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[edit] Tasks

Hi, yeasterday, you were posting me some pages I may study. But I had a difficulty to find them. Could you next time place a task list on my talk page instead of IRC, please. Thanks.--Juandev 19:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Draft of a Working Paper for Education

Hi, and thanks for being so good about helping me around Wikiversity! I've contested the deletion of the Draft of a Working Paper for Education at Brown University page, as I have obtained permission from the author to release it under a CC-BY-NC licence. Is this O.K.? I've also released the work on the Internet Archive: [[1]] 72.128.35.111 22:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Ping!

You might want to have a peek: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#Do_we_have_any_defense_at_all_against_meteors.2C_black_holes.2C_etc..3F --SB_Johnny talk 15:34, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

And again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#How_long_will_it_take_for_Pluto_to_clear_its_neighborhood.3F ... are you watching that page? --SB_Johnny talk 22:25, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Intelligent Design

I have made some categories.--Daanschr 20:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Middle School Science

Earth and Space Science needs editing help -> Middle_School_Science/Earth_and_Space_Science I guess the strategy is to keep it as light as possible, because the text is meant to be teacher support for project-based learning to assure that required learning (as in NCLB) is being covered while the students are doing their "own thing." It is hard to know exactly how deep the requirements are.

My strategy right now is to get more books of test questions (to re-gear myself into a testing mind-set), and then blend them into the existing Google docs as I implement them in the the wv pages.

More important to me right now with respect to wv is the Scientific Method, which I want to call the Scientific Model because we are not in a position to raise funds for hypothesis testing (and probably neither are our "students"), but we can create real-life models to apply to the surrounding environment to see if they fit. Applying models in the business of real-life should realize benefits to the model appliers, assuming the model is accurate. If not, the model has to be rewritten or adjusted. I also want to flesh out research ideas while working on the page to help give wv policy direction for research projects. Please give me your take on this renaming of the Scientific Method.

Recovery therapy and learning: I got this immediately. I have a writing on teaching hurricanes to students in areas that may be hit by hurricanes, and hence traumatized, to show how learning can actually be theraputic through what is called the "construction of knowledge." I have my cut+paste full of unrelated material at the moment, but middle school science will be my focus soon, so I will try to attack all angles including technology in teaching, aka wv.

Recent writing: Absolutely I plan to insert the google doc pages into the Wikiversity. The only reason I have not so far is that they are not fully rewritten so as to be original writing, and hence free of proprietary copyright. This is the major issue, and the minor issue is that they have to be fact-checked.

Since I am entering a teacher certification program this summer, the topic is "back in play" for me, and I will be completing the pages on google docs, first with an eye to copyright infringment, and then to assure accuracy. Keep in mind that they are written "to the test," where the tests are the Praxis certification tests. I want to add requirements from other tests such as the New York State teacher exams.

As it happens I am back working in information technology; I will be looking at educational software to create an equity trading school. The equity trading information will be proprietary (something I don't really care about), but I want to somehow blend the functionality of the MediaWiki with other public domain educational software such as Moodle. Moodle attempts to emulate a top-down didactic structure, whereas the Wiki is clearly different, and hard to define! As both are written in PHP, the sharing of code and expertise seem possible.

Mu301 asked and I answered above: One thing I'm unclear on - are the links to google docs (ie. [1]) pages that you created? Do you have plans to start similar pages here at wv? I'm not sure where I could help out if much of the material is off-site.

Previous writing: --some text deleted (see first policy discussion)--‎

Your contributions are timely as I am entering a summer program to be certified in middle school science in Connecticut (USA). As it happens, Earth Science is key to middle school learning/teaching, and Astronomy is of course a component of Earth Science studies.

The intrusion of social sciences into the scientific method, or perhaps model, is making a fuss. The "ivory tower" is giving way to the "action research" model, which initially recruited prostitutes as researchers in the research of their sub-culture giving them the ability to construct the "steps" for their escape from their self-imposed dangers.

The difficulty in writing about education for youngsters is in making the writing applicable to both the teachers as well as the youngsters. Perhaps the scientific method information can move to its own page, leaving behind something kids can discuss in class. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by John Bessa (talkcontribs) 13:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Reorganizing project but currently blocked

Hello I am in charge of this class project "http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Design_for_the_Environment" and I need to reorganize it for the current year. However, I currently blocked from doing this. Could you unblock me. Thanks --Thomson 03:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I am trying to edit: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Design_for_the_Environment but it says "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: This page has been locked to prevent editing." Can this page be unlocked? Thanks --Thomson 03:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Artificial Consciousness

I was just trying to put a link into my home page to my Artficial Consciousness page on WikiVersity, but it can't find the page is there some prefix I have to put in front of the file name in order to tell it to look on wikiVersity? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Graeme E. Smith (talkcontribs) 20:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

OOPS! sorry didn't mean to forget to sign my question, it seems a colon is needed as a prefix.--Graeme E. Smith 20:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Non-Genetic Darwinism

Sorry to bother you again, I see you are interested in Astronomy, I am just starting to build a course on Non-Genetic Darwinism, and I have forgotten where I read about the red shift, and galaxy formation as being an indication that the Big Bang was wrong, and possibly the second law of thermodynamics as well. Do you know anyone who could help me find such references?--Graeme E. Smith 20:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiversity policy studies proposal

If my studies become complex, I like to put myself on a mono-diet of my ideas to create a pure test model. In a sense a wiki is a on a wiki mono-diet, because everything is a wiki article page, and the results of the information developed in the page fit the phenomena of the wiki model.

