User talk:JWSchmidt/First half 2008 discussions

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I see the movie... Thanks![edit]

I see the movie. Thanks. I now can spend only one hour a day and most of that is uploading students assignments so it will be a while before the filmmaking course of fully developed. By the way, will we be given any notice before they pull the plug. I don't have copies of my content and I have not figured out a way to archive it. ~~~~ Robert Elliott 05:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Bureaucratship nomination[edit]

Hi John, and Happy New Year! On the basis of a query, and an exchange probably a few months ago now (!), I have proposed to revive your nomination for bureacratship. I've done so on the Colloquium. Cormaggio talk 10:54, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

From Faus[edit]

--Faustnh 18:03, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

( In response to ... )

Hi JWSchmidt . Happy 2008 . Currently I'm developing a project that makes me impossible to dedicate myself to biology subjects with the predisposition and effectiveness I think they require and deserve . I have some ideas since time ago , but my present personal circumstance is not the time for me to consider them . I guess I'll need to wait for some time . Regards .

Mission statements, motto contests and the like[edit]

Hi JWS. I'm lumbering around the various pages devoted to early Wikiversity history such as mission statements and the like, adding historical tags and pointers to what I think/hope are the latest equivalents. You may wish to check that I'm right, as my knowledge of early history and the purpose of some of these pages is rather poor. Check out my recent contributions and look for anything suspicious! I'm quite sure that half the time I don't know what I doing, and the rest of the time it's only little better. --McCormack 09:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Question for you[edit]

Hi. Where is bureacruats sysop and checkuser on wikiversity?(project-page). Cheers. Prasuk historyk 13:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

OK thank you very much. Sorry, but I am active on polish wiki-projects:wikinews and wikibooks, so ask forgiveness, if I long no write for you. Prasuk uwagi 21:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

m:Wikimedia projects[edit]

m:Wikimedia projects does not list Wikiversity at all. Were you aware? Should this be changed? --McCormack 11:58, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


Thanks again for converting the punch card sound file to ogg. I've uploaded some images of the machine that made the sounds to Commons:

--mikeu 22:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the links. I'll look into them when I've got time.Barbara Shack 14:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Possible Research[edit]

Thanks for the link. I‘ve started to read Dan Dennett's work. I followed the link from the Dan Dennett page to w: Deathbed conversion and wrote a new section, w: Deathbed conversion#Religious pressure. It’s also here. It won’t get deleted on Wikinfo. In the talk page of the Wikinfo article I wrote more. Perhaps Wikiversity may want to research how far the anecdotal material I gave can be confirmed by hard evidence. The Secular Web may have information. Perhaps Wikiversity may want to research how far what I and a few others wrote in the Magdalene laundry article is reliable. I’m sure most of the sources are reliable but some may need to be confirmed. It’s now nearly 10 PM in Birmingham where I live. I don’t know what time it is where you are. I’ll come back and write more tomorrow. Barbara Shack 21:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Welcome[edit]

Thanks for the welcome, but I was wondering whether the policies here would be implementable here. Thanks. Blow of Light 04:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Heads up[edit]

Lost internet connection since Sept 2007, but still researching Wikiversity. In case you wondered what happened to me:) -- User:PeterMG

Learning communities[edit]

Hi John, I've used some of your comments from the recent Colloquium discussion on action research etc on the discussion group page for the Wikiversity learning model. Your input would be great. Cormaggio talk 10:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments - I copied them to the discussion group page. And yes, I'd noticed you were a bit more absent these days - is this a long or short-term thing? Cormaggio talk 16:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problems[edit]

Your currently affected images are below. Please provide a license template and source for each. Thanks. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 23:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


replied on my talk page – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 19:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Life origins-Original Research[edit]

Dear Mr JWSchmidt

I would like to add a few lines to the "Life Origins" page at Wikiversity. Since their content, and that of the external link to which they point, can only be classified as 'original research', I ask you for your advice and consent. I was told this kind of material may, under precaution, be included in the Wikiversity pages (unlike the Wikipedia, from where they were correctly reverted, some months after I added them, unaware of its policies). I think you are well equipped to detect pseudoscience and I ask you therefore to submit my ideas to the criteria to which your 'pseudoscience' link make reference. If you think the content of my website does not suffice to determine its degree of 'scientificity', please let me know what your doubts are. I have been lately experiencing how hard it is for a person who is not a member of the academia to get his ideas through. That is why I hope you are not someone who thinks every important concept comes from Harvard or the Max Planck Institute, and help me increase the exposure of my work by granting me this space.

