation's CheckUser policy, including requirements for gaining access to the checkuser tools.

  1. Candidates must be 18 years of age or older, of legal age in place of residence, be familiar with Meta:Privacy policy, and supply identification to the Wikimedia Foundation.
  2. Candidates must have 70-80% agreed consensus or more and a minimum of 25-30 votes in support by local community members. Following this, permission must be requested from the Wikimedia Foundation. Projects must have 2 or more check users, or none at all.

None at present.

Nominations for Bureaucratship[edit]

None at present.

See also[edit]