After looking over the pages suggested to me in the "what wikiversity is not" discussion, I concluded that wikiversity is not on a wiki mono-diet, but should be. The policies seem to be defining wv in terms of everything except wiki-based learning.

A wiki by itself is an educational vehicle in the purest sense following the wiki phenomena, where an aggregate of wiki pages in a single wiki community should create a wiki-produced conceptual view of the world. I believe that such a conception should be nearly completely accurate. A wiki is not the only web community format to produce a nearly perfect conception, but it may be the best (so far). My personal experience with web-based information aggregation has been that, given contributor freedom, the knowledge created will be the best available.

I am seeing a lot of ideas that do not necessarily support the Internet as the modern Information Society, let alone the wiki phenomena, but ideas that want to re-implement antiquated structural ideas that have no place in the modern Information Society.

Going with the idea of a wiki mono-diet, we might want to create an aggregate study as a single article of exactly what is going on, and what should be going on with respect to our growth: Wikiversity studies.

The primary problem is this: I do not see that the policy structure is going to promote wiki-based studies, and those that are produce here seem to wander off to other wiki-communities. I think we need to work primarily towards wiki-retention, to fight wiki-attrition. To fight this we need to provide things that our scholars need, specifically support, and also we need to define what value we want add to the planet, how we want to help humanity. In other words, we need to define the wv in terms of six billion others rather than ourselves. Otherwise the good courses will simply move on to other wikis, as I am seeing.

Within that we need to define what server-type services we need to have to facilitate our scholars (I have a lot of ideas about this). And to do this we can simply study ourselves and our own needs. Such a study would be unique and would probably become famous because it could show how learning in a democratic environment can be the information source for policy making.

Ideally wv should generate ideas to be used in other wikis and similar study sites, but not necessarily the wp.

I think that this mission is valid and necessary, and that the "charity should start at home," should fully embrace the wiki phenomena. And hence my idea of wiki-education policy studies as a wikiversity mono-diet. Unfortunately there is no place to post this idea... except to start a wikiveristy policies study article.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by John Bessa (talkcontribs) 17:17, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Usurpation Status?

Any update to my attempt to usurp User:Doug? This is the only English Language project on which I do not have the name User:Doug and one of only three total projects.--BewareofDoug 10:29, 23 February 2009 (UTC) (elsewhere Doug(talk contribs))

[edit] Mentorship

Hi Mikeu! I know you're interested in outreach to new users. I've been working on developing more organized mentorship resources and better recognition for mentors and mentees. I would appreciate your help and feedback on Wikiversity:Mentors and Research Mentoring Program. Thanks. --AFriedman 18:36, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Usurpation follow-up

Crats: I messaged a couple of you previously about this but just noticed there was a specific note to message all crats on Wikiversity:Changing_username#User_rename_requests and due to the delay thought I'd better do again: I'm following up on my request from December at Wikiversity:Changing_username#Usurpation_of_User:Doug, no action has been taken. mikeu mentioned back in January that there was a technical problem with some of the tools and I see that mentioned on the Changing Username page now too. Reviewing the problem myself though, I am not clear on why this administrative issue is really a problem. I can see why it might be in some cases but not allowing clearly valid requests to go through without a pro forma check seems silly. For the life of me, I cannot see what these two tools would tell you for information about a user that you can't get nearly as easily through other means, particularly when we're talking about accounts that haven't edited in years in most cases and even then very little. I know there are only four of you, but the request ahead of mine has been sitting since July. That user and I are both Sysops on other projects and are both trying usurp accounts that appear to be clearly dead. I've actually been waiting before taking a more active role here until my account was fully unified and it looks like you could use a bit of help. Cheers! --BewareofDoug 03:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

  • Hey! What's going on? You left a message on the usurpation page over a month ago saying that you were going to look into the back log and clear it up. I only just found it though because you didn't respond to any of the individual requests or messages on our talk page. I have tried to contact all four crats on here, on other projects, and via e-mail and have gotten no response since you left me a message in January! I know there are only three active crats but this is becoming ridiculous; please promote some custodians if you need more help. --BewareofDoug 19:54, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Usurpation of Jackie

You can finish the request about usurpation of User:Jackie account? I wrote {{Usurpation requested}} on the talk page of target account about 2 month ago... Need rename Jackie-ru-ru-new -> Jackie. --Jackie-ru-ru-new 08:23, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Usurpation of User:Ethan

mikeu, can my usurpation request (and all the other people who have been asking as well) yet? the tools seem to be working, so usurping should be possible. Thanks, -Ethan (talk) • 2009-04-18 14:52 (UTC)


[edit] Information

I think my IRC timed out. Here is the info - Paul Lewis Broer, employee of the Jet Propulsion Lab. He was assigned to help with Voyager I (around 1980) after they discovered that there were particles in the dark spots of Saturn's rings. He had to figure out a way to get the craft to maneuver around the rings. I was wondering if you could find any documents that may have mentioned his involvement and what exactly was done. Ottava Rima (talk) 02:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Block

User:Unstoppable Fandal needs a block. Proxima Centauri 08:24, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Does Vandalism Peak during the Summer?

I have noticed a distinct increase in vandalism in the last month at least on my own projects, some of this seems to be interwiki, Does past history suggest that there is a peak between June and September for such vandalism?--Graeme E. Smith 16:23, 28 June 2009 (UTC)