My URL is

Thank you very much for your attention,

Raul A Felix de Sousa.

Maybe at the point where I rather dogmatically wrote "free oxygen on Earth is of biological origin" you could insert something about the idea of there being physical processes for significant non-biological production of atmospheric oxygen. My suggestion would be to include a link to a new Wikiversity page (you could call the new page something like The Ecopoesis model or whatever you think is most descriptive). On that new page, take care to explain exactly how you use the term "ecopoesis" and feel free to link to external resources such as your personal website. "help me increase the exposure of my work" <-- Remember, it is not the goal of Wikiversity to provide promotional links to "fringe personal websites". The goal here is to provide resources that help people explore their personal interests and learning goals. You could fashion part of your page (or a subpage) as a "debate club" or "a reading group" or as a request for peer-review of the "Ecopoesis model". On your new page, I suggest that you make an effort to include citations to previously published peer-reviewed research on attempts to understand the chemistry of Earth's atmosphere during the past 4 billion years. In other words, try to place your original research in the context of what other people think. --JWSchmidt 16:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Ecopoesis Model[edit]

Dear JWSchmidt,

I have followed your instructions and added The Ecopoesis Model to Wikiversity. The link in the "Life origins" page is not exactly where you suggested because I didn't see how to add it without breaking the logical sequence in exposing the subject. I you think it should be rearranged, please feel free to do it. The "Ecopoesis Model" page is basically an abridged version of the website, slightly modified to fit the educational purposes of Wikiversity and providing a few key references, also chosen and explained correspondingly. I welcome your suggestions for improvement.


Raul A Felix de Sousa.

Not on IRC[edit]


Haven't seen you on IRC lately; usually you are a fixture there, so I wanted to say hi. It's not that you don't deserve a wikibreak (for sure you do), but I was wondering what was up. Hope all is well, and hope to see you around (if not in IRC, elsewhere on WV) soon. Take Care Historybuff 06:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Collaboration with the[edit]

Check it out with Jeff Lebow...

  • Maybe you could start a page here at Wikiversity that would explain "The Webcast Academy". I'm sorry I do not have time now to investigate it. --JWSchmidt 03:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Welcome to The Webcast Academy. The Academy is a hands on, collaborative training center for people interested in learning how to produce and host live, interactive webcasts. You can learn more about The Webcast Academy at, check out our resources, and register to post comments and questions in the forums. We are seeking collaboration for our Advanced User Modules, see the above link, as Wikiversity interfaces well with our Curriculum.
Please edit Webcast Academy to give a sense of what collaborations would be possible and worthwhile. Please also see Wiki Campus Radio (where the Wikiversity community is exploring webcasting), and perhaps leave a note on the Colloquium or for User:Historybuff who is currently doing some work on this. Cormaggio talk 10:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


how old do you have to be when you are a student on wikiversity?? i am only 13 years old but i reallt take intrest in these topics that wikiversity has. (The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 00:04, 26 February 2008.)

Hi, you can take part here. Even younger persons can do (see e.g. Wikiversity:Pre-tertiary portal). Just dig into what interests you here and try to find people in these areas. BTW: you can also have here other roles than being student. You could also be e.g. lecturer - we are in the virtual world here. ----Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat 00:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikiversity Beta[edit]

Hello John. There is the first bot proposal for Beta in your talk page there. Please take a look.--ZaDiak 19:18, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


You are busy in the real world, but we seldom see you around here anymore. I just saw a disambiguation you did on the page Language, and it made me think of you. Anyway, I hope things are well and that maybe you'll find some time for Wikiversity in the future when things shift. :-) --Remi 06:58, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Nice. Don't flunk too many students. : ) --Remi 05:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:yet another job[edit]

Thx, somebody has to do it :-) How are things in real life ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 10:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, try to convince someone to do your class in WV, then we will see more often again. Are you trying to convert the class already to true Wikiversitans ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 00:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Please Help[edit]

Hi, Im registered as Thuvack on wikiversity. I forgot my password & I've got a new mailbox at work. I think wikiversity still has my old email cause when I request for a new password, it gets send to my obselete e-mail box. Please help.

Old e-mail adress: New e-mail adress:

Or should I create another account?


15:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC) (The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 13:07, 31 March 2008.)

