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What's Next[edit source]

Edit this area as a to-do list bulletin board of topics that should be either discussed or implimented on the School's portal.

  • Discuss Site Redesign
While this new enhanced format is quite attractive, at such a stage of progress where much of the initial layout of this school has yet to be fully realized, it makes it quite difficult for an interested party to contribute to this page. Instead of only taking a moment to edit the page, one must search through the code of the wiki to find specifically where they wish to add to, subtract from or alter. If possible, the school should have a draft page that it simply a blueprint for a final page with an impressive layout such as this that will eventually become the Wikiverity School of Law homepage.
  • Separate topics into introductory, intermediate, and advanced.
Many of the main topics already created build upon other areas which are more basic. Such areas such as property, contract, procedure, torts, legal writing, etc. should not be overlooked.
  • Create a topic regarding Law School
include discussion of experiences, concerns, lwa review, moot court, focuses, goals, etc.
  • Provide a section related to pertinent, timely issues
will alter the future for law, such as the development of new areas, problems the law are struggling with, issues of new impression, etc.
  • Implement Priestly 11.
  • Determine how to deal with country specific and jurisdiction specific law.


Subject Areas[edit source]

I am an attorney and would like to participate in building Wikiversity School of Law. I suggest that Internet Access Law be made a discrete subject area of the curriculum. There are numerous fraud, privacy and safety issues that are being addressed in the courts of the United States. The same may be true for other countries where internet use is widespread. As internet access becomes more global, these issues will proliferate and laws will be enacted to address them. User:jstewartJstewartesq 15:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Subject Areas[edit source]

Hi. This is my first real contribution to the project. Hooray! Well, here goes:

From the outset, there needs to be the distinction made between the British Common law system and Civil law systems.

Perhaps we could use Australia's Priestley 11 to decide what subjects should be party of our Law School. The priestley 11 includes:

In addition to these subjects, it is also important that students of law study Jurisprudence, International law, Customary law and the court system. Cheers, Jpe|ob 23:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another one:[edit source]

How about Patent and/or Copyright law? Would it be localized to each country? It makes sense to me to have a lesson on international IP law, but national IP laws are certainly important/broad enough to have courses (lessons?) on. Perhaps int'l law would be a portion of each nat'l course? --AdamG 20:03, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My take on this is to make sure it is known as you are entering the topic which country/jurisdiction is covered. This will prevent any confusion and will also promote creation of brand new pages for different countries and jurisdictions instead of editing existing pages. This is one area that frustrates me now in Wikipedia and I would hate to see it happen here if we can prevent it. What do you think? -Ramjaw 13:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Traffic Law, contracts and more[edit source]

Im interested in traffic law, and some other forms. You can find some course outlines here at the bottom of the page http://www.senecac.on.ca/fulltime/LCA.html http://www.senecac.on.ca/fulltime/CTA.html http://www.senecac.on.ca/fulltime/LCKA.html

Modular Subjects[edit source]

I would think that an approach of modularising subjects would work well instead of a tangled mess?

  • Legal System - How it all works explains basicas of law developes to different systems in different counrtries: includes common law, primary legislation, court system, professions within the system etc...
  • Criminal Law - everything specific to criminal law obviously

Obviously many more modules can be thought of.

Added Jurisprudence[edit source]

I added Jurisprudence as a department area. As soon as exams are over (next two weeks) I will put up some kind of beginner and intermediate lessons for jurisprudence. Any suggestions appreciated. --JHessick 23:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

School page redesign[edit source]

I want to make it look like [1] this. Hopefully I can get this done today. --AdamG 22:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Got the bulk of it done. I'm still going through the images at MediaWiki to find better images, but that can be done incrementally. Have fun.--AdamG 22:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nice job! You can find many nice images and icons at Wikimedia Commons. When using an image from the Commons, you don't have to upload it here, just write its name on the page and it will appear. :) Did you know that the first Serbian constitution was the Constitution of the Medieval Serbian Empire, written on the State Council of Skopje in 1349, during the regime of the Emperor Stefan Dušan? It was one of the oldest constitutions in the world. And the first modern Serbian constitution was brought on the 15th of October, 1835. It was quite democratic for that times, so under the preasure of Russia and Austria, which did not have constitution themselves back then, it was rejected. :) --George D. Bozovic talk 12:15, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah, I meant Commons :P. I guess I just can't keep track of 12-odd projects!--AdamG 13:09, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Love the site redesign but I am concerned about accessability of the average user/contributor. I have a much more difficult time adding simple edits and at this stage I imagine there will be tremendous overhaul of the main page to create a respectable presentation. -Ramjaw 04:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in family law and all the different areas this type of law offers Nancysen13 18:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Legal Writing[edit source]

Since I know little about coding in wiki style or namespaces, etc. I have not done much in the way of contributions; I would however be willing to assist in the legal writing area if no one else is interested. GP 16:54, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Structure[edit source]

Maybe it will be wise to elevate Civil Law, Common Law, International Law, etc to Centers. And within each Center a department of Public and Private Law. Particular national jurisdictions could have departments which would link to general concepts. C.I. 19:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to volunteer[edit source]

I'm a non practicing lawyer from Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Quebec is somewhat unique in the fact that it's the only jurisdiction I'm aware with that exists as a sort of hybrid system, with certain fields of law being covered by the Civil Law tradition, while other matters are dealt with accoring to the Common Law. I posess both a Common Law degree (LLB) as well as a Civil Law Degree (BCL). In fact, McGill took the bold and innovative step in creating what they call a transsystemic program. For example, Civil Law Contracts and Common Law Contracts are taught simultaneously, by the same professor, in the same lecture. Though it would be my pleasure to discuss any legal issue, I'd especially recommend any who may be curious as to the differences between the Common Law and the Civil Law to request any clarification they may require. Loomis 00:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quebec is not that unique; Louisiana has a similar civil law/common law hybrid system. (The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.13.220.58 (talkcontribs) 05:02, 26 November 2007)

link - 'Is an unsecured FTP server publicly accessible?'[edit source]

'Is an unsecured FTP server publicly accessible?' - May be of interest... --Remi 06:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Structure of the School - Jurisdictional[edit source]

Hi,
I have only just started looking at contributing to Wikiversity, particularly as a law student. The issue I have is the somewhat tangled approach currently. Would it not make more sense to organise the school based on jurisdictions, as a starting point? I appreciate this is extremely over-simplistic as, for example, English and Welsh law is intrinsically linked to USA law, EU law and Scots law. If we can get a consensus on this, the next stage would be to plan how it would work, and then put it into place.
The alternative is to have various jurisdictions on the same page, which would be extremely confusing to most users.
Thanks, Jhfireboy (talk) 23:42, 24 January 2013 (UTC).[reply]

I tend to agree with you. Most current and former English Empire nations would have a similar approach to law, where nations like China, Japan, Russia and others, even France and Germany, may view law very differently, if I've understood your idea. --Marshallsumter (talk) 01:01, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. I think that if the School considered each national law (jurisdiction) separately, and has other pages that show the differences, then it would be easier for a student of a particular nation to understand their own law. It also allows them to view laws of other nations separately a be able to distinguish the differences more readily. As you say, the law of France is very different from English law; as the French use a civil law system and the English uses a common law system. 12:37, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Go for it! --Marshallsumter (talk) 15:46, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]