Hello, are you sure you created that account ? I don't find such an account here, see [1]. Did you try registering the account (not log in) ? And you have access to the "obselete e-mail box" or not ? Or was it just an assumption ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 13:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Seems someone just registered it. Can you ack if the prob is solved now ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 13:16, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Draft policy on religious content[edit]

Hey, JWSchmidt. I've been reading your name a lot on the Disclosures talk page, and I wanted to ask if you'd take a look at a subpolicy I was asked to write - Wikiversity:Draft policy on religious content. There's been something of a debate over whether or not some religions should be disallowed from inclusion @ Wikiversity, and seeing as how I quote you in my counterarguments, I thought you might like to contribute to the discussion (whether pro or contra to my position).


--Opensourcejunkie 15:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your response, and your POV. I replied to your comment on my page (for organization-sake). --Opensourcejunkie
Replied --Opensourcejunkie 08:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


Please don't think I just give these out for anything (this is only my second). However, I am awarding you this Mozilla Barnstar because you've probably done more than a zillion things for Wikiversity over your tenure here, even though you are busy in the real world at the moment. Also I just wanted to say thank you for mentoring me..

mozilla!! barnstar that could be theoretically crafted into something to put on a barn --Remi 07:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hm, the seasons probably do change things too to a certain extent. :-) --Remi 00:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)


Hey! Do you know what is happening with

Sorry, but I am busy in the real world these days. I still have an interest in educational video and it seems like Wikiversity itself could benefit from some easy to digest advertising. Like most things wiki, "Wikiversity the movie" needs some participants. --JWSchmidt 04:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Follow your star[edit]

I liked the follow your star logo movie you did, and in my trial and error learning, I managed to put it on the top of the project I work on Recovery_psychology But what I thought I would do is squeeze an fMRI picture, Maslow's hierarchy pyramid, or just a raw looking brain picture, like a collage of ecelectic psychology images to be squared left and right checkerboard in to my text...I have been browsing the different wiki pages, still haven't figured it out, I hope you don't mind that I consult you for your expertise--recovery psychologist 04:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


I read over your comments on science education, thinking with that in be honest with regards to Naming Conventions (which I need to reread over again, until I start to think that I believe that I have a conception of fathoming the idea of understanding it***please excuse the Monty Python) I think Recovery_Psychology is research but would it also be classified as Protoscience being that it is not yet an established science?--recovery psychologist 04:29, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Structure.. again[edit]

Hi John - there's some discussion on the Colloquium about namespaces and Wikiversity's structure - see here. I thought you might want to give your input. Hope to talk to you sometime soon in any case. Cormaggio talk 16:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Wikimedia Radio ...[edit]

There is a proposal for Wiki-radio (again) n:WN:Radio 20:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Is there a better link?--JWSchmidt 02:15, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes: n:Wikinews:Wikimedia Radio.--Juan 18:17, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

This is now being developed on Meta - m:Wikimedia Radio. Also see Wikiversity:Meetings, which I've just set up. Cormaggio talk 14:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Something to think about (© darklama)[edit]

Darkcode (a.k.a. this guy) brought this idea up on IRC this morning, and it struck me as more your kind of thing than mine: a "Class Clock". This would be a project that would follow class offerings (and attendance?) by colleges and universities semester by semester.

I'm not sure where to start or where to go, but it seems to me that this might be a way to get brick/mortar institutions interested (at least the registrar offices), and could be an interesting research project (tracking class offerings to world events, etc.). Anyway, seems worthy of a summer brainstorm :).

Hope the classes are going well... I miss you! --SB_Johnny | talk 02:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

It would be good to bring this kind of thing up more publicly, i.e. on the Colloquium. We could have a section specifically for proposals, or a whole subpage, as on Wikipedia or Wikinews. Cormaggio talk 14:31, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

James Burke[edit]

Hi John,

I have never heard of him before 5 minutes ago.--Daanschr 17:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

His project seems very interesting. I might be joining it. Here on Wikiversity, i don't see much happening of the things that i like to do. So, i hope to be part of an organization where some kind of momentum is going on.--Daanschr 17:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, coordination could be a good idea. I don't know how active they are. Maybe it only seems impressive on the outside.Daanschr 17:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I took another look at the website and i don't know if i will join it. There is nothing visible. Burke sells his books and asks for money. I think that i will be used for his money making if i join his website.--Daanschr 16:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: High School Biology[edit]

My main goal for the project is self-paced learning, but I am also trying to contribute resources for students and teachers in traditional schools. Any contributions you make will be greatly appreciated. The wikibook also needs a lot work, so help there would be great! Wesley Gray 23:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Try looking at the first lesson and the basic content of the first section wikibook. Lessons are basic and we try not to overwhelm learners with too much information at once. Also try looking at other content in the Secondary Education portal. Hopefully this will allow you to better orient yourself with High School level materials. We can always edit really advanced information out, getting the content there is a little harder. I hope you'll help add some of that content. -Wesley Gray 14:03, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Poor edit summaries[edit]

Please do not write edit summaries such as "returning comment that was deleted by McCormack" because this makes a false statement. I did not intentionally delete anything by you. Something weird happened during an edit conflict. Please do not write my name at all in your edit summaries. --McCormack 17:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I think you need a vacation[edit]

Quote from JWSchmidt to McCormack on IRC: "I think you need a vacation". --McCormack 17:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

email ping[edit]

I sent you an email... :) --Remi 05:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Custodian in beta.wikiversity[edit]

Im rjclaudio from beta.Wikiversity, and a pt-user. As Hillgentleman (a custodian there) sugested me, I start a discussion to name a custodian for in betawikiversity:Talk:Wikiversidade:Projeto#Administrador and the users elected me.

So Im asking you, as a Bureaucrats there, if you can give me the status.

Thanks, Rjclauddio 16:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The project have nowadays only 3 users active, but I send a message to 2 more users that have made a edit in the past 30 days, so its 4 users + me.
I proposed me and other two users, one that is a custodian in wikibooks, and other one that was active in the past but not that much now.
I asked if its necessary to contact every user, even the ones that dont edit for many time, and the others think its not necessary.
The four users voted in me, including the two I suggested.
The discussion about what I have done is in another section of the talk page, if you need I can translate too, but to cite the most important, I restart the discussion about the model to use in wikiversity, how to proceed to import pages from wikibooks, and Im starting to read what we still need to do to move to "pt.wikiversity".
One user is custodian in wikibooks, and he offered his help if I had any questions about the tools.
The discussion didnt have many arguments cause we are a short project so everyone know about the edits of the others and it wasnt necessary to comment (and in pt.wikipedia we are acostumed to simply vote, and only coment if the user want.
If you want any other information Ill translate to you.
Rjclauddio 23:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Rjclauddio 01:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)


Hello! I need adminship on beta.wikiversity for deleting stuff imported to newly-opened projects. Bureaucratship will be also preferable so I can do SUL renames, but I don't persist. I'm Meta bureaucrat and Incubator admin. Thanks in advance — VasilievVV 17:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

John, did you see this proposal to close Beta Wikiversity ? ----Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) PS: Tag a learning project with completion status !! 17:32, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

IRC meeting[edit]

Hi John - just notifying you of a suggested time/date for an IRC meeting about 'Wikiversity learning'. Could you indicate if you would be available, or would prefer a different time/date? Cormaggio talk 14:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi JWS[edit]

Hope you are well. Chrismo 15:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)


Hi! I have a question about categorization. We have both Category:Viruses and Category:Virology with the same content. I think we should use just one (at least in this stage with several pages). The question is, which category should be used, or if one should be a subcat. of another. Computer viruses should go to another category, I think. Category:Virii is fixed now.--Gbaor 11:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for suggestion! Now these categories are in quite logical order Viruses>Virology>Microbiology>Biology :) --Gbaor 04:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for welcoming[edit]

  • I'm mainly at el.Wikiversity, and at el. and en. Wikipedia but I'll do what I can in this too.

--Vchorozopoulos 18:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


  • I am getting the urge to learn Moodle. Where do I start? Robert Elliott 06:17, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • I am also searching for possible ways (free to use software packages) to create learning material for offline use. There are many posibilities on the internet to do it, but there should be also few offline alternatives as well... Any suggestions? Another solution could be to download the ready to use webpages, and distribute them separately... This was just a quick idea, I don't know if (for example) the WV quizzes are functional offline --Gbaor 08:15, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Could you help to make me a course creator or administrator on the Moodle sandbox? Same user name. -- Jtneill - Talk 03:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Biology Portal upgrade[edit]

Hi John, I see there hasn't been a lot of activity in the Portal:Life Sciences talk page for a while so I came straight to you because of your interests and experience here; I hope you don't mind. I just made a complete revamp of School of Medicine in accordance, i think, with community discussions over the last while. I would like to discuss with you the possibility of doing the same with the Life Sciences Portal as I would like to see it not just as a "faculty" for university level courses like mine but it could also serve as a home page for the high school subjects in this area. I want to make it very easy to use and allow it to promote inter-project co-operation between different fields of life sciences and different levels of study too. I would like to know what you make of my suggestion. Thanks Go raibh mile maith agaibh 22:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)